Shut out once again. Ten Club, I would like an explanation

Ilovepj47

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

PB11041

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

It is a lottery not a fairery - was your first choice not GA only?

Ilovepj47

JR86440 said:

amethgr8 said:

Well, I don't have it ALL figured out, just yet.  My theory doesn't meet with much acceptance here but I kimd of think so.  

Even if not, still just one hat, they do the GA first priority only and BA together until all GA tix are gone. For the GA only 1st priority  requests remaining, they lost and are discarded. The BA remaining go into the Res hat with the others to get drawn or shut out.

waddya think?

10000 people put in for tickets. Tenclub allots 500 for GA and 4000 for reserved. They start the drawing. Joe Smiths name is picked. His request is BA. He goes into GA. Sally Jones is picked next. She wants reserved so she gets reserved seats. Mark Davis is third person picked. He wanted GA so he goes into GA section. They keep drawing names at random until both GA and reserved are filled. Whether you choose BA or reserved does not help or hurt chances. You pick GA only, obviously that hurts your chances by a lot. Picking GA only makes sense for only a very few people in my opinion..

But how is it fair people who choose 1st choices didnt get picked. When other folks put that city as their 2nd choice and they got it. I would think and hope they choose all the 1st choices then any remaining go onto people's 2nd choice. I think this lottery is a crap shoot.  

PB11041

Ilovepj47 said:

JR86440 said:

amethgr8 said:

Well, I don't have it ALL figured out, just yet.  My theory doesn't meet with much acceptance here but I kimd of think so.  

Even if not, still just one hat, they do the GA first priority only and BA together until all GA tix are gone. For the GA only 1st priority  requests remaining, they lost and are discarded. The BA remaining go into the Res hat with the others to get drawn or shut out.

waddya think?

10000 people put in for tickets. Tenclub allots 500 for GA and 4000 for reserved. They start the drawing. Joe Smiths name is picked. His request is BA. He goes into GA. Sally Jones is picked next. She wants reserved so she gets reserved seats. Mark Davis is third person picked. He wanted GA so he goes into GA section. They keep drawing names at random until both GA and reserved are filled. Whether you choose BA or reserved does not help or hurt chances. You pick GA only, obviously that hurts your chances by a lot. Picking GA only makes sense for only a very few people in my opinion..

But how is it fair people who choose 1st choices didnt get picked. When other folks put that city as their 2nd choice and they got it. I would think and hope they choose all the 1st choices then any remaining go onto people's 2nd choice. I think this lottery is a crap shoot.  

so yeah...

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1a: a drawing of lots in which prizes are distributed to the winners among persons buying a chance

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If you went GA over BA and lost...that will forever be on you. Learn for next time.

JK109224

You guys know what a lottery is, right?

JR86440

Ilovepj47 said:

JR86440 said:

amethgr8 said:

Well, I don't have it ALL figured out, just yet.  My theory doesn't meet with much acceptance here but I kimd of think so.  

Even if not, still just one hat, they do the GA first priority only and BA together until all GA tix are gone. For the GA only 1st priority  requests remaining, they lost and are discarded. The BA remaining go into the Res hat with the others to get drawn or shut out.

waddya think?

10000 people put in for tickets. Tenclub allots 500 for GA and 4000 for reserved. They start the drawing. Joe Smiths name is picked. His request is BA. He goes into GA. Sally Jones is picked next. She wants reserved so she gets reserved seats. Mark Davis is third person picked. He wanted GA so he goes into GA section. They keep drawing names at random until both GA and reserved are filled. Whether you choose BA or reserved does not help or hurt chances. You pick GA only, obviously that hurts your chances by a lot. Picking GA only makes sense for only a very few people in my opinion..

But how is it fair people who choose 1st choices didnt get picked. When other folks put that city as their 2nd choice and they got it. I would think and hope they choose all the 1st choices then any remaining go onto people's 2nd choice. I think this lottery is a crap shoot.  

Agreed. That is how I assumed it was and should be. Maybe ultimately it wasn't done that way and that was the error?

JimmyV

JR86440 said:

Ilovepj47 said:

JR86440 said:

amethgr8 said:

Well, I don't have it ALL figured out, just yet.  My theory doesn't meet with much acceptance here but I kimd of think so.  

Even if not, still just one hat, they do the GA first priority only and BA together until all GA tix are gone. For the GA only 1st priority  requests remaining, they lost and are discarded. The BA remaining go into the Res hat with the others to get drawn or shut out.

waddya think?

10000 people put in for tickets. Tenclub allots 500 for GA and 4000 for reserved. They start the drawing. Joe Smiths name is picked. His request is BA. He goes into GA. Sally Jones is picked next. She wants reserved so she gets reserved seats. Mark Davis is third person picked. He wanted GA so he goes into GA section. They keep drawing names at random until both GA and reserved are filled. Whether you choose BA or reserved does not help or hurt chances. You pick GA only, obviously that hurts your chances by a lot. Picking GA only makes sense for only a very few people in my opinion..

But how is it fair people who choose 1st choices didnt get picked. When other folks put that city as their 2nd choice and they got it. I would think and hope they choose all the 1st choices then any remaining go onto people's 2nd choice. I think this lottery is a crap shoot.  

Agreed. That is how I assumed it was and should be. Maybe ultimately it wasn't done that way and that was the error?

If you correctly entered the lottery selecting BA or RES for your first priority and did not get it, no one should have gotten it with their second priority and beyond. If you selected GA you limited yourself and others had the opportunity to pick up BA or RES with a lower priority. 

NewfieintheUSA

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

jerparker20

Windermere11 said:

jerparker20 said:

Windermere11 said:

Here's Your Explanation Explained... 

PRESALE  RULES - "Ticket Requests will be confirmed for each show taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed you will get your first priority."

Key words.... into consideration.

btw, when do fan club tickets go on sale? 

Just stop with all this is rules language.  “... taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed...” What a bunch of nonsense!!!

Im a longtime dues paying member of this club,  I shouldnt have to be able to comprehend reading at a third grade level in order to get tickets to a concert. What a load of trash.

Trust me son, I've been a fan and dues paying member a lot longer than you. And I have zero complaints about the lottery process. My post above regarding Presale Rules was meant to inform and educate those who didn't read the rules!
But if you (jerparker20) feel so entitled that you "shouldnt have to be able to comprehend reading at a third grade level in order to get tickets to a concert", well then i wish you good luck in life. Reading instructions and following directions is always beneficial for success. And I'll assume all those second graders' must have snagged your tickets...  

Bro, I think you may have missed the point.

And yes son, i am entitled. I have two copies of Unplugged on vinyl. Which according to another well respected member entitles me to a private performance by the band in my kitchen on my birthday. 👍

nicknyr15

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

NewfieintheUSA

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

BennyLaRue

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

You gonna take her to STL or is she on her own?

NewfieintheUSA

BennyLaRue said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

You gonna take her to STL or is she on her own?

Only if she lets me into GA in Toronto 😜

nicknyr15

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

I figured. No offense, but most people who are endlessly defending this process, did quite well. 

NewfieintheUSA

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

I figured. No offense, but most people who are endlessly defending this process, did quite well. 

And selected 99% odds shows as priority 1...

nicknyr15

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

I figured. No offense, but most people who are endlessly defending this process, did quite well. 

And selected 99% odds shows as priority 1...

Congrats 

NewfieintheUSA

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

I figured. No offense, but most people who are endlessly defending this process, did quite well. 

And selected 99% odds shows as priority 1...

Congrats 

Listen, this process was far from perfect. But people shouldn't complain is someone picks a 99% BA/Reserved odds show as priority 1 and wins, while they pick GA and or a higher in demand show as priority 1 and lose. I know it sucks. 

I lost Wrigley 2018, so I bought tickets from the VF drop. It happens. 

nicknyr15

I hear you. I’m not saying you, but I’ve literally watched people start to lose their shit an hour into results, get an email saying they won, then start yelling at people to chill out about not getting tickets. This whole process was a shit show. I just don’t remember it being this bad when 10c handled it. Maybe the best idea is to not disclose the odds? Who knows. And for the record I went 0 for 4 with mine and my wife’s accounts.

pjsteelerfan

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

nicknyr15 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Ilovepj47 said:

Hurls15 said:

I had Toronto BA as 1st choice.  I received my email confirmation at 11:46pmEST last evening.  I was following along on the lottery results thread (and refreshing my email) throughout the entire evening, and could see people reporting that they had just received their Toronto 2nd choice email (even one 3rd choice) before I had received my confirmation email.  I was under the impression that they were going to empty the entire first choice bucket before moving on to people's second or third choices.  It seems like there were other unnamed factors that went into the order in which winners were selected.

I am a relatively high membership number (in 2018) and submitted my picks on Wednesday afternoon. 

I agree. I've seen quit a few people get their 2nd choices met. And I didnt get my 1st choice. I dont get how that's fair. 

If your first choice was GA only, it's on you. If your first choice was NYC or Baltimore, that's the chance you take. Noone won NYC or Baltimore with 2nd choice, so this is fair 

Just curious how you did with the lottery? 

Me
Toronto BA 1st priority Won
St. Louis BA 1st priority Won

My wife
Toronto GA 1st priority Won
St. Louis GA 1st priority Lost

I figured. No offense, but most people who are endlessly defending this process, did quite well. 

I lost both NY and Baltimore, and like the process. It was basically a 50/50 shot at NYC, and that much better than it has been in the past. Also considering there were only 2 dates in easily the most in demand area of the country. 

10c could go back to the old way where they had significantly less fan club tickets.