I think it was more than they have ever had for an arena show in NA. we Are hearing about the bad news. Tons of fans got tickets. Scalpers were cut out in most markets. And when the shows are here those that want a ticket and have time to work it will be in the building.
I wanted Oakland tickets. I entered 10 Club for both and got both. I also did the VF sale today. When I logged on, the whole upper deck was available for sale as well as extreme side seats and the back 1/4 -far end from the stage in the lower level. None of the floor and none of the best 6 to 8 sections were there. When PJ announced the shows via 10 Club and showed the seating chart, there were seats highlighted in all the sections of the arena except the extreme lower sides and behind the stage. I think 10 Club had access to more seats than needed and what wasn't taken by the lottery was put up today for VF sale. So I'm guessing that everyone who put in for Oakland will be getting the best seats. If more people put in, there would have been fewer seats available today. This is my best guess for Oakland. Can't really comment on other shows.
There are still plenty of tickets left for Sunday Oakland and some for Saturday, though not many. So pretty much everyone today that wanted tickets got them. If they acted quickly, there was some good lowers available. Not having to worry about scalpers worked and left tickets for fans. I am quite happy with the experience and look forward to seeing what I get next week.
Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
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Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
Because then you would have to be in the fan club of any bands you wanted to ever see, as other groups would like to follow this model. Which means paying additional $ for the opportunity to buy tickets for a tour that may not be near you every year.
Also, being a 40 year old in a fan club draws a laugh anytime someone asks me about it. General public doesn't think it is as cool as we do.
Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
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Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
Right? We got all sorts of people complaining that more tickets should be made available to 10c members (for MSG especially), but I don't see those people buying tickets to QC, OKC, etc.
Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
I think the idea would be to play smaller venues, like Arby's.
Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
I think the idea would be to play smaller venues, like Arby's.
Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
I think the idea would be to play smaller venues, like Arby's.
Also, being a 40 year old in a fan club draws a laugh anytime someone asks me about it. General public doesn't think it is as cool as we do.
Yep (...laughs don't diminish by the time you're hitting 50, though lots of people will still be hitting you up for tickets you get from the fan club!)
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Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
Right? We got all sorts of people complaining that more tickets should be made available to 10c members (for MSG especially), but I don't see those people buying tickets to QC, OKC, etc.
So many good seats shown here as available for Oakland -- they haven't played NorCal in HOW many years? If the area was full of 10C fans that shit would be gobbled up.
Fan base is not super deep in all markets. QC and OKC, I get as they are smaller...but NorCal should smash it.
Also TM needs to promote the shows which in turn promotes the record..If nothing but fan club... zero promotion value.. its all money.. not about the fans, its about selling records..
Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
Right? We got all sorts of people complaining that more tickets should be made available to 10c members (for MSG especially), but I don't see those people buying tickets to QC, OKC, etc.
MSG is 4 hours from my house. Why on gods earth would i put in for okc??? Smh
Not near 50%. Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
I don't think as many shows could sell out on 10C alone as folks assume. Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
Right? We got all sorts of people complaining that more tickets should be made available to 10c members (for MSG especially), but I don't see those people buying tickets to QC, OKC, etc.
MSG is 4 hours from my house. Why on gods earth would i put in for okc??? Smh
So you guys don't think the 10C seating charts were reserved for the club lotteries? Just based off these presales and public sales where supply was extremely limited, the 10C seats they had marked out on the seating charts may have been accurate. In which case, 50% is about right or may even be on the low-end. LA practically had 2/3 of the arena marked as 10C seats. MSG/BALT had everything but the upper sections from stage on. They sold 4-5000 seats in the presale and probably less than that in the public sale.
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So you guys don't think the 10C seating charts were reserved for the club lotteries? Just based off these presales and public sales where supply was extremely limited, the 10C seats they had marked out on the seating charts may have been accurate. In which case, 50% is about right or may even be on the low-end. LA practically had 2/3 of the arena marked as 10C seats. MSG/BALT had everything but the upper sections from stage on. They sold 4-5000 seats in the presale and probably less than that in the public sale.
Yeah, based on my experience with Baltimore, I assumed 10C got 40-50%, VF got 40-50%, Platinum & other holdback got about 5% and general got about 10 tickets.
Avg. arena holds 18,000 people. Let's say 1500-2000 people win pairs (yes I know about singles this tour...). 3000-4000 tickets of 18K = 16 - 22%.
I'd guess 20%..... 25% at most? 30% on a GENEROUS negotiation?
In 2003, MSG had 7000 for night 1 and 8000 for night 2. I think even back then they were saying how they were able to obtain more than usual for that show due to the expected demand. Hopefully, they got even more this time around.
So you guys don't think the 10C seating charts were reserved for the club lotteries? Just based off these presales and public sales where supply was extremely limited, the 10C seats they had marked out on the seating charts may have been accurate. In which case, 50% is about right or may even be on the low-end. LA practically had 2/3 of the arena marked as 10C seats. MSG/BALT had everything but the upper sections from stage on. They sold 4-5000 seats in the presale and probably less than that in the public sale.
No, they weren't fully reserved for 10C. I looked at 4 shows yesterday during the Verified Fan sale and all 4 had seats for sale in sections shaded during the 10C lottery.
Avg. arena holds 18,000 people. Let's say 1500-2000 people win pairs (yes I know about singles this tour...). 3000-4000 tickets of 18K = 16 - 22%.
I'd guess 20%..... 25% at most? 30% on a GENEROUS negotiation?
In 2003, MSG had 7000 for night 1 and 8000 for night 2. I think even back then they were saying how they were able to obtain more than usual for that show due to the expected demand. Hopefully, they got even more this time around.
So that's roughly 40% to 10C at MSG back in 2003. So maybe 50% is not far off.
It sucks that we all didnt get into all the shows we want, but the only U.S. shows I see on StubHub are NY and DEN. In that way, we should all thank 10C. Fans have the tickets.
It sucks that we all didnt get into all the shows we want, but the only U.S. shows I see on StubHub are NY and DEN. In that way, we should all thank 10C. Fans have the tickets.
Agreed. We can nitpick a few things, but all in all, it was a pretty damn good system for achieving its sole objective - getting tickets in the hands of its fan without completely gouging them. Places like Baltimore will be 90% or more true fans, lots of energy.
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we Are hearing about the bad news. Tons of fans got tickets. Scalpers were cut out in most markets. And when the shows are here those that want a ticket and have time to work it will be in the building.
There are still plenty of tickets left for Sunday Oakland and some for Saturday, though not many. So pretty much everyone today that wanted tickets got them. If they acted quickly, there was some good lowers available. Not having to worry about scalpers worked and left tickets for fans. I am quite happy with the experience and look forward to seeing what I get next week.
Ive always wondered as long as it sells out which most could with 10c alone. Why they dont grant all 10c who would like to go . Make sell out 10c shows. Awesomeness
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hartford 06
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paris 06
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nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
Also, being a 40 year old in a fan club draws a laugh anytime someone asks me about it. General public doesn't think it is as cool as we do.
Especially if they do a reasonable tour. If its like 2018 and there's 7 shows total and folks are forced to travel they can get a lot more members to go to a given show due to less opportunity, but if they do a proper tour (and hopefully a fall leg makes 2020 as close to a proper tour as we've seen since 2013), then I think only a very few markets could basically sell out on 10C only, NYC, and maybe Chicago, Philly, Boston, Seattle.
Avg. arena holds 18,000 people. Let's say 1500-2000 people win pairs (yes I know about singles this tour...). 3000-4000 tickets of 18K = 16 - 22%.
I'd guess 20%..... 25% at most? 30% on a GENEROUS negotiation?
LA practically had 2/3 of the arena marked as 10C seats. MSG/BALT had everything but the upper sections from stage on. They sold 4-5000 seats in the presale and probably less than that in the public sale.
So that's roughly 40% to 10C at MSG back in 2003. So maybe 50% is not far off.
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Agreed. We can nitpick a few things, but all in all, it was a pretty damn good system for achieving its sole objective - getting tickets in the hands of its fan without completely gouging them. Places like Baltimore will be 90% or more true fans, lots of energy.