***Spring 2020 Lottery Results***

NewfieintheUSA

jareds said:

bbiggs said:

JBob87 said:

bbiggs said:

Jammin909 said:

mace1229 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

jasoncap23 said:

Oak Night 2 BA 1st priority= confirmed 2:14 PT
Oak Night 1 BA 2nd priority= nothing yet????

saw some people have Oak night 1 BA as 4th priority and score tickets. How is this possible??

Bump.

still awaiting explanation from the club as to why a few Canadian fans are reporting this is what happened to them yesterday.

It is really looking like everyone is getting tickets as long as they put BA or reserved. Some who didn’t get tickets already admitted to user error. The few that haven’t been explained are almost certainly some sort of error, either user error on their part or CC processing. Not unheard of for a CC to decline an out of country purchase. Has there been anyone from Denver saying they got shut out? I haven’t heard any. But given that 4th and 5th picks are getting chosen that’s the only thing that makes sense.

I had Denver BA as priority two and just got the denial email.

I just do not understand this. I’m sorry to hear, but I feel like there must be some other cause of the denial (name discrepancies from 10C/TM, cc info, etc.).  I had Denver BA priority 3 and got tickets.  Seems like something is definitely off here. Again, sorry to hear this. 

I think the simplest answer is the priority system got screwed up and/or changed from what we were used to due to migration to TM.

If so, that’s BS and costing people tickets. TM needs to get it together if that’s the cause. 99% odds should yield tickets every time. Doesn’t matter if it’s 1st or 6th priority. 

I think the issue is the 99% odds were not real.

It's not that, it's the fact that some people got denied as first or second priority BA entries while others got BA wins with 3rd priority or later.

WMAmorican

So I got email confirmation of Oakland 1, no confirm/reject of Oakland 2 - the only two I put in for. Yet my credit card has been charged twice for the $240. So I'm thinking (hoping?)I'm in for both, but still think it's odd to get no email yet...are people still waiting to hear on Oakland, either way? And has anyone else got hit on their credit card but not gotten a corresponding email?

(For the record I was BA on both requests, again, my only two...)

inmyohiotree

I don’t know but my guess those odds are based off your 1st selection.

LaFleur

Poncier said:

mickdee said:

mpedone said:

mickdee said:

woke up to 4 emails unsuccessful Toronto/Ottawa/Quebec/Hamilton GA's, despite getting email with odds of 59/99/99/81 percent. disappointed is understatement. Signed up for Phoenix/San Diego/LA/Oakland, trying to remain hopeful, but dreading thought of going 0-8. If anyone needs a +1 for the Canadian shows let me know !

GA or Best Available? From what I've seen, the final odds for GA only for the Canada shows were 32/56/75/40.

i messed up thinking that earlier I committed to tickets the higher the odds (not realizing that number kept getting lower until close time). Still though, doesn't make mathematical sense with 32/56/75/40 that I'd go 0-4....I only signed up for GA.....now I'm pretty much out of luck for any tickets, without going on secondary ticket market

It makes a lot of sense you could go 0 for 4.

you had a 32% chance at Toronto as your first priority, your odds for each successive show are lower than the posted odds as they were 2nd, 3rd & 4th priority (I'd venture your odds for QC and definitely Hamilton were about zero.) and they get filled first with folks who chose those cities as higher priority.

Not quite, would have had better than 32% at the first pick (since the 32% includes all priorities). How much better, who knows. And odds on the second pick would been probably worse than 56%, again by how much who knows. 3th and 4th GA I'm certain are 0% everywhere.

Renfield

ecdanc said:

Doing Baltimore, NYC, Nashville, and St. Louis tomorrow. 

for me for MSG for my sister for MSG

Eddieshometown

Did everyone get a $1 charge for TicketsToday as a pending charge on their credit card?  I'm wondering if that is the test to see if the card is valid.

BennyLaRue

NewfieintheUSA said:

It's not that, it's the fact that some people got denied as first or second priority BA entries while others got BA wins with 3rd priority or later.

Haven't looked at any of the cases from today but all the issues from the Canadian shows are either confirmed to be or are very likely user error, with the one outstanding case being a guy who has two email addresses between 10C and TM and he wasn't sure if he correctly put the 10C email into the form when it required it.

jimjam1982

BennyLaRue said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

It's not that, it's the fact that some people got denied as first or second priority BA entries while others got BA wins with 3rd priority or later.

Haven't looked at any of the cases from today but all the issues from the Canadian shows are either confirmed to be or are very likely user error, with the one outstanding case being a guy who has two email addresses between 10C and TM and he wasn't sure if he correctly put the 10C email into the form when it required it.

Not the issue today.  Many won one show but lots of instances where priorities 5, 6, and 7 are beating priorities 2 and 3.  Most seem to BA - card is fine and entry was valid as another show was won.  Appears the priorities were potentially broken by TM?

NewfieintheUSA

jamesbrown1832 said:

Poncier said:

mickdee said:

mpedone said:

mickdee said:

woke up to 4 emails unsuccessful Toronto/Ottawa/Quebec/Hamilton GA's, despite getting email with odds of 59/99/99/81 percent. disappointed is understatement. Signed up for Phoenix/San Diego/LA/Oakland, trying to remain hopeful, but dreading thought of going 0-8. If anyone needs a +1 for the Canadian shows let me know !

GA or Best Available? From what I've seen, the final odds for GA only for the Canada shows were 32/56/75/40.

i messed up thinking that earlier I committed to tickets the higher the odds (not realizing that number kept getting lower until close time). Still though, doesn't make mathematical sense with 32/56/75/40 that I'd go 0-4....I only signed up for GA.....now I'm pretty much out of luck for any tickets, without going on secondary ticket market

It makes a lot of sense you could go 0 for 4.

you had a 32% chance at Toronto as your first priority, your odds for each successive show are lower than the posted odds as they were 2nd, 3rd & 4th priority (I'd venture your odds for QC and definitely Hamilton were about zero.) and they get filled first with folks who chose those cities as higher priority.

Not quite, would have had better than 32% at the first pick (since the 32% includes all priorities). How much better, who knows. And odds on the second pick would been probably worse than 56%, again by how much who knows. 3th and 4th GA I'm certain are 0% everywhere.

My guess is at least 80% of Toronto entries were first priority. Making the odds no better than 40% for GA. For Hamilton, chances are GA didn't make it out of priority 1. So this outcome is not unexpected based on your entries

NewfieintheUSA

BennyLaRue said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

It's not that, it's the fact that some people got denied as first or second priority BA entries while others got BA wins with 3rd priority or later.

Haven't looked at any of the cases from today but all the issues from the Canadian shows are either confirmed to be or are very likely user error, with the one outstanding case being a guy who has two email addresses between 10C and TM and he wasn't sure if he correctly put the 10C email into the form when it required it.

Yeah, my point is I don't believe that the odds were wrong, as that wouldn't explain the scenarios. Most likely something wrong with the entries

amethgr8

so they say they draw from priority one and if there are tickets left they go to priority 2.  they don't say how many they draw at a time.  maybe they pull 50, 100 or 200 at a time.  so if they draw 100 out the 1st priority only, and your name was not drawn, they move onto the 2nd priority, or they add the 2nd priority picks with the 1st priority and so on.  that would explain how someone is getting the 5th & 6th drawn and 1st and 2nd can be past over, just throwing it out there, guessing...

NewfieintheUSA

jimjam1982 said:

BennyLaRue said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

It's not that, it's the fact that some people got denied as first or second priority BA entries while others got BA wins with 3rd priority or later.

Haven't looked at any of the cases from today but all the issues from the Canadian shows are either confirmed to be or are very likely user error, with the one outstanding case being a guy who has two email addresses between 10C and TM and he wasn't sure if he correctly put the 10C email into the form when it required it.

Not the issue today.  Many won one show but lots of instances where priorities 5, 6, and 7 are beating priorities 2 and 3.  Most seem to BA - card is fine and entry was valid as another show was won.  Appears the priorities were potentially broken by TM?

That's strange

jareds

jamesbrown1832 said:

Poncier said:

mickdee said:

mpedone said:

mickdee said:

woke up to 4 emails unsuccessful Toronto/Ottawa/Quebec/Hamilton GA's, despite getting email with odds of 59/99/99/81 percent. disappointed is understatement. Signed up for Phoenix/San Diego/LA/Oakland, trying to remain hopeful, but dreading thought of going 0-8. If anyone needs a +1 for the Canadian shows let me know !

GA or Best Available? From what I've seen, the final odds for GA only for the Canada shows were 32/56/75/40.

i messed up thinking that earlier I committed to tickets the higher the odds (not realizing that number kept getting lower until close time). Still though, doesn't make mathematical sense with 32/56/75/40 that I'd go 0-4....I only signed up for GA.....now I'm pretty much out of luck for any tickets, without going on secondary ticket market

It makes a lot of sense you could go 0 for 4.

you had a 32% chance at Toronto as your first priority, your odds for each successive show are lower than the posted odds as they were 2nd, 3rd & 4th priority (I'd venture your odds for QC and definitely Hamilton were about zero.) and they get filled first with folks who chose those cities as higher priority.

Not quite, would have had better than 32% at the first pick (since the 32% includes all priorities). How much better, who knows. And odds on the second pick would been probably worse than 56%, again by how much who knows. 3th and 4th GA I'm certain are 0% everywhere.

I think if you pick GA only it has to be the 1st Priority.  I haven't seen anyone who picked GA only lower than 1st priority get tickets (could be wrong though).  Curious to see if anyone gets GA who picked BA with a priority 2 or lower.  The new system is a bit confusing but I need to figure it out for the fall tour (assuming there is one)

NewfieintheUSA

amethgr8 said:

so they say they draw from priority one and if there are tickets left they go to priority 2.  they don't say how many they draw at a time.  maybe they pull 50, 100 or 200 at a time.  so if they draw 100 out the 1st priority only, and your name was not drawn, they move onto the 2nd priority, or they add the 2nd priority picks with the 1st priority and so on.  that would explain how someone is getting the 5th & 6th drawn and 1st and 2nd can be past over, just throwing it out there, guessing...

No way this is what's happening

mytincture

WMAmorican said:

So I got email confirmation of Oakland 1, no confirm/reject of Oakland 2 - the only two I put in for. Yet my credit card has been charged twice for the $240. So I'm thinking (hoping?)I'm in for both, but still think it's odd to get no email yet...are people still waiting to hear on Oakland, either way? And has anyone else got hit on their credit card but not gotten a corresponding email?

(For the record I was BA on both requests, again, my only two...)

I'm in a similar situation. Got the confirmation for night 1. Nothing on night 2 yet. I was BA for both. I only have the single charge, for night 1, so far. I don't think Oakland processing is done yet. I'm hoping that anyway. There are quite a few people still waiting, according to the other thread - https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/283193/lottery-day-two-results-denver-la-x2-oakland-x2 

Alpine Bound

I got Oak 1 Best available with my 4th spot. A friend was denied Oak 1 Best Available in their 2nd spot.

Clearly, something didnt go according to plan with Tickets Today

iOnlyownMymind

Alpine Bound said:

I got Oak 1 Best available with my 4th spot. A friend was denied Oak 1 Best Available in their 2nd spot.

Clearly, something didnt go according to plan with Tickets Today

Did your friend get the rejection email?

ForceofNature101

Got tickets for both LA shows!  I had both GA and best available reserved selected for both

Eddieshometown

In past years, if someone selected a specific show seat/type as their 2nd priority and won then EVERYONE who selected it as their 1st priority is guaranteed to also win (i.e. if I selected Toronto Res as my 2nd choice and won then everyone who selected it as their first choice should have won).  Is that not the case here?  If not, what has changed??

bbiggs

BennyLaRue said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

It's not that, it's the fact that some people got denied as first or second priority BA entries while others got BA wins with 3rd priority or later.

Haven't looked at any of the cases from today but all the issues from the Canadian shows are either confirmed to be or are very likely user error, with the one outstanding case being a guy who has two email addresses between 10C and TM and he wasn't sure if he correctly put the 10C email into the form when it required it.

Good to know.