The coronavirus

JeBurkhardt

F Me In The Brain said:

Bentleyspop said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Bentleyspop said:

A Florida man....

https://twitter.com/SamBrockNBC/status/1357047400548950023?s=19

Florida's gonna Florida.
25,000 fans at the game this weekend....it's the Super Bowl!



Fucking idiots.

Just to be clear at least 7,500 are vaccinated first responders attending as guest of the NFL and individual teams.

Right, I did forget that.
I think it was a publicity stunt but am happy for those folks.
Also ....isn't the WHO and CDC still advising people who are vaccinated to wear masks and social distance?

I am getting my second dose of Moderna tomorrow, and I plan on wearing my mask for the foreseeable future. 

F Me In The Brain

Glad to read of the people here getting dose two.
I can't wait - need to get out and do some normal things again, although as you stated I will keep distance and mask in place.

Hobbes

Hobbes said:

Second dose of the vaccine (Pfizer) earlier today. 

Next day had mild fatigue and body ache. Oh, and a four hour erection. Thanks, Pfizer!

JeBurkhardt

That would have been embarrassing at the vaccination site. Everyone walking around "at attention". 

PJPOWER

Get my 2nd on Monday.  Can’t wait!  It’s weird being so excited for a shot in the arm, ha

Hobbes

JeBurkhardt said:

That would have been embarrassing at the vaccination site. Everyone walking around "at attention". 

The staff at the vaccination site -- Madame Chow's Salon & Massage Parlor -- were very understanding and attended to my needs with care and compassion. Hands were a touch cold, but other than that, this story had a happy ending.

Really baffles me how anyone would be anti-vax. 

JeBurkhardt

Hobbes said:

JeBurkhardt said:

That would have been embarrassing at the vaccination site. Everyone walking around "at attention". 

The staff at the vaccination site -- Madame Chow's Salon & Massage Parlor -- were very understanding and attended to my needs with care and compassion. Hands were a touch cold, but other than that, this story had a happy ending.

Really baffles me how anyone would be anti-vax. 

The staff at mine will be a bunch of Indiana National Guard soldiers. MUCH different environment.

lastexitlondon

I would give anything for one jab. 

JeBurkhardt

lastexitlondon said:

I would give anything for one jab. 

I feel for you man. There are so many of my co-workers who were offered the vaccine and laughed it off. From what I was told, only about 33% of the staff here got the first dose in January. There are so many people desperate for one, and some people think it is a joke. Keep your head. Hopefully, they will get everything sorted out over there and get distribution ramped up.  

OnWis97

My wife is a social worker and is getting first dose of moderna tomorrow.  I'm probably still a ways off.

oftenreading

JeBurkhardt said:

lastexitlondon said:

I would give anything for one jab. 

I feel for you man. There are so many of my co-workers who were offered the vaccine and laughed it off. From what I was told, only about 33% of the staff here got the first dose in January. There are so many people desperate for one, and some people think it is a joke. Keep your head. Hopefully, they will get everything sorted out over there and get distribution ramped up.  

It's worrying how low the uptake is in some areas. A colleague of mine in medical administration in a hospital in Ontario told me that only 54% of their staff eligible for vaccination accepted the first dose, which is just crazy to me. We're talking about a health care setting, even though not all of those are direct health care staff.

Although not a lot of data has been released, it seems that uptake is better than that with the initial roll out in BC. Our health authority has said that in most facilities where vaccination has been available, the vast majority of staff have accepted the initial injection, and in some places it's 100%.

Just waiting for more vaccine to arrive now. 

lastexitlondon

We have this uptake problem  with care home staff.  It blows my mind. 

tempo_n_groove

oftenreading said:

JeBurkhardt said:

lastexitlondon said:

I would give anything for one jab. 

I feel for you man. There are so many of my co-workers who were offered the vaccine and laughed it off. From what I was told, only about 33% of the staff here got the first dose in January. There are so many people desperate for one, and some people think it is a joke. Keep your head. Hopefully, they will get everything sorted out over there and get distribution ramped up.  

It's worrying how low the uptake is in some areas. A colleague of mine in medical administration in a hospital in Ontario told me that only 54% of their staff eligible for vaccination accepted the first dose, which is just crazy to me. We're talking about a health care setting, even though not all of those are direct health care staff.

Although not a lot of data has been released, it seems that uptake is better than that with the initial roll out in BC. Our health authority has said that in most facilities where vaccination has been available, the vast majority of staff have accepted the initial injection, and in some places it's 100%.

Just waiting for more vaccine to arrive now. 

Can it be distribution for the low numbers?

Here in NY they are having a hard time giving them out.  A report came out on NPR that said at this rate it would take years to vaccinate all of NYC unless better delivery methods were taken and the fact that low income/heavily populated areas have even worse rates of administering the vaccine.

cincybearcat

From NYT artcile:

International patterns are rarely perfect, and this one has plenty of exceptions (like Iowa and Idaho, two red-state laggards, or New Mexico, a blue state that’s above average). So far, though, it’s hard to find many progressive governments that are vaccination role models.

Why? A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity.

The European Union has taken a ponderous, risk-averse approach that tries to avoid upsetting its member countries, Kauffmann points out. Similarly, many U.S. states have delegated decisions to local health officials and have suffered from “confusion and competition among localities,” William Galston of the Brookings Institution has written. State leaders in Alaska and West Virginia have taken a more top-down approach, Elaine Povich of Stateline has reported.

Some blue states have also created intricate rules about who qualifies for a vaccine and then made a big effort to keep anybody else from getting a shot. These complicated rules have slowed vaccination in both California and New York.

Continue reading the main story

“Across New York State,” my colleague Dana Rubinstein has written, medical providers have had “to throw out precious vaccine doses because of difficulties finding patients who matched precisely with the state’s strict vaccination guidelines — and the steep penalties they would face had they made a mistake.”

tempo_n_groove

cincybearcat said:

From NYT artcile:

International patterns are rarely perfect, and this one has plenty of exceptions (like Iowa and Idaho, two red-state laggards, or New Mexico, a blue state that’s above average). So far, though, it’s hard to find many progressive governments that are vaccination role models.

Why? A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity.

The European Union has taken a ponderous, risk-averse approach that tries to avoid upsetting its member countries, Kauffmann points out. Similarly, many U.S. states have delegated decisions to local health officials and have suffered from “confusion and competition among localities,” William Galston of the Brookings Institution has written. State leaders in Alaska and West Virginia have taken a more top-down approach, Elaine Povich of Stateline has reported.

Some blue states have also created intricate rules about who qualifies for a vaccine and then made a big effort to keep anybody else from getting a shot. These complicated rules have slowed vaccination in both California and New York.

Continue reading the main story

“Across New York State,” my colleague Dana Rubinstein has written, medical providers have had “to throw out precious vaccine doses because of difficulties finding patients who matched precisely with the state’s strict vaccination guidelines — and the steep penalties they would face had they made a mistake.”

They also have been screwing up appointments here.  It's not all doom and gloom though as people are getting the vax and I know a few dozen that have received it already.

JeBurkhardt

Governments screwing up the implementation of something? Huh. Who would have thought. I agree that the inequity of communities that suffered the most during this needs to be a strong factor in where the vaccines go, but paralysis through analysis trying to be legalistic on it helps no one.   

Hobbes

oftenreading said:

JeBurkhardt said:

lastexitlondon said:

I would give anything for one jab. 

I feel for you man. There are so many of my co-workers who were offered the vaccine and laughed it off. From what I was told, only about 33% of the staff here got the first dose in January. There are so many people desperate for one, and some people think it is a joke. Keep your head. Hopefully, they will get everything sorted out over there and get distribution ramped up.  

It's worrying how low the uptake is in some areas. A colleague of mine in medical administration in a hospital in Ontario told me that only 54% of their staff eligible for vaccination accepted the first dose, which is just crazy to me. We're talking about a health care setting, even though not all of those are direct health care staff.

Although not a lot of data has been released, it seems that uptake is better than that with the initial roll out in BC. Our health authority has said that in most facilities where vaccination has been available, the vast majority of staff have accepted the initial injection, and in some places it's 100%.

Just waiting for more vaccine to arrive now. 

8 of 14 in my department (we provide direct services within a healthcare setting) have been vaccinated. Baffling.

oftenreading

tempo_n_groove said:

oftenreading said:

JeBurkhardt said:

lastexitlondon said:

I would give anything for one jab. 

I feel for you man. There are so many of my co-workers who were offered the vaccine and laughed it off. From what I was told, only about 33% of the staff here got the first dose in January. There are so many people desperate for one, and some people think it is a joke. Keep your head. Hopefully, they will get everything sorted out over there and get distribution ramped up.  

It's worrying how low the uptake is in some areas. A colleague of mine in medical administration in a hospital in Ontario told me that only 54% of their staff eligible for vaccination accepted the first dose, which is just crazy to me. We're talking about a health care setting, even though not all of those are direct health care staff.

Although not a lot of data has been released, it seems that uptake is better than that with the initial roll out in BC. Our health authority has said that in most facilities where vaccination has been available, the vast majority of staff have accepted the initial injection, and in some places it's 100%.

Just waiting for more vaccine to arrive now. 

Can it be distribution for the low numbers?

Here in NY they are having a hard time giving them out.  A report came out on NPR that said at this rate it would take years to vaccinate all of NYC unless better delivery methods were taken and the fact that low income/heavily populated areas have even worse rates of administering the vaccine.

Do you mean are distribution issues responsible for the low vaccine uptake in that hospital I mentioned? If so, no; they had doses available for all of the staff and they were offered at the worksite. That was straight up refusal. 

Distribution issues have been involved with more remote sites, but this hospital is in an urban centre. 

cincybearcat

tempo_n_groove said:

cincybearcat said:

From NYT artcile:

International patterns are rarely perfect, and this one has plenty of exceptions (like Iowa and Idaho, two red-state laggards, or New Mexico, a blue state that’s above average). So far, though, it’s hard to find many progressive governments that are vaccination role models.

Why? A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity.

The European Union has taken a ponderous, risk-averse approach that tries to avoid upsetting its member countries, Kauffmann points out. Similarly, many U.S. states have delegated decisions to local health officials and have suffered from “confusion and competition among localities,” William Galston of the Brookings Institution has written. State leaders in Alaska and West Virginia have taken a more top-down approach, Elaine Povich of Stateline has reported.

Some blue states have also created intricate rules about who qualifies for a vaccine and then made a big effort to keep anybody else from getting a shot. These complicated rules have slowed vaccination in both California and New York.

Continue reading the main story

“Across New York State,” my colleague Dana Rubinstein has written, medical providers have had “to throw out precious vaccine doses because of difficulties finding patients who matched precisely with the state’s strict vaccination guidelines — and the steep penalties they would face had they made a mistake.”

They also have been screwing up appointments here.  It's not all doom and gloom though as people are getting the vax and I know a few dozen that have received it already.

It's not great in Ohio.  My 73 year old mother with immune system issues whose week it is hasn't found a vaccine and never called back by state line.  It's cause they moved teachers up.  It is supposed to open to 65 year olds monday.... it's not good.  The lack of transparency in the scheduling is a problem.

cincybearcat

JeBurkhardt said:

Governments screwing up the implementation of something? Huh. Who would have thought. I agree that the inequity of communities that suffered the most during this needs to be a strong factor in where the vaccines go, but paralysis through analysis trying to be legalistic on it helps no one.   

I wish I could find the other article, because it said if they just focused on speed, getting vaccine out to whomever, it would benefit the wealthy of course, but long term it's better for the disadvantaged as well.  Vaccines should go where there are arms ready to receive.