The coronavirus

JeBurkhardt

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JeBurkhardt said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JeBurkhardt said:

I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine about 4 hours ago. I asked our facility head how many staff had signed up for it. He said right around 35%. So much for herd immunity. 

They should not be allowed to work close to patients during a pandemic then.

But I guess we all are in the hands of the health care workers now - and at the same time could also be their bitch. 

I am not in health care, I work in the maintenance department at a correctional facility.  Because of the amount of people in close contact, we were considered at high risk for infection and spread. 

Oh, sorry - I read your post wrong. I read it as you asking the hospital staff giving you the vaccine, like out of curiosity and got that answer.

Sorry.

No problem. I probably should have been clearer. I can see how you could think that though because a shocking amount of health care workers are not getting the vaccine either. One of my daughters is a nurse and many of her coworkers won’t get it. My other daughter works in admissions at a children’s hospital and many of them aren’t getting it either. Both of my daughters have already gotten their first doses. 

23scidoo

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/healthy-florida-doctor-dies-after-pfizer-covid-vaccine/

lastexitlondon

Holy shit 

F Me In The Brain

don't take the bait....the publication quoted there is a well known anti-vaccine group.
Read the linked USA Today story, absent the garbage editorializing from a anti vaxxer.

They will investigate....the guy did die but just because the wife thinks it is 100% due to the shot doesn't mean we need to be worried.

JeBurkhardt

GlowGirl said:

JeBurkhardt said:

I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine about 4 hours ago. I asked our facility head how many staff had signed up for it. He said right around 35%. So much for herd immunity. 

Congrats. My sister got the Moderna vaccine 2 weeks ago. She had no side effects. She is due for her second shot in a few weeks. I hope no side effects come from that either. Let us know how you are doing tonight. 

About 24 hours in and I have a headache, low grade fever, my arm is pretty sore and I have the sudden urge to buy Microsoft products. 🤔

Hobbes

JeBurkhardt said:

GlowGirl said:

JeBurkhardt said:

I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine about 4 hours ago. I asked our facility head how many staff had signed up for it. He said right around 35%. So much for herd immunity. 

Congrats. My sister got the Moderna vaccine 2 weeks ago. She had no side effects. She is due for her second shot in a few weeks. I hope no side effects come from that either. Let us know how you are doing tonight. 

About 24 hours in and I have a headache, low grade fever, my arm is pretty sore and I have the sudden urge to buy Microsoft products. 🤔

Ha!

Also, I dig that mask. Was it a purchase or did your facility hand those out?

JeBurkhardt

Hobbes said:

JeBurkhardt said:

GlowGirl said:

JeBurkhardt said:

I got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine about 4 hours ago. I asked our facility head how many staff had signed up for it. He said right around 35%. So much for herd immunity. 

Congrats. My sister got the Moderna vaccine 2 weeks ago. She had no side effects. She is due for her second shot in a few weeks. I hope no side effects come from that either. Let us know how you are doing tonight. 

About 24 hours in and I have a headache, low grade fever, my arm is pretty sore and I have the sudden urge to buy Microsoft products. 🤔

Ha!

Also, I dig that mask. Was it a purchase or did your facility hand those out?

They gave them to us along with a sticker during the 15 minute waiting period to leave after the injection. The people administrating and giving us the injections was the Indiana National Guard medical unit. 

23scidoo

F Me In The Brain said:

don't take the bait....the publication quoted there is a well known anti-vaccine group.
Read the linked USA Today story, absent the garbage editorializing from a anti vaxxer.

They will investigate....the guy did die but just because the wife thinks it is 100% due to the shot doesn't mean we need to be worried.

We don't know..this story came up from different sources..

F Me In The Brain

23scidoo said:

F Me In The Brain said:

don't take the bait....the publication quoted there is a well known anti-vaccine group.
Read the linked USA Today story, absent the garbage editorializing from a anti vaxxer.

They will investigate....the guy did die but just because the wife thinks it is 100% due to the shot doesn't mean we need to be worried.

We don't know..this story came up from different sources..

No worries.
I think this sort of article shows how important it is to understand what the source is....and to see what is opinion vs fact.

Pap

Pandemic fatigue: Reinvigorating the public to prevent COVID-19

Spiritual_Chaos

With New Law, Sweden Gains Power to Impose Coronavirus Restrictions

Parliament has approved an emergency law allowing the government to place limits on public places, fine individuals and order businesses to close down.

Parliament on Friday passed an emergency law that will allow the government to limit the number of people in shops, businesses and public places, like theaters and public swimming pools, or even order their closure in case of violations. The government will also be able to fine individuals for breaking coronavirus rules.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-restrictions.html

hedonist

Spiritual_Chaos said:

With New Law, Sweden Gains Power to Impose Coronavirus Restrictions

Parliament has approved an emergency law allowing the government to place limits on public places, fine individuals and order businesses to close down.

Parliament on Friday passed an emergency law that will allow the government to limit the number of people in shops, businesses and public places, like theaters and public swimming pools, or even order their closure in case of violations. The government will also be able to fine individuals for breaking coronavirus rules.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-restrictions.html

Sounds like LA.  And so many other US cities. I hope it (ie, its citizens) helps. 

PJNB

Good news for Canadians. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anita-anand-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-1.5867870

Procurement Minister Anita Anand says Canada doesn't need to approve additional vaccine candidates to meet its goal of inoculating everyone who wants a COVID-19 shot by September and that its target could be reached ahead of schedule. 

Canada gave the green light to Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna's messenger RNA vaccines last month, but independent regulators are still reviewing other candidates, such as the AstraZeneca-Oxford product.

"Prior to Christmas ... we exercised 20 million options of Moderna. So that allows us to have 40 million doses of Moderna now in addition to our 20 million Pfizer doses," Anand said on Sunday in an interview on Rosemary Barton Live. "That allows us to hit about 30 million Canadians."

Both vaccines must be administered twice. 

Under the contracts it has signed, Ottawa can still receive up to 56 million more doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Anand told CBC Chief Political Correspondent Rosemary Barton that discussions are ongoing to exercise that option.

"We will be on track, without doubt, to ensure inoculations for all Canadians who want it by the end of September, if not sooner," she said. "That is the goal that I am pursuing every single day, moving up that end of September timeline so that we can see ourselves through to the other side of this pandemic as quickly as possible."

HughFreakingDillon

PJNB said:

Good news for Canadians. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anita-anand-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-1.5867870

Procurement Minister Anita Anand says Canada doesn't need to approve additional vaccine candidates to meet its goal of inoculating everyone who wants a COVID-19 shot by September and that its target could be reached ahead of schedule. 

Canada gave the green light to Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna's messenger RNA vaccines last month, but independent regulators are still reviewing other candidates, such as the AstraZeneca-Oxford product.

"Prior to Christmas ... we exercised 20 million options of Moderna. So that allows us to have 40 million doses of Moderna now in addition to our 20 million Pfizer doses," Anand said on Sunday in an interview on Rosemary Barton Live. "That allows us to hit about 30 million Canadians."

Both vaccines must be administered twice. 

Under the contracts it has signed, Ottawa can still receive up to 56 million more doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Anand told CBC Chief Political Correspondent Rosemary Barton that discussions are ongoing to exercise that option.

"We will be on track, without doubt, to ensure inoculations for all Canadians who want it by the end of September, if not sooner," she said. "That is the goal that I am pursuing every single day, moving up that end of September timeline so that we can see ourselves through to the other side of this pandemic as quickly as possible."

i'd like to know why the feds are saying this while my premier says only 70% of manitobans by end of 2021. 

oftenreading

PJNB said:

Good news for Canadians. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anita-anand-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-1.5867870

Procurement Minister Anita Anand says Canada doesn't need to approve additional vaccine candidates to meet its goal of inoculating everyone who wants a COVID-19 shot by September and that its target could be reached ahead of schedule. 

Canada gave the green light to Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna's messenger RNA vaccines last month, but independent regulators are still reviewing other candidates, such as the AstraZeneca-Oxford product.

"Prior to Christmas ... we exercised 20 million options of Moderna. So that allows us to have 40 million doses of Moderna now in addition to our 20 million Pfizer doses," Anand said on Sunday in an interview on Rosemary Barton Live. "That allows us to hit about 30 million Canadians."

Both vaccines must be administered twice. 

Under the contracts it has signed, Ottawa can still receive up to 56 million more doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Anand told CBC Chief Political Correspondent Rosemary Barton that discussions are ongoing to exercise that option.

"We will be on track, without doubt, to ensure inoculations for all Canadians who want it by the end of September, if not sooner," she said. "That is the goal that I am pursuing every single day, moving up that end of September timeline so that we can see ourselves through to the other side of this pandemic as quickly as possible."

While I agree this is good news, I think that we should continue to evaluate candidate vaccines  and aim to approve at least one non-mRNA vaccine. A chunk of people are not fully vaccine hesitant but may refuse the mRNA options because they have all sorts of unfounded fears and beliefs. Also of course it’s good to have options because who knows, we may yet find out that the mRNA vaccines don’t work as well for some subset of people and that a conventional option is better. 

Spunkie

If 16% of 37.7 million Canadians are under 16, how many extra doses do we have if 100% of the remaining Canadians take the vaccine?

Edit: A bit more than 6.5 million?

Zod

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

Good news for Canadians. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anita-anand-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-1.5867870

Procurement Minister Anita Anand says Canada doesn't need to approve additional vaccine candidates to meet its goal of inoculating everyone who wants a COVID-19 shot by September and that its target could be reached ahead of schedule. 

Canada gave the green light to Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna's messenger RNA vaccines last month, but independent regulators are still reviewing other candidates, such as the AstraZeneca-Oxford product.

"Prior to Christmas ... we exercised 20 million options of Moderna. So that allows us to have 40 million doses of Moderna now in addition to our 20 million Pfizer doses," Anand said on Sunday in an interview on Rosemary Barton Live. "That allows us to hit about 30 million Canadians."

Both vaccines must be administered twice. 

Under the contracts it has signed, Ottawa can still receive up to 56 million more doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Anand told CBC Chief Political Correspondent Rosemary Barton that discussions are ongoing to exercise that option.

"We will be on track, without doubt, to ensure inoculations for all Canadians who want it by the end of September, if not sooner," she said. "That is the goal that I am pursuing every single day, moving up that end of September timeline so that we can see ourselves through to the other side of this pandemic as quickly as possible."

i'd like to know why the feds are saying this while my premier says only 70% of manitobans by end of 2021. 

I can think of two things.   Right now from what I've read, is that they're struggling to get out the doses.  IE in order to inoculate the Canadian population of 37 million people by September.  thats 9 months.  4 million people per month.... it's going at a crawl right now... hopefully they can get it moving.

The other is the delivery of the vaccines.  We preordered a bunch but I have no idea how long its going to take for us to get them all.

Hobbes

I was joking the other day that if they offered vaccines at the McDonald's drive-thru, the US would reach herd immunity in no time. Not too far fetched, apparently (sans the McDs).

OHSU hold first pilot drive-thru COVID-19 vaccination clinic in Oregon (msn.com)

HughFreakingDillon

Zod said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJNB said:

Good news for Canadians. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anita-anand-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-1.5867870

Procurement Minister Anita Anand says Canada doesn't need to approve additional vaccine candidates to meet its goal of inoculating everyone who wants a COVID-19 shot by September and that its target could be reached ahead of schedule. 

Canada gave the green light to Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna's messenger RNA vaccines last month, but independent regulators are still reviewing other candidates, such as the AstraZeneca-Oxford product.

"Prior to Christmas ... we exercised 20 million options of Moderna. So that allows us to have 40 million doses of Moderna now in addition to our 20 million Pfizer doses," Anand said on Sunday in an interview on Rosemary Barton Live. "That allows us to hit about 30 million Canadians."

Both vaccines must be administered twice. 

Under the contracts it has signed, Ottawa can still receive up to 56 million more doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Anand told CBC Chief Political Correspondent Rosemary Barton that discussions are ongoing to exercise that option.

"We will be on track, without doubt, to ensure inoculations for all Canadians who want it by the end of September, if not sooner," she said. "That is the goal that I am pursuing every single day, moving up that end of September timeline so that we can see ourselves through to the other side of this pandemic as quickly as possible."

i'd like to know why the feds are saying this while my premier says only 70% of manitobans by end of 2021. 

I can think of two things.   Right now from what I've read, is that they're struggling to get out the doses.  IE in order to inoculate the Canadian population of 37 million people by September.  thats 9 months.  4 million people per month.... it's going at a crawl right now... hopefully they can get it moving.

The other is the delivery of the vaccines.  We preordered a bunch but I have no idea how long its going to take for us to get them all.

i guess i just don't understand the disconnect. so the feds are basically throwing the provinces under the bus by saying "we have the doses to get everyone the shot by september, if it fails, talk to you premier"?

we have a major vaccination centre set up already (our convention centre in the heart of downtown winnipeg). it's barely being used yet. WTF?

anecdote: my wife had a conversation with a customer who is a doctor. the province is begging for health professionals to volunteer to vaccinate people. you can apply and either get paid or volunteer your time. she offered to volunteer her time. she hasn't heard yet and that was 3 weeks ago. 

Poncier

Hobbes said:

I was joking the other day that if they offered vaccines at the McDonald's drive-thru, the US would reach herd immunity in no time. Not too far fetched, apparently (sans the McDs).

OHSU hold first pilot drive-thru COVID-19 vaccination clinic in Oregon (msn.com)

We've got drive through Covid testing, no reason we can't do vaccines that way as well.