I talked to my Mom earlier today. She’s 78 and a cancer survivor of 4 years. Her health hasn’t been great since her treatments.
She broke down over the phone. Weeping uncontrollably because she has no idea when she will receive the vaccine. Her state (KS) and mine (MO) are doing a terrible job of providing the public with basic vaccine information. She’s terrified and lonely and it simply breaks my heart.
I am so sorry to hear this. It is heartbreaking. It seems like different states have different criteria and all it is doing is causing confusion. I know my state (NY) is having a lot of issues. My parents live in Maryland and they seem to be doing a better job. They both got their first dose last week, and already have appointments for their second dose. I am thankful for that. I was talking to my mother today and she was really glad that my father has great computer skills and was able to snag that appointment for the second dose. It is like an F5 situation. She was telling me that many older people are having trouble navigating the appointment system due to lack of computer skills. The whole thing is a nightmare.
I talked to my Mom earlier today. She’s 78 and a cancer survivor of 4 years. Her health hasn’t been great since her treatments.
She broke down over the phone. Weeping uncontrollably because she has no idea when she will receive the vaccine. Her state (KS) and mine (MO) are doing a terrible job of providing the public with basic vaccine information. She’s terrified and lonely and it simply breaks my heart.
I am so sorry to hear this. It is heartbreaking. It seems like different states have different criteria and all it is doing is causing confusion. I know my state (NY) is having a lot of issues. My parents live in Maryland and they seem to be doing a better job. They both got their first dose last week, and already have appointments for their second dose. I am thankful for that. I was talking to my mother today and she was really glad that my father has great computer skills and was able to snag that appointment for the second dose. It is like an F5 situation. She was telling me that many older people are having trouble navigating the appointment system due to lack of computer skills. The whole thing is a nightmare.
honestly, for the 70+ crowd, they should have set up a phone system like the cable company "if you'd like us to call you back when an operator is available, please press 1".
if it comes down to an online appointment, but 82 year old in laws will be screwed, unless we can do it for them.
I talked to my Mom earlier today. She’s 78 and a cancer survivor of 4 years. Her health hasn’t been great since her treatments.
She broke down over the phone. Weeping uncontrollably because she has no idea when she will receive the vaccine. Her state (KS) and mine (MO) are doing a terrible job of providing the public with basic vaccine information. She’s terrified and lonely and it simply breaks my heart.
I am so sorry to hear this. It is heartbreaking. It seems like different states have different criteria and all it is doing is causing confusion. I know my state (NY) is having a lot of issues. My parents live in Maryland and they seem to be doing a better job. They both got their first dose last week, and already have appointments for their second dose. I am thankful for that. I was talking to my mother today and she was really glad that my father has great computer skills and was able to snag that appointment for the second dose. It is like an F5 situation. She was telling me that many older people are having trouble navigating the appointment system due to lack of computer skills. The whole thing is a nightmare.
That’s great for your parents. I’ve heard the procedure to secure an appointment here is frustrating and initially ineffective, but once finally in it goes fairly quickly.
I talked to my Mom earlier today. She’s 78 and a cancer survivor of 4 years. Her health hasn’t been great since her treatments.
She broke down over the phone. Weeping uncontrollably because she has no idea when she will receive the vaccine. Her state (KS) and mine (MO) are doing a terrible job of providing the public with basic vaccine information. She’s terrified and lonely and it simply breaks my heart.
I am so sorry to hear this. It is heartbreaking. It seems like different states have different criteria and all it is doing is causing confusion. I know my state (NY) is having a lot of issues. My parents live in Maryland and they seem to be doing a better job. They both got their first dose last week, and already have appointments for their second dose. I am thankful for that. I was talking to my mother today and she was really glad that my father has great computer skills and was able to snag that appointment for the second dose. It is like an F5 situation. She was telling me that many older people are having trouble navigating the appointment system due to lack of computer skills. The whole thing is a nightmare.
That’s great for your parents. I’ve heard the procedure to secure an appointment here is frustrating and initially ineffective, but once finally in it goes fairly quickly.
Yes. My parents got lucky. They did have to drive 45 minutes away to get the vaccine. But my dad said that it all went very smoothy once they got there. He was impressed by the efficiency. They did have one snafu in that they had gotten appointments a few days earlier for a place that was a 5 minute drive from their house. When they got there they were told that the place was only for health care workers. My dad said there was no indication anywhere on the website of this. At least they only went 5 minutes out of their way - but still. There needs to be a better way. I feel like my F5 skills that I learned here getting Pearl Jam tickets may come in handy when it is finally my turn (whenever the hell that will be).
I talked to my Mom earlier today. She’s 78 and a cancer survivor of 4 years. Her health hasn’t been great since her treatments.
She broke down over the phone. Weeping uncontrollably because she has no idea when she will receive the vaccine. Her state (KS) and mine (MO) are doing a terrible job of providing the public with basic vaccine information. She’s terrified and lonely and it simply breaks my heart.
Really sorry to hear this. The emotional and mental toll of this pandemic is terrible in addition to the actual illness.
She should be a high priority with her age and medical history, hope she gets it soon.
We’ve have this school discussion a few times. Interesting data.
Good info.
Our school district (currently using a hybrid model) has reported 233 total cases since the beginning of the school year. They have confirmed 3 have come from inside one of the school buildings.
I talked to my Mom earlier today. She’s 78 and a cancer survivor of 4 years. Her health hasn’t been great since her treatments.
She broke down over the phone. Weeping uncontrollably because she has no idea when she will receive the vaccine. Her state (KS) and mine (MO) are doing a terrible job of providing the public with basic vaccine information. She’s terrified and lonely and it simply breaks my heart.
I hope she has better luck soon. I can’t imagine her worries, and your hearing them from afar.
I cannot imagine having twitter and following all of these fucking people and getting updates all day long. My web interface with people is LinkedIn to prospective clients and partners - mostly sending video or text messages directly to them....or posting on an aged rock band's forum. That is it - yet if I wanted to I could spend hours a day doing it. Need to leave time for work, family, exercise, reading, music, language, vodka, and perhaps some tv.
How in the hell do people balance twitter, being epidemiologists, emergency room doctors, statisticians, constitutional law experts, and rock band fans all at one time?
Again, at what point are we going to stop this madness?
When are you going to go about your normal, everyday life? No one is stopping you. You know, stop the madness? Lead by example.
Unfortunately, I am not a policy maker, or an epidemiologist, or anything really. Just a regular guy trying to find some truth out of this whole thing. Lucky I don’t get my sole source of news from CNBC or I would be walking around with 4 masks on at all times. Because if two give me 75% efficacy, and three gives me 90% efficacy, then four must be at or above 100%. By the way, if those numbers are correct, I wonder the efficacy of one mask is.
Again, at what point are we going to stop this madness?
When are you going to go about your normal, everyday life? No one is stopping you. You know, stop the madness? Lead by example.
Unfortunately, I am not a policy maker, or an epidemiologist, or anything really. Just a regular guy trying to find some truth out of this whole thing. Lucky I don’t get my sole source of news from CNBC or I would be walking around with 4 masks on at all times. Because if two give me 75% efficacy, and three gives me 90% efficacy, then four must be at or above 100%. By the way, if those numbers are correct, I wonder the efficacy of one mask is.
Depends on the mask
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I cannot imagine having twitter and following all of these fucking people and getting updates all day long. My web interface with people is LinkedIn to prospective clients and partners - mostly sending video or text messages directly to them....or posting on an aged rock band's forum. That is it - yet if I wanted to I could spend hours a day doing it. Need to leave time for work, family, exercise, reading, music, language, vodka, and perhaps some tv.
How in the hell do people balance twitter, being epidemiologists, emergency room doctors, statisticians, constitutional law experts, and rock band fans all at one time?
It seems like I am taking up a lot of space in your head. Dunno. I do know you have not offered one counter argument to anything I have posted, just clown emojis. I will leave for good now and leave y’all be.
I do challenge each of you to see out additional information. If I only watched the national news, I would not have left my house for the past 10 months. Fortunately, I have found other rational voices during this time to let me know we are all gonna be alright!
Here are some good sources of additional coronavirus information, or as this board would call them conspiracy theorists.
I cannot imagine having twitter and following all of these fucking people and getting updates all day long. My web interface with people is LinkedIn to prospective clients and partners - mostly sending video or text messages directly to them....or posting on an aged rock band's forum. That is it - yet if I wanted to I could spend hours a day doing it. Need to leave time for work, family, exercise, reading, music, language, vodka, and perhaps some tv.
How in the hell do people balance twitter, being epidemiologists, emergency room doctors, statisticians, constitutional law experts, and rock band fans all at one time?
It seems like I am taking up a lot of space in your head. Dunno. I do know you have not offered one counter argument to anything I have posted, just clown emojis. I will leave for good now and leave y’all be.
I do challenge each of you to see out additional information. If I only watched the national news, I would not have left my house for the past 10 months. Fortunately, I have found other rational voices during this time to let me know we are all gonna be alright!
Here are some good sources of additional coronavirus information, or as this board would call them conspiracy theorists.
I cannot imagine having twitter and following all of these fucking people and getting updates all day long. My web interface with people is LinkedIn to prospective clients and partners - mostly sending video or text messages directly to them....or posting on an aged rock band's forum. That is it - yet if I wanted to I could spend hours a day doing it. Need to leave time for work, family, exercise, reading, music, language, vodka, and perhaps some tv.
How in the hell do people balance twitter, being epidemiologists, emergency room doctors, statisticians, constitutional law experts, and rock band fans all at one time?
It seems like I am taking up a lot of space in your head. Dunno. I do know you have not offered one counter argument to anything I have posted, just clown emojis. I will leave for good now and leave y’all be.
I do challenge each of you to see out additional information. If I only watched the national news, I would not have left my house for the past 10 months. Fortunately, I have found other rational voices during this time to let me know we are all gonna be alright!
Here are some good sources of additional coronavirus information, or as this board would call them conspiracy theorists.
I cannot imagine having twitter and following all of these fucking people and getting updates all day long. My web interface with people is LinkedIn to prospective clients and partners - mostly sending video or text messages directly to them....or posting on an aged rock band's forum. That is it - yet if I wanted to I could spend hours a day doing it. Need to leave time for work, family, exercise, reading, music, language, vodka, and perhaps some tv.
How in the hell do people balance twitter, being epidemiologists, emergency room doctors, statisticians, constitutional law experts, and rock band fans all at one time?
It seems like I am taking up a lot of space in your head. Dunno. I do know you have not offered one counter argument to anything I have posted, just clown emojis. I will leave for good now and leave y’all be.
I do challenge each of you to see out additional information. If I only watched the national news, I would not have left my house for the past 10 months. Fortunately, I have found other rational voices during this time to let me know we are all gonna be alright!
Here are some good sources of additional coronavirus information, or as this board would call them conspiracy theorists.
He lost his mother, father and a brother from cancer..he has cancer too, a little girl and no job cause the lockdown.. he lives next to the biggest power plant in Greece..he takes 534 euros from the state.. yesterday, they cut off his power.. like him are thousands here.. but who cares..
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I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
He lost his mother, father and a brother from cancer..he has cancer too, a little girl and no job cause the lockdown.. he lives next to the biggest power plant in Greece..he takes 534 euros from the state.. yesterday, they cut off his power.. like him are thousands here.. but who cares..
that sounds awful. but what would your solution be?
He lost his mother, father and a brother from cancer..he has cancer too, a little girl and no job cause the lockdown.. he lives next to the biggest power plant in Greece..he takes 534 euros from the state.. yesterday, they cut off his power.. like him are thousands here.. but who cares..
that sounds awful. but what would your solution be?
The funny thing is, all his family get the cancer cause all the f*ing things came from those plants.. don't know man..with those money and the bills keep running, no one can live.. i'm not working since early August and everything is close, even if want looking for job..i'm getting less money than this poor guy.. i don't want to start..
Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015. Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022 EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
In mid-January, an unsettling report from Norway suggested 23 frail, elderly patients had all died after receiving a dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
The finding made headlines around the world.
Meanwhile, here in Canada, there have been instances of coronavirus infections and deaths in the midst of initial vaccination efforts targeting residents of long-term care.
A home in Saskatoon where the vast majority of residents had received their first vaccine dose later reported seven cases of COVID-19. And a facility in Barrie, Ont., is in the grips of a facility-wide outbreak that has caused dozens of deaths due to a fast-spreading virus variant — even as public health officials raced to fully vaccinate all the residents while the outbreak progressed.
But in all these instances of seniors falling ill or dying after receiving at least one dose, dire-sounding headlines don't tell the whole story, experts say.
"Just because somebody died after receiving the COVID vaccine does not mean the COVID vaccine caused the death," said Dr. Noni MacDonald, a researcher focused on vaccine safety who is also a professor at Dalhousie University's department of pediatrics in Halifax.
In the case of outbreaks in long-term care homes, it's important to remember that while one dose offers some level of protection, it's not the full amount that results from the two-dose regimen for either of the vaccines currently approved in Canada, said Dr. Samir Sinha, director of geriatrics at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto.
That means even if residents get partially vaccinated, it might not be enough to protect them if the virus is spreading where they live.
"There might have been a high level of COVID circulating, and they didn't have enough protection within days of their very first dose to confer immunity at that point," he said.
Canadian physicians also stress COVID-19 vaccines are proving overwhelmingly safe and protective for the majority of elderly recipients — a population that's at the highest risk of dying from the illness.
"We are now hoping that as soon as we get people vaccinated, especially in these care settings, that we're really going to see the burden of disease — and the resulting burden of death — stopped," Sinha said.
No unexpected death increase, WHO concludes
In Norway, the deaths of those 23 elderly vaccine recipients happened during the course of more than 20,000 Pfizer-BioNTech doses being administered over several weeks — not all in one go — and in a country where around 400 deaths normally occur among care home residents on a weekly basis.
Following a review of the deaths, which later totalled more than 30, the World Health Organization concluded there was actually no "unexpected" increase in deaths of frail, elderly individuals or any unusual adverse events following the vaccinations.
In fact, the vaccine did not play a "contributory role" in the fatalities at all, the panel found.
It's a finding that comes as tens of millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses are being administered in countries around the world, including to millions of seniors, with the clear protective benefits against severe infections so far outweighing minor risks such as allergic reactions in rare instances.
"We're just not seeing the data showing that the vaccine is hastening anybody's death," Sinha said.
However, an earlier investigation from the Norwegian Medicines Agency, Norway's national medical regulatory authority, did note that common adverse reactions of mRNA-based vaccines, such as fever, nausea and diarrhea, may have contributed to some of those deadly outcomes in the Norweigian patients.
Canadian physicians do agree immune system responses to a vaccine could indeed prove dire, but only for the most frail of elderly individuals who are already approaching their death based on their age and pre-existing health issues.
That could mean someone immobile, largely bed-bound and in the end stages of dementia, explained geriatrician Dr. Janet McElhaney, the scientific director of the Health Sciences North Research Institute and a professor at the Northern Ontario School of Medicine in Sudbury, Ont.
"Those are not the people that we want to be vaccinating, as they are unlikely to tolerate that."
For someone severely frail and dehydrated, even a short bout of diarrhea can be dangerous to their health, she said.
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And they stole from 1st nations people...BC citizens of the year...
if it comes down to an online appointment, but 82 year old in laws will be screwed, unless we can do it for them.
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The emotional and mental toll of this pandemic is terrible in addition to the actual illness.
She should be a high priority with her age and medical history, hope she gets it soon.
Our school district (currently using a hybrid model) has reported 233 total cases since the beginning of the school year. They have confirmed 3 have come from inside one of the school buildings.
https://mobile.twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1354223766956437509
Again, at what point are we going to stop this madness?
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My web interface with people is LinkedIn to prospective clients and partners - mostly sending video or text messages directly to them....or posting on an aged rock band's forum.
That is it - yet if I wanted to I could spend hours a day doing it. Need to leave time for work, family, exercise, reading, music, language, vodka, and perhaps some tv.
How in the hell do people balance twitter, being epidemiologists, emergency room doctors, statisticians, constitutional law experts, and rock band fans all at one time?
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Here are some good sources of additional coronavirus information, or as this board would call them conspiracy theorists.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson
https://mobile.twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (I admit, I am not the brightest but the Skeptic makes me feel dumb. Most of his stuff I get but the other I feel like I need another degree to get)
https://mobile.twitter.com/ianmSC?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Tons of graphs and other data)
God bless and stay safe y’all!
I choose to not follow anything down the rabbit hole of garbage.
Not worth my time - I simply chuckle at your opinion and move on. I don't spend any time thinking about it - hence the emoji responses.
Will leave it to the people here who love to "debate" to play the game.
FSM bless!
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I watch the national news religiously and did just fine.
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he lives next to the biggest power plant in Greece..he takes 534 euros from the state..
yesterday, they cut off his power..
like him are thousands here..
but who cares..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
www.headstonesband.com
don't know man..with those money and the bills keep running, no one can live..
i'm not working since early August and everything is close, even if want looking for job..i'm getting less money than this poor guy..
i don't want to start..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-coronavirus-seniors-vaccine-facts-1.5888781
In mid-January, an unsettling report from Norway suggested 23 frail, elderly patients had all died after receiving a dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
The finding made headlines around the world.
Meanwhile, here in Canada, there have been instances of coronavirus infections and deaths in the midst of initial vaccination efforts targeting residents of long-term care.
A home in Saskatoon where the vast majority of residents had received their first vaccine dose later reported seven cases of COVID-19. And a facility in Barrie, Ont., is in the grips of a facility-wide outbreak that has caused dozens of deaths due to a fast-spreading virus variant — even as public health officials raced to fully vaccinate all the residents while the outbreak progressed.
But in all these instances of seniors falling ill or dying after receiving at least one dose, dire-sounding headlines don't tell the whole story, experts say.
"Just because somebody died after receiving the COVID vaccine does not mean the COVID vaccine caused the death," said Dr. Noni MacDonald, a researcher focused on vaccine safety who is also a professor at Dalhousie University's department of pediatrics in Halifax.
In the case of outbreaks in long-term care homes, it's important to remember that while one dose offers some level of protection, it's not the full amount that results from the two-dose regimen for either of the vaccines currently approved in Canada, said Dr. Samir Sinha, director of geriatrics at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto.
That means even if residents get partially vaccinated, it might not be enough to protect them if the virus is spreading where they live.
"There might have been a high level of COVID circulating, and they didn't have enough protection within days of their very first dose to confer immunity at that point," he said.
Canadian physicians also stress COVID-19 vaccines are proving overwhelmingly safe and protective for the majority of elderly recipients — a population that's at the highest risk of dying from the illness.
"We are now hoping that as soon as we get people vaccinated, especially in these care settings, that we're really going to see the burden of disease — and the resulting burden of death — stopped," Sinha said.
No unexpected death increase, WHO concludes
In Norway, the deaths of those 23 elderly vaccine recipients happened during the course of more than 20,000 Pfizer-BioNTech doses being administered over several weeks — not all in one go — and in a country where around 400 deaths normally occur among care home residents on a weekly basis.
Following a review of the deaths, which later totalled more than 30, the World Health Organization concluded there was actually no "unexpected" increase in deaths of frail, elderly individuals or any unusual adverse events following the vaccinations.
In fact, the vaccine did not play a "contributory role" in the fatalities at all, the panel found.
It's a finding that comes as tens of millions of COVID-19 vaccine doses are being administered in countries around the world, including to millions of seniors, with the clear protective benefits against severe infections so far outweighing minor risks such as allergic reactions in rare instances.
"We're just not seeing the data showing that the vaccine is hastening anybody's death," Sinha said.
However, an earlier investigation from the Norwegian Medicines Agency, Norway's national medical regulatory authority, did note that common adverse reactions of mRNA-based vaccines, such as fever, nausea and diarrhea, may have contributed to some of those deadly outcomes in the Norweigian patients.
Canadian physicians do agree immune system responses to a vaccine could indeed prove dire, but only for the most frail of elderly individuals who are already approaching their death based on their age and pre-existing health issues.
That could mean someone immobile, largely bed-bound and in the end stages of dementia, explained geriatrician Dr. Janet McElhaney, the scientific director of the Health Sciences North Research Institute and a professor at the Northern Ontario School of Medicine in Sudbury, Ont.
"Those are not the people that we want to be vaccinating, as they are unlikely to tolerate that."
For someone severely frail and dehydrated, even a short bout of diarrhea can be dangerous to their health, she said.
(article continues at link)