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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    It's amazing how an (R) or (D) can change your perception among people.  
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  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    Those videos will be really tough on him.  There are certainly some complimentary comments of the soviet system both in the USSR and Russia that will hit hard.  I'm surprised no dark money commercials from the center-left have hit in either campaign.  I'd like to see some just to see what they do to his numbers.  Let's have our eyes wide open.  
    Do you think Trump will dare to attack anything that has to do with the Soviet Union Putin is longing to get back to every second of the day?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Any thoughts on that Vice article?
    When he was talking about his plan to help minorities find better jobs? This stuff?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/04/nyregion/new-york-plan-will-aim-to-lift-minority-youth.html
    https://www.bloomberg.org/press/releases/young-mens-initiative-to-aid-young-black-and-latino-males/

    Instead of seizing on some out of context audio, what do you think of what he actually did? By all accounts it looks like spent $130,000,000 of his own money to help those folks succeed in life. This is the guy you are saying is as bad as Donald Trump? You see, this is why your party excels at losing elections.

    Vote Mike or Die. 
    But what do you think about his comments on the video we can all watch? Do you agree with them? What context are we missing? Is what he said ok as long as it is accompanied by giving away money?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    Those videos will be really tough on him.  There are certainly some complimentary comments of the soviet system both in the USSR and Russia that will hit hard.  I'm surprised no dark money commercials from the center-left have hit in either campaign.  I'd like to see some just to see what they do to his numbers.  Let's have our eyes wide open.  
    Do you think Trump will dare to attack anything that has to do with the Soviet Union Putin is longing to get back to every second of the day?
    Yes, all day every day.  Russia isn't the Soviet Union.  They are a corrupt oligarchy.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    Those videos will be really tough on him.  There are certainly some complimentary comments of the soviet system both in the USSR and Russia that will hit hard.  I'm surprised no dark money commercials from the center-left have hit in either campaign.  I'd like to see some just to see what they do to his numbers.  Let's have our eyes wide open.  
    Do you think Trump will dare to attack anything that has to do with the Soviet Union Putin is longing to get back to every second of the day?
    Yes, all day every day.  Russia isn't the Soviet Union.  They are a corrupt oligarchy.  
    Lol. Okey. He had to even defend Moscow in the Fox interview when at the same time trying to attack Sanders for going there once. 

    I doubt he would dare to go in on criticising anything connected to Putin. And that includes Sanders saying they had clean subways in the 80s.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    Those videos will be really tough on him.  There are certainly some complimentary comments of the soviet system both in the USSR and Russia that will hit hard.  I'm surprised no dark money commercials from the center-left have hit in either campaign.  I'd like to see some just to see what they do to his numbers.  Let's have our eyes wide open.  
    Do you think Trump will dare to attack anything that has to do with the Soviet Union Putin is longing to get back to every second of the day?
    Yes, all day every day.  Russia isn't the Soviet Union.  They are a corrupt oligarchy.  
    Lol. Okey. He had to even defend Moscow in the Fox interview when at the same time trying to attack Sanders for going there once. 

    I doubt he would dare to go in on criticising anything connected to Putin. And that includes Sanders saying they had clean subways in the 80s.
    It's not about Putin, it's about the economic system.  Trust all of us Americans on this.  Bernie is going to get hammered with that label all day and all night.  Remember that Trump's only 'success' as it were, is the economy.  He would love to play compare and contrast with a socialist system.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    Those videos will be really tough on him.  There are certainly some complimentary comments of the soviet system both in the USSR and Russia that will hit hard.  I'm surprised no dark money commercials from the center-left have hit in either campaign.  I'd like to see some just to see what they do to his numbers.  Let's have our eyes wide open.  
    Do you think Trump will dare to attack anything that has to do with the Soviet Union Putin is longing to get back to every second of the day?
    Yes, all day every day.  Russia isn't the Soviet Union.  They are a corrupt oligarchy.  
    Lol. Okey. He had to even defend Moscow in the Fox interview when at the same time trying to attack Sanders for going there once. 

    I doubt he would dare to go in on criticising anything connected to Putin. And that includes Sanders saying they had clean subways in the 80s.
    It's not about Putin, it's about the economic system.  Trust all of us Americans on this.  Bernie is going to get hammered with that label all day and all night.  Remember that Trump's only 'success' as it were, is the economy.  He would love to play compare and contrast with a socialist system.  
    I am not saying he will not be attacked. 

    I just think Trump will have problems doing any "vicious" attacks about Sanders in connection to Russia/Soviet Union. Like I happen to believe the Fox News interview points to. I obviously know Bernie will be attacked for being a GOD  DAMN SOVIET UNION LOVING COMMIE by all Repubs and Fox News:es in the world. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    you should rewatch those videos....what I'm hearing is that they aren't as bad as they are made out to be
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  • mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    you should rewatch those videos....what I'm hearing is that they aren't as bad as they are made out to be
    How will he have the time to watch COUNTLESS OF HOURS of this?

    Are we talking millions of hours of Bernie just praising the Soviet Union?

    HOW MANY TAPES ARE THERE?! One tape is what 120-240 minutes or something? HOW MANY TAPES DOES COUNTLESS OF HOURS MEAN?!!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    Those videos will be really tough on him.  There are certainly some complimentary comments of the soviet system both in the USSR and Russia that will hit hard.  I'm surprised no dark money commercials from the center-left have hit in either campaign.  I'd like to see some just to see what they do to his numbers.  Let's have our eyes wide open.  
    They're gonna be tough on all of us as the republicans will, likely, successful brand anyone who votes for him a communist. 

    Bernie getting the nomination is worst case scenario. Trump is salivating over the thought of running against him. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    you should rewatch those videos....what I'm hearing is that they aren't as bad as they are made out to be
    How will he have the time to watch COUNTLESS OF HOURS of this?

    Are we talking millions of hours of Bernie just praising the Soviet Union?

    HOW MANY TAPES ARE THERE?! One tape is what 120-240 minutes or something? HOW MANY TAPES DOES COUNTLESS OF HOURS MEAN?!!
    You only need one 15 second clip to paint the portrait.  Plus, he's a self-described socialist, so why wouldn't a clip where he praises USSR, Cuba (even if out of context or disingenuous) resonate with independents?  When you call yourself something, then a clip reinforcing it is going to be compelling. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited February 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    you should rewatch those videos....what I'm hearing is that they aren't as bad as they are made out to be
    How will he have the time to watch COUNTLESS OF HOURS of this?

    Are we talking millions of hours of Bernie just praising the Soviet Union?

    HOW MANY TAPES ARE THERE?! One tape is what 120-240 minutes or something? HOW MANY TAPES DOES COUNTLESS OF HOURS MEAN?!!
    You only need one 15 second clip to paint the portrait.  Plus, he's a self-described socialist, so why wouldn't a clip where he praises USSR, Cuba (even if out of context or disingenuous) resonate with independents?  When you call yourself something, then a clip reinforcing it is going to be compelling. 
    There is a funny joke here to be made. Not sure if it should be just posting "1980s?" or posting "I don't think it's right, but I also don't think what someone said in 1988 is reflective of who they are as a person today.  I weigh what someone says today much more heavily than what they said 30 years ago. "

    :P

    I get what you are saying

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Well, Trump being able to attack Bloomberg from the left in the race and standing up for workers rights and minorities rights against Bloomberg will really help you.

    Do you have any receipts of this claim of the countless hours of video of Bernie professing his love for the soviet union? Or did the Fox News morning show tell you that will happen?
    haha...oh, my little Swedish chef. The videos are out there. They are plentiful. Google them...or not, as they will be played ad nauseam in the summer/fall, should the democrats nominate that guy. 

    The fact that you don't know about them speaks to how poorly Bernie has been vetted .
    you should rewatch those videos....what I'm hearing is that they aren't as bad as they are made out to be
    How will he have the time to watch COUNTLESS OF HOURS of this?

    Are we talking millions of hours of Bernie just praising the Soviet Union?

    HOW MANY TAPES ARE THERE?! One tape is what 120-240 minutes or something? HOW MANY TAPES DOES COUNTLESS OF HOURS MEAN?!!
    You only need one 15 second clip to paint the portrait.  Plus, he's a self-described socialist, so why wouldn't a clip where he praises USSR, Cuba (even if out of context or disingenuous) resonate with independents?  When you call yourself something, then a clip reinforcing it is going to be compelling. 
    There is a funny joke here to be made. Not sure if it should be just posting "1980s?" or posting "I don't think it's right, but I also don't think what someone said in 1988 is reflective of who they are as a person today.  I weigh what someone says today much more heavily than what they said 30 years ago. "

    :P

    I get what you are saying

    Listen, I know that.  But...I'm not the person trying to be convinced.  I don't think he's a communist nor do I think he romanticizes the USSR.  He's further left than me, but I'm talking about what I think will happen.  And yes I know you know that.  The one policy that I really don't like, which ironically would help me out personally the most, is the waiving of student debts and free college.  I think that's a terrible idea, much worse than M4A.  And you'll notice that I've never taken real shots at Bernie, only his supporters.  Nor have I said that I wouldn't vote for him.  I would.  I just don't want to be in that position though, plus I do think he'll lose.  I hope I'm wrong about that.  
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:

    1990?
    Yes. Is there a statute of limitations?
    I think there should be a recognition of male chauvinism that was rampant, particularly in NY financial culture during that time, and not weigh on it too much.  I'm sure you said some things in the 80's and 90's that if published, might not reflect well on you today.  I know that's true for me. 
    Doubt Bernie was a "male chauvinist" telling women things like the quoted in 1990.
    No... he was just professing his love for the Soviet Union on countless hours of video that the republicans will play on an endless loop from the moment he wins the nomination all the way up to the moment he ensures Trump gets another four years in office, thus ensuring the end of this democracy.

    Vote for Mike or Die. 
    Any thoughts on that Vice article?
    When he was talking about his plan to help minorities find better jobs? This stuff?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/04/nyregion/new-york-plan-will-aim-to-lift-minority-youth.html
    https://www.bloomberg.org/press/releases/young-mens-initiative-to-aid-young-black-and-latino-males/

    Instead of seizing on some out of context audio, what do you think of what he actually did? By all accounts it looks like spent $130,000,000 of his own money to help those folks succeed in life. This is the guy you are saying is as bad as Donald Trump? You see, this is why your party excels at losing elections.

    Vote Mike or Die. 
    But what do you think about his comments on the video we can all watch? Do you agree with them? What context are we missing? Is what he said ok as long as it is accompanied by giving away money?
    Call me old fashioned but I put more stock in what he's actually doing for these folks, than a slip of the tongue.

    They don't look great without any context. But if one takes literally a second to click on those links, that are actually in the Vice article, they will see that what he's talking about is actually a great things for those kids. 

    So again, you guys are trying to scare people into believing he's the same as Donald Trump based on some out of context clips....or based on just the headline of an article or something....yet the actual article shows that the man is spending hundreds of millions of his own money to help these disadvantage kids get by in life. Donald Trump has literally never thought of doing such a thing (and doesn't have the money lying around to do it anyway). 


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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    To put a bow on it, here is the "slip of the tongue" that can be handwaved away if you're throwing money at people:




  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    So in full context, considering he's funding programs to help them, is it racist?  There's certainly no argument that minorities are over represented in jails and under represented in the productive work force.  Is that racist to point out if you are contributing millions of your own money to try to solve that problem?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Further, if he was truly racist then presumably he would think blacks and hispanics are predisposed to a life of crime or vagrancy.  If that were the case, why would he put millions to work to address it?
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    mrussel1 said:
    So in full context, considering he's funding programs to help them, is it racist?  There's certainly no argument that minorities are over represented in jails and under represented in the productive work force.  Is that racist to point out if you are contributing millions of your own money to try to solve that problem?
    If we can't agree that the last paragraph is racist then I don't know what is. This is also the same guy who said they were overpolicing whites and underpolicing minorities in regards to stop-and-frisk. You then read his other quotes through that lens.
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