The coronavirus

Spunkie

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mrussel1

CM189191 said:

23scidoo said:

https://youtu.be/wot1UdBLDhs

'Bats found in lab that was established to research viruses found in bats'

In other news, water is still wet
And conservatives still lack critical thinking skills

Fucking perfect. 

gvn2fly1421

CM189191 said:

23scidoo said:

https://youtu.be/wot1UdBLDhs

'Bats found in lab that was established to research viruses found in bats'

In other news, water is still wet
And conservatives still lack critical thinking skills

HughFreakingDillon said:

LMAO ^^^^

mrussel1 said:

CM189191 said:

23scidoo said:

https://youtu.be/wot1UdBLDhs

'Bats found in lab that was established to research viruses found in bats'

In other news, water is still wet
And conservatives still lack critical thinking skills

Fucking perfect. 

• NEWS
• 02 December 2020

Meet the scientists investigating the origins of the COVID pandemic

Ten researchers with expertise in virology, public health and animals will seek to answer this key question.

"Also on the team is Peter Daszak, president of the non-profit research organization Ecohealth Alliance in New York City, who has spent more than a decade studying coronaviruses. He has worked closely with the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) to test bats for coronaviruses with the potential to spill over into people.

“It is an honour to be part of this team,” says Daszak. “There hasn’t been a pandemic on this scale since the 1918 flu, and we’re still close enough to the origin to really find out more details about where it has come from.”"

Full article here...  https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03402-1

WHO inspector's denial of bats in Wuhan lab contradicted by facts

Chinese scientists describe capturing dangerous live bats to be transported back to Wuhan lab

2021/02/18 18:29

"Researchers have uncovered accounts from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) scientists and applications for patents for bat breeding that refute World Health Organization (WHO) inspector Peter Daszak's claims that the lab does not house live bats captured in the wild.

"On Dec. 10 of last year, the Independent published an article alleging that the U.S. National Institutes of Health provided US$3.7 million in funding to the WIV to study bats carrying viruses similar to SARS in Yunnan Province. The article reported that WIV scientists captured the bats and sent them to the Wuhan lab for analysis.

That same day, Daszak took umbrage with the claim that the bats had been captured and transported to the WIV and posted a tweet, in which he wrote "No BATS were 'sent to Wuhan lab for genetic analyses of viruses collected in the field.'" He then added, "That's not how this science works. We collect bat samples, send them to the lab. We RELEASE bats where we catch them!""

Full article here... https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4130431

Glad to see most here have their head still firmly placed in the sand...  Y'all seen the Fauci emails yet or nah?

HughFreakingDillon

so we're not surprised that live bats are in the lab, you confirm live bats are in the lab, and our heads are in the sand. 

interesting deduction. 

mrussel1

Why do you think I believe China or the WHO?  It would surprise little to non at all if there were bats at the lab.  But because I think China is full of shit doesn't mean I think the COVID is a hoax or the vaccine will kill or that herd immunity was the way to go, like your ass does. 

Spunkie

LET 1/550 = 0.00181818181 = DEATH RATE and there are 7B people on planet. IF all had same rate of infection and health care, including vaccinations we would expect 12,727,272.72 deaths worldwide?



This is how many are reported worldwide.



Is my math and logic correct?

Merkin Baller

If only Fauci was more forthcoming about the possible origins of the virus.......  

HughFreakingDillon

#faucghazi

mrussel1

tish said:

LET 1/550 = 0.00181818181 = DEATH RATE and there are 7B people on planet. IF all had same rate of infection and health care, including vaccinations we would expect 12,727,272.72 deaths worldwide?



This is how many are reported worldwide.



Is my math and logic correct?

I think the trouble with the logic is that it uses US numbers and extrapolates from there.  Our health care is first world.  When I have calculated this (before the vaccine), I was using worldwide infection and fatality rates.  

Spunkie

I was thinking that too. So I made death rate based on the latter, worldwide case and death info and it made me think US death rates are way too high. Even with under reporting perhaps. Big discrepancy either way. Error must also be in assuming variables are constant.

mrussel1

tish said:

I was thinking that too. So I made death rate based on the latter, worldwide case and death info and it made me think US death rates are way too high. Even with under reporting perhaps. Big discrepancy either way. Error must also be in assuming variables are constant.

The death rate (again from a few months ago) was essentially 1% of confirmed cases.  

Spunkie

Either way: which death rates seems more true? The one in your country or the worldwide data?

Spunkie

mrussel1 said:

tish said:

I was thinking that too. So I made death rate based on the latter, worldwide case and death info and it made me think US death rates are way too high. Even with under reporting perhaps. Big discrepancy either way. Error must also be in assuming variables are constant.

The death rate (again from a few months ago) was essentially 1% of confirmed cases.  

Or almost 1 out of 2000 of US population?

* and this rate should be more in countries with worse health care?

mrussel1

tish said:

Either way: which death rates seems more true? The one in your country or the worldwide data?

Tell me a bit more what you are trying to declare/determine?

Spunkie

I'm trying to make sense of the new CNN headline. It doesn't seem to add up with other data. Made me curious. No declarations or determinations, just wonder what others think.

Spunkie

If 1% of confirmed cases in US die, and 1 out of 2000 US population die, how many infected?

Meltdown99

tish said:

mrussel1 said:

tish said:

I was thinking that too. So I made death rate based on the latter, worldwide case and death info and it made me think US death rates are way too high. Even with under reporting perhaps. Big discrepancy either way. Error must also be in assuming variables are constant.

The death rate (again from a few months ago) was essentially 1% of confirmed cases.  

Or almost 1 out of 2000 of US population?

* and this rate should be more in countries with worse health care?

Their lack of healthcare for poor people likely contributed to untold amounts of sickness and death...here in Canada we don't have to think twice about whether we can get healthcare treatment...we get treatment no matter the income level...

Spunkie

Hmm.. so that variable is a positive here, but worldwide numbers don't account. Maybe it's a variant thing and death rates need to depend in that?  I'm done thinking on this... brain power needed elsewhere.

mrussel1

tish said:

I'm trying to make sense of the new CNN headline. It doesn't seem to add up with other data. Made me curious. No declarations or determinations, just wonder what others think.

Oh I see.  Well yeah I think your calculations are right, but my guess is the worldwide number would be understated using that logic since access to the vaccine, healthcare, etc. are not constant. 

Spunkie

Yah... ^ sometimes I wonder if Trumps strategy? Is at least helpful in gainingmmunity by way of infection before deadlier variant (trying to see positive in grave situation). That could be completely erroneous... and now 1 hour left of work before ten week brain break!