The coronavirus

lastexitlondon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Went on the tram this morning, like at 8:10 in the morning.

40% maybe had masks. With the recommendation being to use it during rush hours.

Confined spaces its a madness  to not have it mandatory. 

23scidoo

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

rgambs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Went on the tram this morning, like at 8:10 in the morning.

40% maybe had masks. With the recommendation being to use it during rush hours.

Giesecke redeemed??
I remember some strong boasts about Swedes doing the right/smart things without needing the government to tell them to...
I also remember my state Ohio making strong moves early, and I was going to do a Sweden/Ohio comparison someday...then Ohio's governor caved in to the right-wing hillbillies and we haven't been doing so well.
I hope Sweden does better than us, it shouldn't be too hard.

Spiritual_Chaos

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Went on the tram this morning, like at 8:10 in the morning.

40% maybe had masks. With the recommendation being to use it during rush hours.

Giesecke redeemed??

He's gone from the spotlight. Hopefully he can be redeemed at least once more before the pandemic ends.

rgambs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Went on the tram this morning, like at 8:10 in the morning.

40% maybe had masks. With the recommendation being to use it during rush hours.

Giesecke redeemed??
I remember some strong boasts about Swedes doing the right/smart things without needing the government to tell them to...

The smartest people believe Sweden is doing the right/smart thing and not the right/smart thing at the same time:

Spiritual_Chaos

FAUCI REDEEMED! 

https://youtu.be/S88_IByZsDM

dignin

It's just the flu. We should all get it a be over with it.

Lung scans show COVID-19 can leave severe damage, even in those who didn't have symptoms

https://www.wtxl.com/news/national/coronavirus/lung-scans-show-covid-19-can-leave-severe-damage-even-in-those-who-didnt-have-symptoms

benjs

23scidoo said:

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

I'm not sure it matters whether deaths are directly from the virus, or resulting from the overloaded health care system, or by the overworked health care workers, or from the steep mental health decline since the pandemic. All are inextricably linked, and spending energy to determine the magnitude of the problem while the problem indisputably remains doesn't seem like a productive venture to me.

JeBurkhardt

dignin said:

It's just the flu. We should all get it a be over with it.

Lung scans show COVID-19 can leave severe damage, even in those who didn't have symptoms

https://www.wtxl.com/news/national/coronavirus/lung-scans-show-covid-19-can-leave-severe-damage-even-in-those-who-didnt-have-symptoms

I am in pretty good health, so if I got COVID, it might not be too bad. However, I am a runner, so the idea of potentially having my lungs damaged from it is a definite motivation to get the vaccine. 

23scidoo

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

I'm not sure it matters whether deaths are directly from the virus, or resulting from the overloaded health care system, or by the overworked health care workers, or from the steep mental health decline since the pandemic. All are inextricably linked, and spending energy to determine the magnitude of the problem while the problem indisputably remains doesn't seem like a productive venture to me.

My friend it's not so simple..here, lot of people went to the hospitals for other reasons and they came out as covid deaths..with no giving a good reason to their people, how they came up with virus..

HughFreakingDillon

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

I'm not sure it matters whether deaths are directly from the virus, or resulting from the overloaded health care system, or by the overworked health care workers, or from the steep mental health decline since the pandemic. All are inextricably linked, and spending energy to determine the magnitude of the problem while the problem indisputably remains doesn't seem like a productive venture to me.

My friend it's not so simple..here, lot of people went to the hospitals for other reasons and they came out as covid deaths..with no giving a good reason to their people, how they came up with virus..

i'd like to know if you got this information from a reputable source, and if so, please link it here. 

i just can't for the life of me understand what people who think this is some big conspiracy believe the motivation for this to be. 

OnWis97

I was wondering why I had so many unread posts.

We finally had our "here's a YouTube video; educate yourselves" moment.

23scidoo

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

I'm not sure it matters whether deaths are directly from the virus, or resulting from the overloaded health care system, or by the overworked health care workers, or from the steep mental health decline since the pandemic. All are inextricably linked, and spending energy to determine the magnitude of the problem while the problem indisputably remains doesn't seem like a productive venture to me.

My friend it's not so simple..here, lot of people went to the hospitals for other reasons and they came out as covid deaths..with no giving a good reason to their people, how they came up with virus..

i'd like to know if you got this information from a reputable source, and if so, please link it here. 

i just can't for the life of me understand what people who think this is some big conspiracy believe the motivation for this to be. 

Again, it's not so simple..all the links i have are in Greeks..
but i tell you this..all November and December they told us that my town is on red code, the hospitals are full, etc..
friend of mine test positive and went to the hospital for the test..from 15 beds on ICU, ten was empty..
btw, media in Greece took two times from 20M euros for covid campaign..

HughFreakingDillon

your friend got a covid test in the ICU?  

Gern Blansten

I thought I had COVID this weekend.  Came on with massive chills and body aches Friday night.  Felt slightly better Saturday but still aches and fever.  Sunday had a fever of 103 in the am but was back to normal by 6pm or so.  It was about a 48 hour ordeal.

I did get a COVID test Saturday afternoon...got the results at 3am this morning as negative.

Just the flu I guess.

23scidoo

HughFreakingDillon said:

your friend got a covid test in the ICU?  

No but he has eyes..and he is not crazy or anything else..

mace1229

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

I'm not sure it matters whether deaths are directly from the virus, or resulting from the overloaded health care system, or by the overworked health care workers, or from the steep mental health decline since the pandemic. All are inextricably linked, and spending energy to determine the magnitude of the problem while the problem indisputably remains doesn't seem like a productive venture to me.

My friend it's not so simple..here, lot of people went to the hospitals for other reasons and they came out as covid deaths..with no giving a good reason to their people, how they came up with virus..

i'd like to know if you got this information from a reputable source, and if so, please link it here. 

i just can't for the life of me understand what people who think this is some big conspiracy believe the motivation for this to be. 

A story was widely reported in Colorado 2 people died of gunshot wounds who had tested positive, so it was recorded as a covid death. So I have no doubt it is being over reported.
That being said, if its 300,000 deaths instead of 400,000, that doesn't make it less of a pandemic. 

23scidoo

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

I'm not sure it matters whether deaths are directly from the virus, or resulting from the overloaded health care system, or by the overworked health care workers, or from the steep mental health decline since the pandemic. All are inextricably linked, and spending energy to determine the magnitude of the problem while the problem indisputably remains doesn't seem like a productive venture to me.

My friend it's not so simple..here, lot of people went to the hospitals for other reasons and they came out as covid deaths..with no giving a good reason to their people, how they came up with virus..

i'd like to know if you got this information from a reputable source, and if so, please link it here. 

i just can't for the life of me understand what people who think this is some big conspiracy believe the motivation for this to be. 

A story was widely reported in Colorado 2 people died of gunshot wounds who had tested positive, so it was recorded as a covid death. So I have no doubt it is being over reported.
That being said, if its 300,000 deaths instead of 400,000, that doesn't make it less of a pandemic. 

It could make a different if they told you, your man died from covid, when it's not and you know it and you can't go to the funeral..

HughFreakingDillon

interesting....the cdc thinks covid deaths might be under reported:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-cdc-covid-deaths-under-reported.html

benjs

23scidoo said:

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

benjs said:

23scidoo said:

I'm not sure how many of the covid deathes are really from the virus..people start talk here..

I'm not sure it matters whether deaths are directly from the virus, or resulting from the overloaded health care system, or by the overworked health care workers, or from the steep mental health decline since the pandemic. All are inextricably linked, and spending energy to determine the magnitude of the problem while the problem indisputably remains doesn't seem like a productive venture to me.

My friend it's not so simple..here, lot of people went to the hospitals for other reasons and they came out as covid deaths..with no giving a good reason to their people, how they came up with virus..

i'd like to know if you got this information from a reputable source, and if so, please link it here. 

i just can't for the life of me understand what people who think this is some big conspiracy believe the motivation for this to be. 

A story was widely reported in Colorado 2 people died of gunshot wounds who had tested positive, so it was recorded as a covid death. So I have no doubt it is being over reported.
That being said, if its 300,000 deaths instead of 400,000, that doesn't make it less of a pandemic. 

It could make a different if they told you, your man died from covid, when it's not and you know it and you can't go to the funeral..

When someone dies of CoVID you can't have a funeral for them? Is that true in any other countries? I've never heard of that.

Poncier

Gern Blansten said:

I thought I had COVID this weekend.  Came on with massive chills and body aches Friday night.  Felt slightly better Saturday but still aches and fever.  Sunday had a fever of 103 in the am but was back to normal by 6pm or so.  It was about a 48 hour ordeal.

I did get a COVID test Saturday afternoon...got the results at 3am this morning as negative.

Just the flu I guess.

Can take up to 5 days after exposure for positive test to result, so maybe get another test Tuesday or Wednesday to be sure.