The Democratic Presidential Debates

mrussel1

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Time for a Bide

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1233044121654300675?s=20

I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.

I think that was predicted, was it not?  But I don't know why.

He has a long relationship with the AA community, and it doesn't hurt that Obama trusts him.  He got the gold star endorsement from Jim Clyburn.  No one is more important in D politics in SC than Clyburn. 

Ahhh, OK.  I just figured out you meant African American community.  For a second there, I was wondering why South Carolina has so many recovering alcoholics! 

Thanks for the info, M!   

They're not recovering...

Here's a quite from Clyburn regarding Pete, but you could say this about any of them, compared to Biden...Relationships do matter.

“Look, he just hasn’t lived long enough,” Clyburn says of Buttigieg. “He’s what, 37, 38 years old? People have long-standing relationships, and I don’t know why people think you’re going to walk away from these relationships.”

Spiritual_Chaos

mickeyrat said:

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/27/what-pete-buttigieg-thinks-he-has-that-sanders-bloomberg-dont/

I predict the answer to that headline is:

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/27/what-pete-buttigieg-thinks-he-has-that-sanders-bloomberg-dont/

I predict the answer to that headline is:

You should read Capehart's article first.  

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Time for a Bide

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1233044121654300675?s=20

I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.

I think that was predicted, was it not?  But I don't know why.

He has a long relationship with the AA community, and it doesn't hurt that Obama trusts him.  He got the gold star endorsement from Jim Clyburn.  No one is more important in D politics in SC than Clyburn. 

Ahhh, OK.  I just figured out you meant African American community.  For a second there, I was wondering why South Carolina has so many recovering alcoholics! 

Thanks for the info, M!   

They're not recovering...

Here's a quite from Clyburn regarding Pete, but you could say this about any of them, compared to Biden...Relationships do matter.

“Look, he just hasn’t lived long enough,” Clyburn says of Buttigieg. “He’s what, 37, 38 years old? People have long-standing relationships, and I don’t know why people think you’re going to walk away from these relationships.”

Sorry for my ignorance. Maybe this is common knowledge. But how was Biden polling with AA before Obama?

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/27/what-pete-buttigieg-thinks-he-has-that-sanders-bloomberg-dont/

I predict the answer to that headline is:

You should read Capehart's article first.  

its not a meme or something from a random twitter user , so it must be fake.....

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Time for a Bide

https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1233044121654300675?s=20

I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.

I think that was predicted, was it not?  But I don't know why.

He has a long relationship with the AA community, and it doesn't hurt that Obama trusts him.  He got the gold star endorsement from Jim Clyburn.  No one is more important in D politics in SC than Clyburn. 

Ahhh, OK.  I just figured out you meant African American community.  For a second there, I was wondering why South Carolina has so many recovering alcoholics! 

Thanks for the info, M!   

They're not recovering...

Here's a quite from Clyburn regarding Pete, but you could say this about any of them, compared to Biden...Relationships do matter.

“Look, he just hasn’t lived long enough,” Clyburn says of Buttigieg. “He’s what, 37, 38 years old? People have long-standing relationships, and I don’t know why people think you’re going to walk away from these relationships.”

Sorry for my ignorance. Maybe this is common knowledge. But how was Biden polling with AA before Obama?

Who knows.  You'd have to do some research, if it even exists.  When he ran in 2008, he dropped out right after Iowa.  

Spiritual_Chaos

nvm

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/27/what-pete-buttigieg-thinks-he-has-that-sanders-bloomberg-dont/

I predict the answer to that headline is:

You should read Capehart's article first.  

Hah. Never seen they have a free option!

pjl44

benjs said:

pjl44 said:

After 30 years of trying, Joe Biden may actually win a Presidential primary. The Susan Lucci of American politics. 

If I recall from the aggregators' rough trends, Sanders' voting base floor seems to be more or less solid, whereas I'm not sure Biden's supporters have been quite as 'sticky'. This, coupled with a voting base that as each election goes on proves itself to make decisions more and more impulsively (otherwise I suspect you'd see frontrunners lose their spots gradually instead of abruptly), makes me believe that if Biden wins SC, he'll be pretty straightforward to unthrone.

If you're confident in that, go make some money. You really could have cleaned up before the debate.

mrussel1

So Vegas still says Bernie or Biden, basically.  And as people not named Warren drop, the odds will swing closer to Biden.  

* - edit, wait a minute.  What has happened in the last two days that has moved the numbers toward Biden?  Is it simply the most recent SC polling?  I saw that Biden has reasserted a lead in FL over Bernie too.  The Castro stuff does not play well there.  

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

So Vegas still says Bernie or Biden, basically.  And as people not named Warren drop, the odds will swing closer to Biden.  

* - edit, wait a minute.  What has happened in the last two days that has moved the numbers toward Biden?  Is it simply the most recent SC polling?  I saw that Biden has reasserted a lead in FL over Bernie too.  The Castro stuff does not play well there.  

Good FSM...they need to start asking these two who they would favor as running mates.

They are 77 and 78, and will be 78 and 79 when taking office, if some parting of the Red Sea were to happen and Trump lost.

This is just crazy!

OnWis97

Anyone behind Hillary Clinton on that list should drop out.  That essentially just means Klobuchar, I guess.  But still.  

Of course, Warren's tied with her and I still think she has an outside shot.

If she were a man, she'd be in the driver's seat.

F Me In The Brain

Also, Gump was 70 when he took office....the oldest person to have a fresh crack at things.  We would be advancing that by almost 10 years!

What would be next?  Putting someone who is in their late 80s up?      

It feels like we are going in the wrong direction.

Ledbetterman10

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

So Vegas still says Bernie or Biden, basically.  And as people not named Warren drop, the odds will swing closer to Biden.  

* - edit, wait a minute.  What has happened in the last two days that has moved the numbers toward Biden?  Is it simply the most recent SC polling?  I saw that Biden has reasserted a lead in FL over Bernie too.  The Castro stuff does not play well there.  

Good FSM...they need to start asking these two who they would favor as running mates.

They are 77 and 78, and will be 78 and 79 when taking office, if some parting of the Red Sea were to happen and Trump lost.

This is just crazy!

This is what I like most about Buttigieg. At least he's in my age range and can relate to the wants/needs of someone like myself. The average life-expectancy for an American male is 78 years old. That means of Trump, Biden, Sanders, and Bloomberg.....one of them will likely die within the next few years. I mean, hopefully not, I don't want to see anyone dying. But time is not in their favor. 

pjl44

mrussel1 said:

So Vegas still says Bernie or Biden, basically.  And as people not named Warren drop, the odds will swing closer to Biden.  

* - edit, wait a minute.  What has happened in the last two days that has moved the numbers toward Biden?  Is it simply the most recent SC polling?  I saw that Biden has reasserted a lead in FL over Bernie too.  The Castro stuff does not play well there.  

Purely anecdotal but I saw a couple polls early in the week with Bernie and Biden virtually tied in SC. Post-debate the ones I've seen have Biden with like a 20 point lead. If all that is right, I guess it means they see him as pulling ahead in that moderate lane.

cincybearcat

Bernie said during his town hall when asked about selecting a running mate early considering his age and recent medical history.  He said that would be presumptuous.  But he said that he could guarantee that it wouldn't be "an old white guy"

F Me In The Brain

cincybearcat said:

Bernie said during his town hall when asked about selecting a running mate early considering his age and recent medical history.  He said that would be presumptuous.  But he said that he could guarantee that it wouldn't be "an old white guy"

Well, that is good.  I don't care what the person looks like, just that they are a sound choice and below the age of 60.

HughFreakingDillon

if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 

CM189191

HughFreakingDillon said:

if bernie wins he's choosing either kamala or pete. for obvious reasons. I'd personally go with kamala. 

What makes you think Kamala or Peter are going to drag their good name through the mud by hitching a ride to that dumpster fire?

Nobody with any sort of reputation is actually going to want to be Bernie's vp.

cincybearcat

You know was Elizabeth Warren was speaking about education during the debate I really felt like Bloomberg or someone missed a huge opportunity.  Should have turned to her and said, "Elizabeth, Love your passion on this topic.  You'll make a great Secretary of Education in my administration"