I'll take Hartford. I'll take Worcester. I'll take Boston. I'll even take Philly. Actually after being shut out for the spring leg I'll take anywhere I can get fan club tickets.
“Anywhere” meaning south, midwest, west, etc...or just another impossible ticket in the NE?
Ny’rs should take the hint and travel out to see some shows.
Yep. Use NY to promote that new album. (Wow PJ sold out MSG! So donate!). I probably will donate anyway, great cause.
But if NY gets skipped over again ( yes 1 show for a 25 million region with $1500 tickets is essentially being skipped over) - DotC tour is definitely reminiscent of Bowie . Suffragette City.
Here is another prospective. I don't think they need NY to promote anything at this point in their career, playing the Apollo for the SiriusXM show makes sense for 3 very specific reasons. It's a historical venue they have never played, it lines up with their tour schedule, and SiriusXM is headquartered in NYC. I get what you are saying about supply and demand because NYC stands alone as far as population goes, but Houston hasn't had a show in 17 years. In that time frame NYC has had over 20 shows, and probably 20-30 more in very reasonable traveling distance. I think they have gone above and beyond to try and meet the demand of such a heavily populated region. I see your situation as being very fortunate when it comes to being a PJ fan, but there are always different ways to look at things. I have only slept in my bed 1 time after a PJ show, and will be setting out on another trek come April. I can respect your passion though and hope that you are able to score tickets.
Truth. Tix available for OKC. Welcome to the rest of the country NYC.
Y’all so quick to spend our money, thanks dude!
ya got a grand I can borrow for travel? I’m good for it, I promise. I thank the prez for that. Sick returns. BTW no direct flights NY to okc.
Quit whining New York. At least you get a shot at a show where you live. Enough.
Got $1756 I can borrow for the current face value? I’m good for it, I promise.
Other fans get actual shows. We get 8% shot. If it’s stoli I’m cool with it.
Yeah, but not going to be lending. My point is there are tons of towns that get no shows at all, or one every 10 years. Ironically your town gets a show every other tour but you have so many people it is difficult to get tickets. So you are basically in a similar boat to someone who lives in Atlanta or Houston. Join the club. I've seen 3 shows where I live in 22 years.
No one outside of New York feels any sorrow for New Yorkers when it comes to PJ shows.
I'll take Hartford. I'll take Worcester. I'll take Boston. I'll even take Philly. Actually after being shut out for the spring leg I'll take anywhere I can get fan club tickets.
“Anywhere” meaning south, midwest, west, etc...or just another impossible ticket in the NE?
Ny’rs should take the hint and travel out to see some shows.
Yep. Use NY to promote that new album. (Wow PJ sold out MSG! So donate!). I probably will donate anyway, great cause.
But if NY gets skipped over again ( yes 1 show for a 25 million region with $1500 tickets is essentially being skipped over) - DotC tour is definitely reminiscent of Bowie . Suffragette City.
Here is another prospective. I don't think they need NY to promote anything at this point in their career, playing the Apollo for the SiriusXM show makes sense for 3 very specific reasons. It's a historical venue they have never played, it lines up with their tour schedule, and SiriusXM is headquartered in NYC. I get what you are saying about supply and demand because NYC stands alone as far as population goes, but Houston hasn't had a show in 17 years. In that time frame NYC has had over 20 shows, and probably 20-30 more in very reasonable traveling distance. I think they have gone above and beyond to try and meet the demand of such a heavily populated region. I see your situation as being very fortunate when it comes to being a PJ fan, but there are always different ways to look at things. I have only slept in my bed 1 time after a PJ show, and will be setting out on another trek come April. I can respect your passion though and hope that you are able to score tickets.
Truth. Tix available for OKC. Welcome to the rest of the country NYC.
Y’all so quick to spend our money, thanks dude!
ya got a grand I can borrow for travel? I’m good for it, I promise. I thank the prez for that. Sick returns. BTW no direct flights NY to okc.
A grand? C'mon. I'll plan the entire trip for you; won't cost more than $500.
The top five US cities I'd love to visit to see pj for the first time in: Austin Minneapolis Houston San Antonio Louisville
Caught Metallica in Louisville last year. Really nice venue in an awesome downtown area. I'd go to a PJ show there in a heartbeat. It's also a bigger arena. Killer city!
"It's best to live in grace before you're forced to." EV- 10/09/2014
Please no more Lolla in Chicago ever! It's just a massive waste of time and it's never a memorable show for anyone. When is the last time you read anywhere PJ at any Lolla show is regarded as one of their best ever?? Always a shorter set, mainly greatest hits and the vibe just is different and a pain in the ass. Just play some normal shows in Chicago and yep that means stop with the Wrigley Field nonsense(5 shows is enough), it was fun and a couple of the shows were really good but, it's also run it's course. If it's about the $$$ then that's really a sad reason to play Lolla!! They make plenty just playing normal shows.
I had a blast at Lolla 2007. It was pretty much a greatest hits set but the opening was fucking fire. Still my favorite live version of Why Go (that I’ve seen in person). Plus got to see Ed do masters of war with Ben Harper and a song with King’s of Leon. I also discovered the badassary of My Morning Jacket there. Festivals are definitely not for everyone, and I don’t even know if I’d really dig one these days lol. They aren’t ALL bad though.
Also, yeah the money is probably good and it’s generally easier (just show up and play). But with the way they tour these days, festivals are pretty much the only way to reach potential new fans in the live setting.
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"Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
Quit whining New York. At least you get a shot at a show where you live. Enough.
Got $1756 I can borrow for the current face value? I’m good for it, I promise.
Other fans get actual shows. We get 8% shot. If it’s stoli I’m cool with it.
Your town has a higher ratio of shows per person than my town.
I'm sorry man my head is still spinning trying to understand that political debate yesterday.
I'm sorry, I forgot your town? My specific population region has over three million residents, 8 million more within 15 miles and has not seen a show since 2003 and probably will never get one again.
Quit whining New York. At least you get a shot at a show where you live. Enough.
Got $1756 I can borrow for the current face value? I’m good for it, I promise.
Other fans get actual shows. We get 8% shot. If it’s stoli I’m cool with it.
Yeah, but not going to be lending. My point is there are tons of towns that get no shows at all, or one every 10 years. Ironically your town gets a show every other tour but you have so many people it is difficult to get tickets. So you are basically in a similar boat to someone who lives in Atlanta or Houston. Join the club. I've seen 3 shows where I live in 22 years.
No one outside of New York feels any sorrow for New Yorkers when it comes to PJ shows.
One can discuss a circumstance without wanting sorrow. It's only a rock show. It's obvious what the congregation here believes. Let's get angry at scalpers taking advantage of a band that always releases tours in nickles and dimes and focuses on smaller markets at the same time pretend spending $1000 and burning fuel on an out of town trip is more righteous than staying home managing family and business responsibilities and dropping $900 on stub hub.
My point wasn't even lack of shows. It was the $1756 for MSG. The one show here seems curious.
Quit whining New York. At least you get a shot at a show where you live. Enough.
Got $1756 I can borrow for the current face value? I’m good for it, I promise.
Other fans get actual shows. We get 8% shot. If it’s stoli I’m cool with it.
Yeah, but not going to be lending. My point is there are tons of towns that get no shows at all, or one every 10 years. Ironically your town gets a show every other tour but you have so many people it is difficult to get tickets. So you are basically in a similar boat to someone who lives in Atlanta or Houston. Join the club. I've seen 3 shows where I live in 22 years.
No one outside of New York feels any sorrow for New Yorkers when it comes to PJ shows.
One can discuss a circumstance without wanting sorrow. It's only a rock show. It's obvious what the congregation here believes. Let's get angry at scalpers taking advantage of a band that always releases tours in nickles and dimes and focuses on smaller markets at the same time pretend spending $1000 and burning fuel on an out of town trip is more righteous than staying home managing family and business responsibilities and dropping $900 on stub hub.
My point wasn't even lack of shows. It was the $1756 for MSG. The one show here seems curious.
It sounds like your beef is that they don't tour that widely. We all agree with that.
Luckily you are in NYC and have three big airports that have direct flights to any city in the country Pearl Jam is playing in.
Here are 5 cities in the USA where I’ve never seen Pearl Jam and would like to do so:
Albuquerque Asheville, NC New Orleans Portland, ME Portland, OR
I visited Louisville for the first time last September and enjoyed it. Pearl Jam will not play there due to their arena’s ticketing policies - the floor is all GA and the seats have tiered prices.
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You see me empty, Sir, do not pause and inquire, simply assume and refill.
- Al Swearengen
Quit whining New York. At least you get a shot at a show where you live. Enough.
Got $1756 I can borrow for the current face value? I’m good for it, I promise.
Other fans get actual shows. We get 8% shot. If it’s stoli I’m cool with it.
Yeah, but not going to be lending. My point is there are tons of towns that get no shows at all, or one every 10 years. Ironically your town gets a show every other tour but you have so many people it is difficult to get tickets. So you are basically in a similar boat to someone who lives in Atlanta or Houston. Join the club. I've seen 3 shows where I live in 22 years.
No one outside of New York feels any sorrow for New Yorkers when it comes to PJ shows.
One can discuss a circumstance without wanting sorrow. It's only a rock show. It's obvious what the congregation here believes. Let's get angry at scalpers taking advantage of a band that always releases tours in nickles and dimes and focuses on smaller markets at the same time pretend spending $1000 and burning fuel on an out of town trip is more righteous than staying home managing family and business responsibilities and dropping $900 on stub hub.
My point wasn't even lack of shows. It was the $1756 for MSG. The one show here seems curious.
FWIW I think your gripe is fair. It sucks that for NY area people (which on a tour like this especially is really large!) the options are either get lucky or spend a shitload of money. It’s basic supply and demand (both supply and demand contribute) but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck. For a lot of reasons (not just $) travel can be tough on people so everyone saying “lol spoiled NYer just travel!” is missing that. Plus many have personal connections to their hometown venues.
Hopefully there is a more comprehensive tour in the Fall. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t given album release.
Quit whining New York. At least you get a shot at a show where you live. Enough.
Got $1756 I can borrow for the current face value? I’m good for it, I promise.
Other fans get actual shows. We get 8% shot. If it’s stoli I’m cool with it.
Your town has a higher ratio of shows per person than my town.
I'm sorry man my head is still spinning trying to understand that political debate yesterday.
I'm sorry, I forgot your town? My specific population region has over three million residents, 8 million more within 15 miles and has not seen a show since 2003 and probably will never get one again.
I'll take buffalo Detroit Cleveland Pittsburgh and London ont. All driving distance from my house.
I 100% endorse this plan. Driving distance for me as well
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....????
Sorry but this is a complete joke. New Yorkers should not be crying (but they always do). There have been countless Northeast tours with shows in New York and many, many cities surrounding or within 4 hrs of NYC (hello Hartford, Camden, Borgata, Nassau, Baltimore, East Rutherford, Boston, Philly, Buffalo, etc.) Leave it to New Yorkers to find a negative spin on their situation when the rest of the country rarely sees the band, and if they do, it’s every 5-10 years. (Chicago not included)
Sorry but this a complete joke. New Yorkers should not be crying (but they always do). There have been countless Northeast tours with shows in New York and many, many cities surrounding or within 4 hrs of NYC (hello Hartford, Camden, Borgata, Nassau, Baltimore, East Rutherford, Boston, Philly, Buffalo, etc.) Leave it to New Yorkers to find a negative spin on their situation when the rest of the country rarely sees the band, and if they do, it’s every 5-10 years. (Chicago not included)
Borgata was 15 years ago, Nassau 17 years ago, Camden 12 years ago 😂
My guess is they play the northeast in September around Global Citizens.
I think the Fall leg is gonna be longggggg Minneapolis - Chicago x2 - Detroit - Cleveland - Pittsburgh - Buffalo - Hartford - Boston x2 - Brooklyn x2 - Philly x2 - DC - Raleigh - Atlanta - Miami - Tampa - New Orleans - Houston - Dallas - Las Vegas - Portland - Vancouver - Seattle x2
Theres so many cities they CAN’T skip because it’s been so long. Unless they have a 3rd Leg planned for 2021 after Australia and South America
2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2
Sorry but this a complete joke. New Yorkers should not be crying (but they always do). There have been countless Northeast tours with shows in New York and many, many cities surrounding or within 4 hrs of NYC (hello Hartford, Camden, Borgata, Nassau, Baltimore, East Rutherford, Boston, Philly, Buffalo, etc.) Leave it to New Yorkers to find a negative spin on their situation when the rest of the country rarely sees the band, and if they do, it’s every 5-10 years. (Chicago not included)
Borgata was 15 years ago, Nassau 17 years ago, Camden 12 years ago 😂
My guess is they play the northeast in September around Global Citizens.
I think the Fall leg is gonna be longggggg Minneapolis - Chicago x2 - Detroit - Cleveland - Pittsburgh - Buffalo - Hartford - Boston x2 - Brooklyn x2 - Philly x2 - DC - Raleigh - Atlanta - Miami - Tampa - New Orleans - Houston - Dallas - Las Vegas - Portland - Vancouver - Seattle x2
Theres so many cities they CAN’T skip because it’s been so long. Unless they have a 3rd Leg planned for 2021 after Australia and South America
fall 2013...I could see it breaking down like this, maybe not quite as many shows and different cities obviously
"Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
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Austin
Minneapolis
Houston
San Antonio
Louisville
ya got a grand I can borrow for travel? I’m good for it, I promise. I thank the prez for that. Sick returns. BTW no direct flights NY to okc.
Yeah, but not going to be lending. My point is there are tons of towns that get no shows at all, or one every 10 years. Ironically your town gets a show every other tour but you have so many people it is difficult to get tickets. So you are basically in a similar boat to someone who lives in Atlanta or Houston. Join the club. I've seen 3 shows where I live in 22 years.
No one outside of New York feels any sorrow for New Yorkers when it comes to PJ shows.
Fun stuff. Let's see. My top 5 would be:
Boise, Salt Lake City, Sioux Falls, Des Moines, Atlanta
Would go back to Telluride in a heartbeat. That was the best.
Also, yeah the money is probably good and it’s generally easier (just show up and play). But with the way they tour these days, festivals are pretty much the only way to reach potential new fans in the live setting.
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I'm sorry man my head is still spinning trying to understand that political debate yesterday.
I'm sorry, I forgot your town? My specific population region has over three million residents, 8 million more within 15 miles and has not seen a show since 2003 and probably will never get one again.
One can discuss a circumstance without wanting sorrow. It's only a rock show. It's obvious what the congregation here believes. Let's get angry at scalpers taking advantage of a band that always releases tours in nickles and dimes and focuses on smaller markets at the same time pretend spending $1000 and burning fuel on an out of town trip is more righteous than staying home managing family and business responsibilities and dropping $900 on stub hub.
My point wasn't even lack of shows. It was the $1756 for MSG. The one show here seems curious.
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
It sounds like your beef is that they don't tour that widely. We all agree with that.
Luckily you are in NYC and have three big airports that have direct flights to any city in the country Pearl Jam is playing in.
Albuquerque
Asheville, NC
New Orleans
Portland, ME
Portland, OR
I visited Louisville for the first time last September and enjoyed it. Pearl Jam will not play there due to their arena’s ticketing policies - the floor is all GA and the seats have tiered prices.
- Al Swearengen
http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com
Hopefully there is a more comprehensive tour in the Fall. I’d be shocked if there wasn’t given album release.
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????
Fargo, ND 6/15/03 Winnipeg, MB 9/8/05 St Paul, MN 6/27/06 Chicago, IL 8/5/07 East Troy, WI 9/3/11, 9/4/11 Winnipeg, MB 9/17/11 Chicago, IL 7/19/13 St Paul, MN 10/19/14 Miami, FL 04/09/16 Tampa, FL 04/11/16 Fenway 1 & 2 08/05/16, 08/07/16Wrigley 1 & 2 08/18/18, 08/20/18Oakland 1 & 2 05/12/22, 05/13/22My guess is they play the northeast in September around Global Citizens.
I think the Fall leg is gonna be longggggg
Minneapolis - Chicago x2 - Detroit - Cleveland - Pittsburgh - Buffalo - Hartford - Boston x2 - Brooklyn x2 - Philly x2 - DC - Raleigh - Atlanta - Miami - Tampa - New Orleans - Houston - Dallas - Las Vegas - Portland - Vancouver - Seattle x2
Theres so many cities they CAN’T skip because it’s been so long. Unless they have a 3rd Leg planned for 2021 after Australia and South America
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
Philly x2
NYC x2
Boston x2
Other various midwest shows with a couple west coast too.
Let everyone and their brother fight for those shows listed above. It'll make tickets for hometown fans of the midwest cities easier to get.