Shut out once again. Ten Club, I would like an explanation

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    High Fidelity 2000 said:
    Not sure if the OP did GA only, but the people who did--I just don't get it. What would you expect when the odds are so much lower? Do a backup if you really want tickets! They're still better than anything you'd get on ticketmaster!
    There's been lots of people who claim they didnt get their first pic with BA. Some just started getting confirmation emails yesterday. There was definitely something wrong with the drawing.
  • Ninjake79
    Ninjake79 Posts: 32
    The fan club is a joke. It's a cash cow for the band at this point.
  • 1rogeraspain2
    1rogeraspain2 Posts: 104
    Ninjake79 said:
    The fan club is a joke. It's a cash cow for the band at this point.
    That hardly seems fair. Twenty bucks a pop for a (better) opportunity to see the band live and a few other small perks. Seems pretty reasonable to me. Plenty of other ways the band makes $$. I can't imagine fan club dues factor in much when it comes to the bottom line. Like I say, the benefits are worth $20 a year to me. If that changes, I suppose I will exercise my free will to exit said fan club. That's an option available to any and all dissatisfied with their purchase (i.e. annual dues).
  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    Ninjake79 said:
    The fan club is a joke. It's a cash cow for the band at this point.
    If the fan club made tons of money, they'd have people and cash to throw at all these problems. They don't. They're clearly struggling. I don't envy them at all.
  • PJ Tom
    PJ Tom Posts: 1
    Same here. I only put in for 1 show, Baltimore, and chose to get any ticket available, putting me in the 99% chance zone.  I didn't even want GA-I just wanted to go to the show. I can sit anywhere. I dont care. I just want to be there.  My 20+ years in the 10 Club got me nothing for the first time ever.  
  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    PJ Tom said:
    Same here. I only put in for 1 show, Baltimore, and chose to get any ticket available, putting me in the 99% chance zone.  I didn't even want GA-I just wanted to go to the show. I can sit anywhere. I dont care. I just want to be there.  My 20+ years in the 10 Club got me nothing for the first time ever.  
    But Baltimore didn't end up at 99%. The odds go down as more people enter
  • swany24
    swany24 Posts: 52
    tdawe said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    Ilovepj47 said:
    Hurls15 said:
    I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

    I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 
    I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 
    If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 
    Just curious how you did with the lottery? 
    Me
    Toronto BA 1st priority Won
    St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

    My wife
    Toronto GA 1st priority Won
    St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost
    I figured. No offense, but most people who are endlessly defending this process, did quite well. 
    Toronto/St. Louis and MSG/Baltimore is apples vs. oranges. If you put in for BA tickets for the former shows, you got them. It wasn't really a lottery, unless you insisted on GA only. 
    Not true.  I put in for one BA ticket for St. Louis (the only show I could go to) and didn't get it.
  • gregmullen
    gregmullen Posts: 3
    So ridiculous. 99% to get either floor seats or GA for thr Baltimore show. Got neither. Nothing on verified fan. Nothing on public sale. My favorite band plays my hometown on my birthday and not only do I not get the awesome seats I have received for every local show since 2003 (through 10C), but no tickets at all. Just heartbroken. This new system truly sucks. 
  • gregmullen
    gregmullen Posts: 3
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ Tom said:
    Same here. I only put in for 1 show, Baltimore, and chose to get any ticket available, putting me in the 99% chance zone.  I didn't even want GA-I just wanted to go to the show. I can sit anywhere. I dont care. I just want to be there.  My 20+ years in the 10 Club got me nothing for the first time ever.  
    But Baltimore didn't end up at 99%. The odds go down as more people enter
    Glad there were others in my boat. Can't wait to see if the night before the show someone gets sick and can use the ticketdickwads app to put them up for sale for me to miss them. What the heck was wrong with the old way for the fan club and let the public use this craptastic system?
  • carolinaeasy
    carolinaeasy Posts: 37
    gregmullen said:
    So ridiculous. 99% to get either floor seats or GA for thr Baltimore show. Got neither. Nothing on verified fan. Nothing on public sale. My favorite band plays my hometown on my birthday and not only do I not get the awesome seats I have received for every local show since 2003 (through 10C), but no tickets at all. Just heartbroken. This new system truly sucks. 
    How much of the problem is the new system? I think the lack of shows in Philly and Pittsburgh have played against you just as much. I have two tickets to Bal that I would never have attempted to get if they had played in my home state. I think the lack of shows in the mid-Atlantic has caused the issue as much as anything. 
  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,501
    1rogeraspain2 said:
    Ninjake79 said:
    The fan club is a joke. It's a cash cow for the band at this point.
    That hardly seems fair. Twenty bucks a pop for a (better) opportunity to see the band live and a few other small perks. Seems pretty reasonable to me. Plenty of other ways the band makes $$. I can't imagine fan club dues factor in much when it comes to the bottom line. Like I say, the benefits are worth $20 a year to me. If that changes, I suppose I will exercise my free will to exit said fan club. That's an option available to any and all dissatisfied with their purchase (i.e. annual dues).

    I wouldn't even question not paying it just for the chance at tickets alone.
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  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    Ninjake79 said:
    The fan club is a joke. It's a cash cow for the band at this point.
    I only got tickets for the two LA shows because of my fan club membership

    Nobody said the lottery was 100 percent going to get tickets for everyone, that is the way a lottery works
  • pledgeagrievance
    pledgeagrievance Posts: 2,874
    gregmullen said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ Tom said:
    Same here. I only put in for 1 show, Baltimore, and chose to get any ticket available, putting me in the 99% chance zone.  I didn't even want GA-I just wanted to go to the show. I can sit anywhere. I dont care. I just want to be there.  My 20+ years in the 10 Club got me nothing for the first time ever.  
    But Baltimore didn't end up at 99%. The odds go down as more people enter
    Glad there were others in my boat. Can't wait to see if the night before the show someone gets sick and can use the ticketdickwads app to put them up for sale for me to miss them. What the heck was wrong with the old way for the fan club and let the public use this craptastic system?
    Again, Balt wasn’t 99%. It was closer to 60% chance for BA by the end. GA was under 20%. If you put in for GA only you did not have great odds
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,794
    edited January 2020
    BennyLaRue said:
    Ninjake79 said:
    The fan club is a joke. It's a cash cow for the band at this point.
    If the fan club made tons of money, they'd have people and cash to throw at all these problems. They don't. They're clearly struggling. I don't envy them at all.



    If the band were interested in a cash cow, they would have been gradually raising their ticket prices over the last 20 years the other A list bands and charge triple the price

    Do you want to pay $300 a seat face value ? The tickets would be easier to get.

    Its a paradox, you dig?


     
  • karl_chihiro
    karl_chihiro Posts: 449
    Bentleyspop said:
    Someone needs to do one of these for this tour lottery/sale etc...

    https://youtu.be/_5NiF2jxpvs
    Awesome :lol:

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  • CJ23113
    CJ23113 Long Island Posts: 187
    I've been in the10c since 1996. They used to have u mail in a check for 1 show only. I think they should go back to that system to make it fair to everyone. I'm sure there are a lot more members now. 
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    CJ23113 said:
    I've been in the10c since 1996. They used to have u mail in a check for 1 show only. I think they should go back to that system to make it fair to everyone. I'm sure there are a lot more members now. 
    Nobody who got “shut out” in the lottery this year would have been helped by such a system. The people who didn’t get any tickets were people who either were going for MSG/Baltimore (both of which were oversubscribed on first choices) or requesting GA-only (which was oversubscribed for most shows). Making it so that people who want to go to St. Louis and OKC or multiple Canada shows could only get tickets for one show wouldn’t have helped them at all. 
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  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    tdawe said:
    CJ23113 said:
    I've been in the10c since 1996. They used to have u mail in a check for 1 show only. I think they should go back to that system to make it fair to everyone. I'm sure there are a lot more members now. 
    Nobody who got “shut out” in the lottery this year would have been helped by such a system. The people who didn’t get any tickets were people who either were going for MSG/Baltimore (both of which were oversubscribed on first choices) or requesting GA-only (which was oversubscribed for most shows). Making it so that people who want to go to St. Louis and OKC or multiple Canada shows could only get tickets for one show wouldn’t have helped them at all. 
    Exactly, nobody who put NYC or Baltimore 2nd or worst won tickets. This is not a hard concept.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,794
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    tdawe said:
    CJ23113 said:
    I've been in the10c since 1996. They used to have u mail in a check for 1 show only. I think they should go back to that system to make it fair to everyone. I'm sure there are a lot more members now. 
    Nobody who got “shut out” in the lottery this year would have been helped by such a system. The people who didn’t get any tickets were people who either were going for MSG/Baltimore (both of which were oversubscribed on first choices) or requesting GA-only (which was oversubscribed for most shows). Making it so that people who want to go to St. Louis and OKC or multiple Canada shows could only get tickets for one show wouldn’t have helped them at all. 
    Exactly, nobody who put NYC or Baltimore 2nd or worst won tickets. This is not a hard concept.

    You are technically correct, but in general 10c lotto entrants should not be losing priority status to members that won with their first pick imo.

    As far as this tour goes, you are correct, because 
    in effect, they played close to zero east coast shows this tour, because there was never enough shows to split the demand into smaller pieces per show.

    did Canada, the central US and California really need the number of shows it got allocated? They created this situation with how the tour was organized. 2 more eastern shows might have split the demand so most members got a reasonable chance at one.

    And it’s impossible to fix, because eastern ticket winners, like me for Balt, are eligible to have a first priority all over again in the fall.
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    Lerxst1992 said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    tdawe said:
    CJ23113 said:
    I've been in the10c since 1996. They used to have u mail in a check for 1 show only. I think they should go back to that system to make it fair to everyone. I'm sure there are a lot more members now. 
    Nobody who got “shut out” in the lottery this year would have been helped by such a system. The people who didn’t get any tickets were people who either were going for MSG/Baltimore (both of which were oversubscribed on first choices) or requesting GA-only (which was oversubscribed for most shows). Making it so that people who want to go to St. Louis and OKC or multiple Canada shows could only get tickets for one show wouldn’t have helped them at all. 
    Exactly, nobody who put NYC or Baltimore 2nd or worst won tickets. This is not a hard concept.

    You are technically correct, but in general 10c lotto entrants should not be losing priority status to members that won with their first pick imo.

    As far as this tour goes, you are correct, because 
    in effect, they played close to zero east coast shows this tour, because there was never enough shows to split the demand into smaller pieces per show.

    did Canada, the central US and California really need the number of shows it got allocated? They created this situation with how the tour was organized. 2 more eastern shows might have split the demand so most members got a reasonable chance at one.

    And it’s impossible to fix, because eastern ticket winners, like me for Balt, are eligible to have a first priority all over again in the fall.
    I suppose technically 2 is close to zero...

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