North American Tour Odds

Celticskemba8

bootlegger10 said:

vedpunk said:

If you win tickets and can’t make a show, can you resell them (at face value) on that verified fan site?

Yes.

Sorry if this is the wrong spot, but if you don’t win tickets, can you buy them from someone else on the verified fan to fan exchange thing they are doing?

ajflicker

Celticskemba8 said:

bootlegger10 said:

vedpunk said:

If you win tickets and can’t make a show, can you resell them (at face value) on that verified fan site?

Yes.

Sorry if this is the wrong spot, but if you don’t win tickets, can you buy them from someone else on the verified fan to fan exchange thing they are doing?

Yes you can

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JP218404 said:

josevolution said:

So NY & Baltimore get the most request! What is it about the northeast that people clamor for so much ..

NYC, Boston and Philly. Major markets for the band in the early days and continues to be so demand way higher. 

Dense population, easy mass transit, lack of shows this tour....

ecdanc

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JP218404 said:

josevolution said:

So NY & Baltimore get the most request! What is it about the northeast that people clamor for so much ..

NYC, Boston and Philly. Major markets for the band in the early days and continues to be so demand way higher. 

Dense population, easy mass transit, lack of shows this tour....

The population is quite dense.

Mr. Hand

josevolution said:

So NY & Baltimore get the most request! What is it about the northeast that people clamor for so much ..

I could say based on the size of the market, ease of travel to get there, etc, as to NYC, but from my perspective it comes down to one thing for MSG -- there is literally nothing that compares to seeing a concert at MSG. Greatest venue to see a show. Seen dozens of shows there, from the Grateful Dead back in the day, to Eric Clapton, to Pearl Jam. The energy in that building is palpable from start to finish and the bands react to it - all of them.

PJNB

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JP218404 said:

josevolution said:

So NY & Baltimore get the most request! What is it about the northeast that people clamor for so much ..

NYC, Boston and Philly. Major markets for the band in the early days and continues to be so demand way higher. 

Dense population, easy mass transit, lack of shows this tour....

That said the odds for MSG GA were better than they were in 2016 though. Now it takes a lot to move the needle once we get down to the lower % and single digits but still surprised that MSG GA landed 4% higher then 4 years ago with no east coast tour going on. 

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cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

bbiggs

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cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

It’s doubtful that many, if any, will get GA with their second choice assuming 20% odds. 

tdawe

Hey, for comparison purposes does anyone remember the odds for TotD at MSG in 2016?

gotthebottle

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cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

I would never say its a "lock".....

ecdanc

bbiggs said:

front spacer said:

cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

It’s doubtful that many, if any, will get GA with their second choice assuming 20% odds. 

If people here are right about how the odds were calculated, then 20% represents the odds for ALL people who included this show (regardless of where they rank it). That means someone who ranked it second has, at WORST, a 20% chance and likely (almost certainly) higher. How much higher is impossible to say. 

SVRDhand13

I don’t even care about GA I just hope I can get into Balt and MSG at this point 

NewfieintheUSA

ecdanc said:

bbiggs said:

front spacer said:

cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

It’s doubtful that many, if any, will get GA with their second choice assuming 20% odds. 

If people here are right about how the odds were calculated, then 20% represents the odds for ALL people who included this show (regardless of where they rank it). That means someone who ranked it second has, at WORST, a 20% chance and likely (almost certainly) higher. How much higher is impossible to say. 

Not really, it really depends how many put it as choice 1. If there is enough demand at choice 1 for all the GA tickets, choice 2 people have a 0% chance at GA

afgpj

PJNB said:

front spacer said:

JP218404 said:

josevolution said:

So NY & Baltimore get the most request! What is it about the northeast that people clamor for so much ..

NYC, Boston and Philly. Major markets for the band in the early days and continues to be so demand way higher. 

Dense population, easy mass transit, lack of shows this tour....

That said the odds for MSG GA were better than they were in 2016 though. Now it takes a lot to move the needle once we get down to the lower % and single digits but still surprised that MSG GA landed 4% higher then 4 years ago with no east coast tour going on. 

I said it before, but allowing ticket transfer in NY is killing us with the ticket brokers.

ecdanc

NewfieintheUSA said:

ecdanc said:

bbiggs said:

front spacer said:

cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

It’s doubtful that many, if any, will get GA with their second choice assuming 20% odds. 

If people here are right about how the odds were calculated, then 20% represents the odds for ALL people who included this show (regardless of where they rank it). That means someone who ranked it second has, at WORST, a 20% chance and likely (almost certainly) higher. How much higher is impossible to say. 

Not really, it really depends how many put it as choice 1. If there is enough demand at choice 1 for all the GA tickets, choice 2 people have a 0% chance at GA

Excellent point, confirming that the odds were virtually meaningless, especially if they draw show-by-show (as others convincingly suggested they are). 

evenflow82

Why does PJ keep coming back to Oklahoma???

bbiggs

NewfieintheUSA said:

ecdanc said:

bbiggs said:

front spacer said:

cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

It’s doubtful that many, if any, will get GA with their second choice assuming 20% odds. 

If people here are right about how the odds were calculated, then 20% represents the odds for ALL people who included this show (regardless of where they rank it). That means someone who ranked it second has, at WORST, a 20% chance and likely (almost certainly) higher. How much higher is impossible to say. 

Not really, it really depends how many put it as choice 1. If there is enough demand at choice 1 for all the GA tickets, choice 2 people have a 0% chance at GA

Exactly. Hence my initial post. There could be some, but it’s unlikely that GA gets won with second picks. 

Celticskemba8

ajflicker said:

Celticskemba8 said:

bootlegger10 said:

vedpunk said:

If you win tickets and can’t make a show, can you resell them (at face value) on that verified fan site?

Yes.

Sorry if this is the wrong spot, but if you don’t win tickets, can you buy them from someone else on the verified fan to fan exchange thing they are doing?

Yes you can

Thanks!!

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gotthebottle said:

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cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

I would never say its a "lock".....

99% for ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC = reserved tickets if you requested them.....no denials.

ecdanc

bbiggs said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

ecdanc said:

bbiggs said:

front spacer said:

cincybearcat said:

Sarava said:

cincybearcat said:

djbrothers said:

Well, the window has closed. I just took a look at the Pre-sale Timeline page on 10C and it looks like all Canadian dates should  be drawn today. Herrrrre we go!

For anybody questioning my sanity, I always wake up this early - not just to check in on all-things PJ.

Did you happen to see the final odds? Not available on the page anymore 

Dimi posted these on facebook:

Toronto: 32/99
Ottawa: 56/99
Quebec City: 795/99
Hamilton: 40/99
Baltimore: 14/65
NYC: 9/57
Nashville: 21/99
St Louis: 22/99
OKC: 63/99
Denver: 21/99
Glendale: 36/99
San Diego: 34/99
LA: 28/99; 26/99
Oak: 30/99; 37/99

Thank you for this. Appreciate it.

So ALL shows except Baltimore and NYC are locks to get seats if you wanted them with ANY priority designation....

At 20% or so, I wonder if GA tickets will be had with a person's 2nd choice?

It’s doubtful that many, if any, will get GA with their second choice assuming 20% odds. 

If people here are right about how the odds were calculated, then 20% represents the odds for ALL people who included this show (regardless of where they rank it). That means someone who ranked it second has, at WORST, a 20% chance and likely (almost certainly) higher. How much higher is impossible to say. 

Not really, it really depends how many put it as choice 1. If there is enough demand at choice 1 for all the GA tickets, choice 2 people have a 0% chance at GA

Exactly. Hence my initial post. There could be some, but it’s unlikely that GA gets won with second picks. 

No one told me there'd be maths. Humanities guy here: trying to wrap my head around numbers....not my strong suit.