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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    https://youtu.be/1PjNlBV-_s8

    https://youtu.be/VBpmYDLECF8

    https://youtu.be/4c5fuOPCeYw

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    edited February 2020
    Lets go for a Bide




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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    After 30 years of trying, Joe Biden may actually win a Presidential primary. The Susan Lucci of American politics. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide


    Bloomberg's lucky to not be on this ballot. The link says that 46% of 713 people polled in South Carolina say they would be "not at all likely" to vote for him if he were on the ballot. Wouldn't be surprised if his team anticipated this and didn't even try to be on the SC ballot because of it. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,813
    mickeyrat said:
    bloomberg radio spot in part...
    "do you want a debater or do you want a doer......"

    Just was talking at work with a moderate Republican about the primaries and he mentioned that spot and was impressed.

    Democrats becoming the party of Russia... Russian roulette 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    pjl44 said:
    After 30 years of trying, Joe Biden may actually win a Presidential primary. The Susan Lucci of American politics. 
    hardly art burn GIF by Tacocat
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    pjl44 said:
    After 30 years of trying, Joe Biden may actually win a Presidential primary. The Susan Lucci of American politics. 
    If I recall from the aggregators' rough trends, Sanders' voting base floor seems to be more or less solid, whereas I'm not sure Biden's supporters have been quite as 'sticky'. This, coupled with a voting base that as each election goes on proves itself to make decisions more and more impulsively (otherwise I suspect you'd see frontrunners lose their spots gradually instead of abruptly), makes me believe that if Biden wins SC, he'll be pretty straightforward to unthrone.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,315
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide


    Bloomberg's lucky to not be on this ballot. The link says that 46% of 713 people polled in South Carolina say they would be "not at all likely" to vote for him if he were on the ballot. Wouldn't be surprised if his team anticipated this and didn't even try to be on the SC ballot because of it. 
    in Ohio the filing deadline is 100 days out. Assume same or similar elsewhere. So given when he entered he couldnt be on the ballot.
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  • mickeyrat
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      https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide




    I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide


    Bloomberg's lucky to not be on this ballot. The link says that 46% of 713 people polled in South Carolina say they would be "not at all likely" to vote for him if he were on the ballot. Wouldn't be surprised if his team anticipated this and didn't even try to be on the SC ballot because of it. 
    in Ohio the filing deadline is 100 days out. Assume same or similar elsewhere. So given when he entered he couldnt be on the ballot.
    Is he on all the Super Tuesday ballots? 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,813
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide




    I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.


    Biden has been hurt by 2 moderate billionaires. If he can win by 20, there's hope cali wakes up by Tuesday 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,315
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide


    Bloomberg's lucky to not be on this ballot. The link says that 46% of 713 people polled in South Carolina say they would be "not at all likely" to vote for him if he were on the ballot. Wouldn't be surprised if his team anticipated this and didn't even try to be on the SC ballot because of it. 
    in Ohio the filing deadline is 100 days out. Assume same or similar elsewhere. So given when he entered he couldnt be on the ballot.
    Is he on all the Super Tuesday ballots? 
    yes. its been his focus apparently. he could have filed for SC if he chose to. Announced with enough time. Perhaps saw it as a loser?

    But am surprised though he participated in that debate without being in the primary there.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    edited February 2020
    Lerxst1992 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide




    I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.


    Biden has been hurt by 2 moderate billionaires. If he can win by 20, there's hope cali wakes up by Tuesday 
    Cali is too smart to not vote for Bernie. He'll going home with all the delegates. #swoop
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,658
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Nothing gets the clicks like an article about a brokered convention.

    You can bookmark this for later, it won't happen.

    It may not happen, but if I were a betting man, I would not put money on saying "no, it won't happen".  There are a lot of people who think it is somewhat possible to quite likely. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,658
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide




    I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.

    I think that was predicted, was it not?  But I don't know why.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide




    I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.

    I think that was predicted, was it not?  But I don't know why.
    He has a long relationship with the AA community, and it doesn't hurt that Obama trusts him.  He got the gold star endorsement from Jim Clyburn.  No one is more important in D politics in SC than Clyburn. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,315
    Miss Black America endorses Pete and is stumping for him.....


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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,658
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Time for a Bide




    I'm surprised to see Biden so high in that area.

    I think that was predicted, was it not?  But I don't know why.
    He has a long relationship with the AA community, and it doesn't hurt that Obama trusts him.  He got the gold star endorsement from Jim Clyburn.  No one is more important in D politics in SC than Clyburn. 

    Ahhh, OK.  I just figured out you meant African American community.  For a second there, I was wondering why South Carolina has so many recovering alcoholics! 

    Thanks for the info, M!  :smile: 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,315
    edited February 2020
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/27/what-pete-buttigieg-thinks-he-has-that-sanders-bloomberg-dont/

    Feb. 27, 2020 at 6:01 a.m. EST

    After interviewing former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg for a third time since December 2018, I came away with one distinct and favorable impression: He hasn’t changed. It’s one of the reasons he is where he is in the race for the Democratic nomination for president.

    When Buttigieg came to my “Cape Up” podcast the first time, he expressed a clear vision for where he thought the Democratic Party needed to go if it wanted to both regain the trust of the American people and retake the White House. Buttigieg’s calm, Obama-esque demeanor and intellect were a reminder of what thoughtful leadership used to look like after the first 10 horrifying months of the Trump administration.

    All of that was on display at the 92nd Street Y in New York in May 2019 when I interviewed Buttigieg, whose CNN town hall two months earlier had catapulted him to national prominence. And that self-assurance and message discipline remained as Buttigieg sat across from me on Monday in a hotel conference room in Charleston, S.C., to make the case that he should be the Democratic nominee.

    He is in the top tier for the nomination after eking out a delegate victory over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the Iowa caucuses. But Sanders’s big win in Nevada and his rising polls numbers have folks wondering whether the democratic socialist from Vermont can be stopped. When I asked Buttigieg whether it was too late to halt Sanders’s rise, he said, “No, but it will be if we don’t get our act together.” When I asked him what getting “our act together” looks like, Buttigieg responded, “What I think that should look like is to rally around a candidate, perhaps the one candidate to have actually beaten Bernie Sanders anywhere in the country this cycle, which is my campaign.”


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