The coronavirus

Meltdown99

Ontario enters another mock down in a day or so.  The chief medical officer of health said “the  3rd wave is being driven from schools”...but they stay open in the mock down...fatty Ford logic.  Ontario has the most incompetent politicians anywhere...

cblock4life

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-moderna-pfizer-vaccine-side-effects-age-sex-dose-2021-3

HughFreakingDillon

mcgruff10 said:

Two weeks ago today I got my second pfizer shot; I'm going out and partying tonight! 

or better yet, wear you mask the whole time. you can just soak a tampon in vodka and then, BAM, you're golden. 

from what I hear. 

lastexitlondon

mcgruff10 said:

Two weeks ago today I got my second pfizer shot; I'm going out and partying tonight! 

Raise a cannoli for me mcgruff

GlowGirl

cblock4life said:

GlowGirl said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

Just a heads up - had my first moderna vaccine on Monday and was told that because I had covid previously that my reaction to the vaccine would be much worse the first shot.  Well, if you get the shot and get really sick and ever wondered whether you ever had covid but didn’t get tested, then you probably did based on an “evil” response.  I felt like the exorcist! But it’s going away and nowhere near as bad as covid was. So being honest, it was rough but they tell me it means it’s working. I guess ripping your guts out ends up being a good thing!  Seriously though, get vaccinated, please.

Data suggests that those who did have a previous covid infection may have stronger side effects to being vaccinated, though not in all cases, but there isn’t data for the converse  - that is, it isn’t necessarily the case that severe side effects mean a previous infection. 

Hmmm...was just reading that they’re debating whether people who already had covid should only receive one shot. Funny how countries see things so differently. 

I don’t think I’m understanding you. Those are two quite separate issues  

Seems like the US is recognizing the extreme response that post covid patients are all having therefore possibly recommending only one dose because the abundance of antibodies has shown to be so much more then they could have imagined, therefore causes severe reaction to the post covid recipient of the vaccine.  Horrible reaction = probable post covid. I originally stated probably and did so again until fully examined. 

It was a nice way of saying your further explanation was not necessary since I said “probably” in my original post. I trust that the majority of posters fully understand what people are saying because they make sure to read each word then reread. I made that mistake a few days ago and posted something exactly that was literally just posted so I apologized for not taking the time to properly read the comment(s).  I just notice certain members feel it’s necessary to further explain every post where I believe we’re all intelligent enough to understand and that if we don’t then we’ll ask 

I see what you're saying but still disagree with your interpretation. The data doesn't say that a severe reaction means probable prior covid infection, it just means it's more likely - for instance, about 25% of those with a prior infection got chills and muscle aches with the first shot, while 10-14% of those who are seronegative (i.e. have not had prior infection) got chills and muscle aches.

And yes, there is discussion about those who have had prior infection only needing one immunization. 

I had my first Covid shot yesterday and already had Covid a year ago. No muscle aches but I did wake up in the middle of the night with a 99.9 temperature. My normal temp is 97.2. So I did feel slight chills and then Tylenol made me sweat. Interestingly, this was around the same temperature I had for a day or two when I had Covid. I wonder if I will have any side effects from the second shot. 

Glad you’re not too sick...which vaccine did you have? 

Thanks. I had the Moderna shot. I pretty much feel back to normal now - just a slight headache. But still taking it easy for the rest of the day.

oftenreading

GlowGirl said:

cblock4life said:

GlowGirl said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

Just a heads up - had my first moderna vaccine on Monday and was told that because I had covid previously that my reaction to the vaccine would be much worse the first shot.  Well, if you get the shot and get really sick and ever wondered whether you ever had covid but didn’t get tested, then you probably did based on an “evil” response.  I felt like the exorcist! But it’s going away and nowhere near as bad as covid was. So being honest, it was rough but they tell me it means it’s working. I guess ripping your guts out ends up being a good thing!  Seriously though, get vaccinated, please.

Data suggests that those who did have a previous covid infection may have stronger side effects to being vaccinated, though not in all cases, but there isn’t data for the converse  - that is, it isn’t necessarily the case that severe side effects mean a previous infection. 

Hmmm...was just reading that they’re debating whether people who already had covid should only receive one shot. Funny how countries see things so differently. 

I don’t think I’m understanding you. Those are two quite separate issues  

Seems like the US is recognizing the extreme response that post covid patients are all having therefore possibly recommending only one dose because the abundance of antibodies has shown to be so much more then they could have imagined, therefore causes severe reaction to the post covid recipient of the vaccine.  Horrible reaction = probable post covid. I originally stated probably and did so again until fully examined. 

It was a nice way of saying your further explanation was not necessary since I said “probably” in my original post. I trust that the majority of posters fully understand what people are saying because they make sure to read each word then reread. I made that mistake a few days ago and posted something exactly that was literally just posted so I apologized for not taking the time to properly read the comment(s).  I just notice certain members feel it’s necessary to further explain every post where I believe we’re all intelligent enough to understand and that if we don’t then we’ll ask 

I see what you're saying but still disagree with your interpretation. The data doesn't say that a severe reaction means probable prior covid infection, it just means it's more likely - for instance, about 25% of those with a prior infection got chills and muscle aches with the first shot, while 10-14% of those who are seronegative (i.e. have not had prior infection) got chills and muscle aches.

And yes, there is discussion about those who have had prior infection only needing one immunization. 

I had my first Covid shot yesterday and already had Covid a year ago. No muscle aches but I did wake up in the middle of the night with a 99.9 temperature. My normal temp is 97.2. So I did feel slight chills and then Tylenol made me sweat. Interestingly, this was around the same temperature I had for a day or two when I had Covid. I wonder if I will have any side effects from the second shot. 

Glad you’re not too sick...which vaccine did you have? 

Thanks. I had the Moderna shot. I pretty much feel back to normal now - just a slight headache. But still taking it easy for the rest of the day.

Run it off! 

PJNB

Interesting to hear about everyones experience so far with the shots. Glad you guys are doing ok! I woke up this morning with a sore shoulder and no other side effects from the first Pfizer shot. I was active most of the day and barely feel anything right now. Wonder if tomorrow will be worse or better. 

Glad to hear in the news today too that the shot lasts at least 6 months and works against some of the variants too 

GlowGirl

oftenreading said:

GlowGirl said:

cblock4life said:

GlowGirl said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

Just a heads up - had my first moderna vaccine on Monday and was told that because I had covid previously that my reaction to the vaccine would be much worse the first shot.  Well, if you get the shot and get really sick and ever wondered whether you ever had covid but didn’t get tested, then you probably did based on an “evil” response.  I felt like the exorcist! But it’s going away and nowhere near as bad as covid was. So being honest, it was rough but they tell me it means it’s working. I guess ripping your guts out ends up being a good thing!  Seriously though, get vaccinated, please.

Data suggests that those who did have a previous covid infection may have stronger side effects to being vaccinated, though not in all cases, but there isn’t data for the converse  - that is, it isn’t necessarily the case that severe side effects mean a previous infection. 

Hmmm...was just reading that they’re debating whether people who already had covid should only receive one shot. Funny how countries see things so differently. 

I don’t think I’m understanding you. Those are two quite separate issues  

Seems like the US is recognizing the extreme response that post covid patients are all having therefore possibly recommending only one dose because the abundance of antibodies has shown to be so much more then they could have imagined, therefore causes severe reaction to the post covid recipient of the vaccine.  Horrible reaction = probable post covid. I originally stated probably and did so again until fully examined. 

It was a nice way of saying your further explanation was not necessary since I said “probably” in my original post. I trust that the majority of posters fully understand what people are saying because they make sure to read each word then reread. I made that mistake a few days ago and posted something exactly that was literally just posted so I apologized for not taking the time to properly read the comment(s).  I just notice certain members feel it’s necessary to further explain every post where I believe we’re all intelligent enough to understand and that if we don’t then we’ll ask 

I see what you're saying but still disagree with your interpretation. The data doesn't say that a severe reaction means probable prior covid infection, it just means it's more likely - for instance, about 25% of those with a prior infection got chills and muscle aches with the first shot, while 10-14% of those who are seronegative (i.e. have not had prior infection) got chills and muscle aches.

And yes, there is discussion about those who have had prior infection only needing one immunization. 

I had my first Covid shot yesterday and already had Covid a year ago. No muscle aches but I did wake up in the middle of the night with a 99.9 temperature. My normal temp is 97.2. So I did feel slight chills and then Tylenol made me sweat. Interestingly, this was around the same temperature I had for a day or two when I had Covid. I wonder if I will have any side effects from the second shot. 

Glad you’re not too sick...which vaccine did you have? 

Thanks. I had the Moderna shot. I pretty much feel back to normal now - just a slight headache. But still taking it easy for the rest of the day.

Run it off! 

I was seriously considering it, but no. Tomorrow is another day.

Spiritual_Chaos

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

My boss test which he did yesterday came back as negative

I did my test on tuesdfay - and has not gotten an answer. 

WHAT IS DEMOCRATIC ABOUT THAT?

What kind of tests are they administering that take so long??  Any nasal swabs I’ve had come back within 20 minutes

Takes 1-3 days here. But also, I do not think they are being checked locally but sent to a lab... which local small clinic/health centers do not have so impossible to take 20 minutes here... PCR-tests. I think. What do I know.


ANYWHO--

I AM NEGATIVE

(So will be going home over Easter)

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

My boss test which he did yesterday came back as negative

I did my test on tuesdfay - and has not gotten an answer. 

WHAT IS DEMOCRATIC ABOUT THAT?

What kind of tests are they administering that take so long??  Any nasal swabs I’ve had come back within 20 minutes

Takes 1-3 days here. But also, I do not think they are being checked locally but sent to a lab... which local small clinic/health centers do not have so impossible to take 20 minutes here... PCR-tests. I think. What do I know.


ANYWHO--

I AM NEGATIVE

(So will be going home over Easter)

Nice.  Do you still feel ill?

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

My boss test which he did yesterday came back as negative

I did my test on tuesdfay - and has not gotten an answer. 

WHAT IS DEMOCRATIC ABOUT THAT?

What kind of tests are they administering that take so long??  Any nasal swabs I’ve had come back within 20 minutes

Takes 1-3 days here. But also, I do not think they are being checked locally but sent to a lab... which local small clinic/health centers do not have so impossible to take 20 minutes here... PCR-tests. I think. What do I know.


ANYWHO--

I AM NEGATIVE

(So will be going home over Easter)

Nice.  Do you still feel ill?

Runny nose. 

josevolution

Cases up 17% in this nation, Texas Rangers to open up baseball season full capacity whoppee baseball is back not! 

mace1229

josevolution said:

Cases up 17% in this nation, Texas Rangers to open up baseball season full capacity whoppee baseball is back not! 

But isn’t Texas actually down in cases?

F Me In The Brain

GlowGirl said:

oftenreading said:

GlowGirl said:

cblock4life said:

GlowGirl said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

oftenreading said:

cblock4life said:

Just a heads up - had my first moderna vaccine on Monday and was told that because I had covid previously that my reaction to the vaccine would be much worse the first shot.  Well, if you get the shot and get really sick and ever wondered whether you ever had covid but didn’t get tested, then you probably did based on an “evil” response.  I felt like the exorcist! But it’s going away and nowhere near as bad as covid was. So being honest, it was rough but they tell me it means it’s working. I guess ripping your guts out ends up being a good thing!  Seriously though, get vaccinated, please.

Data suggests that those who did have a previous covid infection may have stronger side effects to being vaccinated, though not in all cases, but there isn’t data for the converse  - that is, it isn’t necessarily the case that severe side effects mean a previous infection. 

Hmmm...was just reading that they’re debating whether people who already had covid should only receive one shot. Funny how countries see things so differently. 

I don’t think I’m understanding you. Those are two quite separate issues  

Seems like the US is recognizing the extreme response that post covid patients are all having therefore possibly recommending only one dose because the abundance of antibodies has shown to be so much more then they could have imagined, therefore causes severe reaction to the post covid recipient of the vaccine.  Horrible reaction = probable post covid. I originally stated probably and did so again until fully examined. 

It was a nice way of saying your further explanation was not necessary since I said “probably” in my original post. I trust that the majority of posters fully understand what people are saying because they make sure to read each word then reread. I made that mistake a few days ago and posted something exactly that was literally just posted so I apologized for not taking the time to properly read the comment(s).  I just notice certain members feel it’s necessary to further explain every post where I believe we’re all intelligent enough to understand and that if we don’t then we’ll ask 

I see what you're saying but still disagree with your interpretation. The data doesn't say that a severe reaction means probable prior covid infection, it just means it's more likely - for instance, about 25% of those with a prior infection got chills and muscle aches with the first shot, while 10-14% of those who are seronegative (i.e. have not had prior infection) got chills and muscle aches.

And yes, there is discussion about those who have had prior infection only needing one immunization. 

I had my first Covid shot yesterday and already had Covid a year ago. No muscle aches but I did wake up in the middle of the night with a 99.9 temperature. My normal temp is 97.2. So I did feel slight chills and then Tylenol made me sweat. Interestingly, this was around the same temperature I had for a day or two when I had Covid. I wonder if I will have any side effects from the second shot. 

Glad you’re not too sick...which vaccine did you have? 

Thanks. I had the Moderna shot. I pretty much feel back to normal now - just a slight headache. But still taking it easy for the rest of the day.

Run it off! 

I was seriously considering it, but no. Tomorrow is another day.

I get shot 2 of pfizer on a run day, with two run days in a row after.
Great scheduling by you to have off days in line!

Hope you continue to feel better!

josevolution

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

Cases up 17% in this nation, Texas Rangers to open up baseball season full capacity whoppee baseball is back not! 

But isn’t Texas actually down in cases?

full capacity lol 

mace1229

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

Cases up 17% in this nation, Texas Rangers to open up baseball season full capacity whoppee baseball is back not! 

But isn’t Texas actually down in cases?

full capacity lol 

I agree full capacity seems too much. I just don’t know why the National data of cases being up 17% was relevant when the state is actually down 12%. They’re obviously doing better than most states, but I hear more complaints about how Texas is handling this than the ones actually up 15-20%.

mickeyrat

rates of testing should be an important marker.....

F Me In The Brain

136 people listed as died yesterday in TX.
Play ball, motherfuckers!
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

Indifference71

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

Cases up 17% in this nation, Texas Rangers to open up baseball season full capacity whoppee baseball is back not! 

But isn’t Texas actually down in cases?

full capacity lol 

I agree full capacity seems too much. I just don’t know why the National data of cases being up 17% was relevant when the state is actually down 12%. They’re obviously doing better than most states, but I hear more complaints about how Texas is handling this than the ones actually up 15-20%.

Agreed.  Full capacity at this point seems aggressive but people do love to ignore the data and facts when it comes to states like Florida or Texas.  The whole world laughed at Texas a few weeks ago when they removed all restrictions yet their numbers are currently very low.  Just more proof that no one really knows anything about how to contain this thing.

Hobbes

Indifference71 said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

mace1229 said:

josevolution said:

Cases up 17% in this nation, Texas Rangers to open up baseball season full capacity whoppee baseball is back not! 

But isn’t Texas actually down in cases?

full capacity lol 

I agree full capacity seems too much. I just don’t know why the National data of cases being up 17% was relevant when the state is actually down 12%. They’re obviously doing better than most states, but I hear more complaints about how Texas is handling this than the ones actually up 15-20%.

Agreed.  Full capacity at this point seems aggressive but people do love to ignore the data and facts when it comes to states like Florida or Texas.  The whole world laughed at Texas a few weeks ago when they removed all restrictions yet their numbers are currently very low.  Just more proof that no one really knows anything about how to contain this thing.

The data in the post above yours suggests otherwise.