Not happy that there is an opening act on this first NA leg

theebradness

SandyRavage said:

theebradness said:

SandyRavage said:

the only shows this would effect would be the first couple. 

Once the production team and bands are on the same page, it will work like clockwork. You cant tell me PJ is touring for a new album and NOT going to be playing 3 hour shows. 

This is a classic case of bitching before we even see how it works out. 

I didn't think I sounded bitchy. I even had a classic LOL in the original post.

As far as im concerned, something made you type this out and start a new thread on it instead of just going to the Pluralone thread. 

I didn't scour the forum before posting. I had a thought, I posted it.

semi gutted

foodboy

for those who are complaining about this opening act i suggest those that like to roll one up do so and give this guy a good listen. you will be pleasantly surprised.

SandyRavage

theebradness said:

SandyRavage said:

theebradness said:

SandyRavage said:

the only shows this would effect would be the first couple. 

Once the production team and bands are on the same page, it will work like clockwork. You cant tell me PJ is touring for a new album and NOT going to be playing 3 hour shows. 

This is a classic case of bitching before we even see how it works out. 

I didn't think I sounded bitchy. I even had a classic LOL in the original post.

As far as im concerned, something made you type this out and start a new thread on it instead of just going to the Pluralone thread. 

I didn't scour the forum before posting. I had a thought, I posted it.

semi gutted

ohhhh you're trolling. I get it now.  

jimjam1982

CROJAM95 said:

id rather have a tight 2:15to 2:30 then a sloppy 3 hour set anyday

Disagree. I'm not musically talented. More is better. I dont know what "sloppy" is.

They fucked up 2 in Seattle in 2018. RVM and Go. Seattle 2 was like 3h 36m or something.

Both times I saw ed in 2019 he was so high he fucked up the lyrics to I Am Mine. 

They make sloppy fun.

evenflow82

PJ is sloppy no matter whether the show is over three hours or two and a half hours.  The question is how much is forgivable to you and how much isn't. 

Deadman

I have checked out Pluralone and am quite excited about PJ bringing back opening bands.  Fills the normal time when they aren't playing and an opener could be playing.  It basically means more Rock.

PB11041

CROJAM95

stadium shows in particular, yea I had fun at all 7 or 8 ive done, but doesn't feel tight

Philly Night 3 (long too) killed night 4.....it was overkill

MickeyMouse

Did everyone forget that PJ used to tour all the time with openers and the main set length never suffered?

ShanKathy

Happy to have the opportunity to hear Pluralone on this tour as I'm not sure he would ever play in Edmonton. Listened to his interview with Marc Maron on the WTF podcast and he has played with a lot of amazing artists. Obviously a very talented guy.

LYacky

SandyRavage said:

theebradness said:

SandyRavage said:

theebradness said:

SandyRavage said:

the only shows this would effect would be the first couple. 

Once the production team and bands are on the same page, it will work like clockwork. You cant tell me PJ is touring for a new album and NOT going to be playing 3 hour shows. 

This is a classic case of bitching before we even see how it works out. 

I didn't think I sounded bitchy. I even had a classic LOL in the original post.

As far as im concerned, something made you type this out and start a new thread on it instead of just going to the Pluralone thread. 

I didn't scour the forum before posting. I had a thought, I posted it.

semi gutted

ohhhh you're trolling. I get it now.  

I think "trolling" is a bit harsh. I don't think there's anything wrong with his post. As I said above I'm all for supporting & listening to new bands too, just not at the expense of PJ stage time. I'm sure it'll be fine tho. 

Zod

MickeyMouse said:

Did everyone forget that PJ used to tour all the time with openers and the main set length never suffered?

Sort of.  I remember pre-2013 tours having openers, but set times seemed to vary between 2 hours and 2h40m.     I felt if the band played 2 hours they were doing their minimum (ahem Seattle 09).  If they played over 2.5 hours they were really into it.   3 hour shows prior to 2013 were a rarity.  If you got one, it was definitely special.

2013 upped the bar.  Almost every show was 3 hours, and some of them towards the end got closer to 3.5 hours (Vancouver/Seattle).   It was amazing to get that every night.  The problem is you get use to it.   They raise their own bar.  To go back from 3 hour+ shows to 2 hour+ shows will be tough.  Just because we got that taste.

The good news is that it's possible the shows continue to be 3 hours.   Mudhoney opened those final dates of the 2013 tour and PJ still went the distance.   Shows end past midnight, which means (at least in Vancouver) they paid a fine for having done so.    Maybe $5 of every ticket should to go to the "pay the fine for breaking curfew fund"

elcazador83

Is Ed going to come out before the openers and play like he did back in the day?

PB11041

goldrush

Be glad there is a tour for you to see. It’s been 6 years since they played in Australia

PB11041

goldrush said:

Be glad there is a tour for you to see. It’s been 6 years since they played in Australia

pbultimate

Remove Porch, Evenflow and RVM. Just made up 27 mins. 

unforgiven

I've never thought a show suffers from having a support act, I've seen PJ play 3 hour festival sets so doubt that a support act will make much difference!

SandyRavage

pbultimate said:

Remove Porch, Evenflow and RVM. Just made up 27 mins. 

Facts. or put them on a rotation

mpedone

MickeyMouse said:

Did everyone forget that PJ used to tour all the time with openers and the main set length never suffered?

I recall a show in 2003 where they had TWO openers. It was a little weird; the first band just played acoustic versions of PJ songs before Sleater-Kinney played. Then, Eddie brought them all out for Fortunate Son and RITFW.