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mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:I get private companies doing that. But the government?
and as to your last statement? I can guarantee there are going to be people that got it in good faith that are pissed they don't get the "reward", and will hesitate the next time around.
I'm not saying it won't lead to increase in vaccinations. I'm more worried about long term implications I've already mentioned.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:cincybearcat said:mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:US is 50% adult fully vaxed. That feels pretty solid. I really like the 5 lottery drawings that Ohio is offering, a million each to induce vaxes. Really great idea by a Republican Gov that has managed the pandemic very well. I think the under 18 population vax levels will be very high. There's a strange cultural thing happening where teens are pressuring each other to get it done and it's a point of pride. Good for them.ohio also is offering 5 full ride scholarships along with mil drawings
while I’m registered for it, I’m not a fan of the $1 million give away.
I am super in support of the scholarship giveaway. Personally think they should have used the $5 million from the other lottery to pay for even more scholarships.hippiemom = goodness0 -
As someone who works in health care and sees how much insurance companies charge/spend/reimburse and many times waste, in my opinion, on some things:
5 million dollars and full ride college scholarships to get people to get vaccinated for the worst pandemic in 100 years is arguably the best use of government money I have ever witnessed
I know they are different entities, but if the vaccination rate spikes up even a few % points because people want a shot at a million bucks, it’s absolutely worth it2010: Cleveland
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Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:I really like the 5 lottery drawings that Ohio is offering, a million each to induce vaxes.
A MILLION DOLLARS??? For five people who don't give a fuck about their own health enough to protect it? No rewards for all of us who just got the vaccine without complaining about it of course.
I'm of the belief that to hell with people that don't want to get the vaccine. They can catch the virus and deal with it. Or maybe they won't catch the virus, which would be even better. But if the vaccine doesn't stop the spread of the virus, why are we begging people to get the vaccine? To protect themselves? Fuck 'em.
But even if I supported incentives (which isn't the worst idea), A MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS? A million dollars. I can't believe anybody would support this. I hope the five people that win the million are MAGA-flag waving idiots that held out on getting the vaccine because Biden wanted them to get it, were enticed by this stupid lottery that you really like, and then rub it in all our faces that they got rich doing the exact same thing millions of us already did.
I was vaccinated when it got approved on December 16th and I was able to enter to win (since My license and permanent residence is still Ohio)
Lets say that it leads to a 10% increase in vaccinations in Ohio, taking it from 50 to 60% or whatever the number is. The winner is 80% likely to have gotten the vaccine before this was announced, and it will end up being a “thank you for getting vaccinated” reward rather than that money going to someone who needed To be incentivized.It’s genius, really.Post edited by Weston1283 on2010: Cleveland
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Weston1283 said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:I really like the 5 lottery drawings that Ohio is offering, a million each to induce vaxes.
A MILLION DOLLARS??? For five people who don't give a fuck about their own health enough to protect it? No rewards for all of us who just got the vaccine without complaining about it of course.
I'm of the belief that to hell with people that don't want to get the vaccine. They can catch the virus and deal with it. Or maybe they won't catch the virus, which would be even better. But if the vaccine doesn't stop the spread of the virus, why are we begging people to get the vaccine? To protect themselves? Fuck 'em.
But even if I supported incentives (which isn't the worst idea), A MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS? A million dollars. I can't believe anybody would support this. I hope the five people that win the million are MAGA-flag waving idiots that held out on getting the vaccine because Biden wanted them to get it, were enticed by this stupid lottery that you really like, and then rub it in all our faces that they got rich doing the exact same thing millions of us already did.
I was vaccinated when it got approved on December 16th and I was able to enter to win (since My license and permanent residence is still Ohio)
Lets say that it leads to a 10% increase in vaccinations in Ohio, taking it from 50 to 60% or whatever the number is. The winner is 80% likely to have gotten the vaccine before this was announced, and it will end up being a “thank you for getting vaccinated” reward rather than that money going to someone who needed To be incentivized.It’s genius, really.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I'll say it again for those in the back: IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COST TO GOVERNMENT. it's about the precedent and message it sends.
I believe in natural consequences: you get vaxxed? you get a passport and can do shit. don't get vaxxed? you can't.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
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HughFreakingDillon said:I'll say it again for those in the back: IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COST TO GOVERNMENT. it's about the precedent and message it sends.
I believe in natural consequences: you get vaxxed? you get a passport and can do shit. don't get vaxxed? you can't.0 -
mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:I'll say it again for those in the back: IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COST TO GOVERNMENT. it's about the precedent and message it sends.
I believe in natural consequences: you get vaxxed? you get a passport and can do shit. don't get vaxxed? you can't.When the next once in a century pandemic hits in 100 years, no ones going to remember the Ohio vaccine lottery2010: Cleveland
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U.S. border to re-open June 22
Unilateral move by the U.S. government
https://www.allpointbulletin.com/stories/us-border-to-re-open-june-22,16610
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Meltdown99 said:
U.S. border to re-open June 22
Unilateral move by the U.S. government
https://www.allpointbulletin.com/stories/us-border-to-re-open-june-22,166100 -
it doesn't have to be a pandemic. it can be any public health issue. you start bribing people to be healthy and care for their fellow human being, you run the risk of low uptake if you don't offer it next time.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Mike DeWine Scholarships Education Government and politics Ohio Coronavirus pandemic Coronavirus vaccine Ohio to announce 1st winners of Vax-a-Million lottery By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS 12 mins ago COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The names of two lucky Ohioans, an adult and a child, will be announced Wednesday night as the first winners of the state's Vax-a-Million incentive prizes which include $1 million for those 18 and older and a full-ride college scholarship for teens. Republican Gov. Mike DeWine announced the program May 12 to boost lagging vaccination rates. More than 2.7 million adults registered for the money prize and more than 100,000 children ages 12 to 17 entered for the scholarship, which includes tuition, room and board, and books. Four more winners of the $1 million and a college scholarship will be announced each Wednesday for the next four weeks. The Ohio Lottery conducted the first drawing Monday afternoon at its draw studio in Cleveland using a random number generator to pick the winners ahead of time, and then confirmed the eligibility of the ultimate winner. Participants must register to enter by phone or via the Vax-a-Million website. Teens can register themselves, but parents or legal guardians must verify their eligibility. The names of entrants who don't win will be carried over week to week. “I know that some may say, ‘DeWine, you’re crazy! This million-dollar drawing idea of yours is a waste of money,’” the governor said when he announced the incentive. But with the vaccine now readily available, the real waste, “is a life lost to COVID-19,” the governor said. The concept seemed to work, at least initially. The number of people in Ohio age 16 and older who received their initial COVID-19 vaccine jumped 33% in the week after the state announced its million-dollar incentive lottery, according to an Associated Press analysis. But the same review also found that vaccination rates are still well below figures from earlier in April and March. More than 5.2 million people in Ohio had at least started the vaccination process as of Monday, or about 45% of the state. About 4.6 million people are done getting vaccinated, or 39% of the state. Nationally, more than 165 million Americans have started the vaccination process, or about nearly 50% of the population. More than 131 million are fully vaccinated, or nearly 40%. Vax-a-Million is open to permanent Ohio residents who have received either the one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine or their first part of the two-dose Pfizer or Moderna vaccination. DeWine’s proposal inspired similar vaccine-incentive lotteries in Colorado, Maryland, New York state and Oregon. In Colorado, Democratic Gov. Jared Polis says the state will have a weekly lottery for five residents to win $1 million Tuesday to incentive COVID-19 vaccinations. Colorado is setting aside $5 million of federal coronavirus relief funds that would have gone toward vaccine advertising for five residents to win $1 million each. ___ Follow AP’s coverage of the pandemic at https://apnews.com/hub/coronavirus-pandemic and https://apnews.com/UnderstandingtheOutbreak.
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i'm glad it works, but man, it's so odd to me that people need an incentive to be kind to others and be responsible with their own health.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:i'm glad it works, but man, it's so odd to me that people need an incentive to be kind to others and be responsible with their own health.2010: Cleveland
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2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
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2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
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2010: Cleveland
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
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In the first Ohio Vax-a-Million drawings, Abbigail Bugenske of Silverton in Hamilton County won a $1 million cash prize and Joseph Costello of Englewood in Montgomery County will be given a full-ride college scholarship, it was announced Wednesday.
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PJNB said:Meltdown99 said:
U.S. border to re-open June 22
Unilateral move by the U.S. government
https://www.allpointbulletin.com/stories/us-border-to-re-open-june-22,16610
Sure they can. All that the US has control over is whether they allow people into their country across the land border, so it seems that they are deciding to do so. Canada has control over whether they allow people across the land border into Canada, which so far they have declined to do except for Canadian citizens, who have a right to return across the border though are expected to quarantine upon arrival. So it seems that if this unilateral move goes ahead Canadians will be able to cross the land border into the US to vacation, shop, what have you, and then can return to Canada and be required to quarantine. Americans won't be able to cross the border into Canada except for the current exemptions, which include traveling to Alaska plus essential travel.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
oftenreading said:PJNB said:Meltdown99 said:
U.S. border to re-open June 22
Unilateral move by the U.S. government
https://www.allpointbulletin.com/stories/us-border-to-re-open-june-22,16610
Sure they can. All that the US has control over is whether they allow people into their country across the land border, so it seems that they are deciding to do so. Canada has control over whether they allow people across the land border into Canada, which so far they have declined to do except for Canadian citizens, who have a right to return across the border though are expected to quarantine upon arrival. So it seems that if this unilateral move goes ahead Canadians will be able to cross the land border into the US to vacation, shop, what have you, and then can return to Canada and be required to quarantine. Americans won't be able to cross the border into Canada except for the current exemptions, which include traveling to Alaska plus essential travel.0
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