Are Professional Sports Slowly Dying?

cutz

The Juggler said:

MayDay10 said:

Yeah, thats a good point.  Imagine bart starr trying to beat a calculated thoroughbred like stephon gilmore or pat Peterson 

Now imagine Dan Marino? I’m guessing the OP grew up in the 80’s or 90’s as opposed to the 60’s...

Marino would have numbers out of this world in today’s NFL

Marino would get over 60 TD's?

mace1229

Back to the original question. It’s a weird state, people seem to know more about sports with the internet and fantasy leagues, but attendance and viewership does seem down. The World Series seemed as big as the super bowl when I was growing up, now you can go to the grocery store on game 7 and half the people don’t even know the World Series is on.
I think sports has become too overblown. I don’t care if you’re the best pitcher in the world, we pay them way too much. And that college football coaches are the highest paid public employees on our country is a joke to me. Athletes and coaches could still make a killing getting paid 1/10 what they currently do. 

The Juggler

cutz said:

The Juggler said:

MayDay10 said:

Yeah, thats a good point.  Imagine bart starr trying to beat a calculated thoroughbred like stephon gilmore or pat Peterson 

Now imagine Dan Marino? I’m guessing the OP grew up in the 80’s or 90’s as opposed to the 60’s...

Marino would have numbers out of this world in today’s NFL

Marino would get over 60 TD's?

Wouldn’t put it past him to average 50 and 5,000 yards

cutz

mace1229 said:

Back to the original question. It’s a weird state, people seem to know more about sports with the internet and fantasy leagues, but attendance and viewership does seem down. The World Series seemed as big as the super bowl when I was growing up, now you can go to the grocery store on game 7 and half the people don’t even know the World Series is on.
I think sports has become too overblown. I don’t care if you’re the best pitcher in the world, we pay them way too much. And that college football coaches are the highest paid public employees on our country is a joke to me. Athletes and coaches could still make a killing getting paid 1/10 what they currently do. 

Baseball is a Regional sport now.

pjhawks

More than 3 million more people watched the Thursday night nfl kickoff than watched the last episode of game of thrones. Nfl doing more than fine

brianlux

I think if sports haven't gone on the decline already (my guess is they have) they probably will in the not-to-distant future because the number of kids participating in team sports is on the decline (easily verified by various articles on line).  If the big money that is in sports want to keep it's revenue flowing, they will have to start catering to the tastes of the public.  And those tastes are leaning more an more toward things that are brutal and violent (also easily verified).  That means that some of the scenarios depicted in futuristic movies may prove to not be so far fetched in the future.  Here are some example with synopses take from IMDB:

ROLLERBALL:

In a corporate-controlled future, an ultra-violent sport known as Rollerball represents the world, and one of its powerful athletes is out to defy those who want him out of the game.

THE BLOOD OF HEROES:

In a future, where most of mankind and technology is wiped out, 6 people travel from place to place playing a brutal form of football with a dog skull. They hope one day to play in the league in a city.

THE 10TH VICTIM:

Some people like violence so much, that they decide to create a club in which human hunts are organized - members being alternately hunters, and prey, until they end up dead.

DEATH RACE:

Ex-con Jensen Ames is forced by the warden of a notorious prison to compete in our post-industrial world's most popular sport: a car race in which inmates must brutalize and kill one another on the road to victory.

DEATH RACE 2000:

In a dystopian future, a cross country automobile race requires contestants to run down innocent pedestrians to gain points that are tallied based on each kill's brutality.

brianlux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGwE-uDao7Q

pearljammr78

Let’s talk about the abortion that is the NFL. First week. A tie game. Great ending right. Except for everyone who paid top dollar for opening day tickets and both teams walk out with a consultation prize. For the amount these players and teams and all involved with the organization make, the very least you can do is have a winner. A tie. Fuck you NFL. 

AB. Cries his way outta Pittsburgh, fucks around on the Raiders. Cries. Gets released and gets a 9 million (15 million with incentives) pay day for not doing shit but being a spoiled bitch. Fuck you AB. 

How about after every play some asshole has to dance or run forward to show they did the job the are paid to do. Every fucking play. Offense and Defense. It gets old. Fuck you and your brand, players. 

As as long as the marketing and the hype machine is going strong, the NFL will continue to have ratings. The game is watered down, people come out with career ending injuries and permanent brain and other body damage. But I’m the good ol USA, if you don’t like football you must be a communist. Well paint me red, cause fuck the NFL. 

I know for someone who doesn’t care about sports I sure know what’s going on. Blame it on a treadmill and either ESPN or CNN or Fux Newz while the new Tool blasts in my headphones. Gotta burn off the pounds. Good thing my disgust of all 3 channels fuels the rage to power through the workout. 

The Juggler

pearljammr78 said:

Let’s talk about the abortion that is the NFL. First week. A tie game. Great ending right. Except for everyone who paid top dollar for opening day tickets and both teams walk out with a consultation prize. For the amount these players and teams and all involved with the organization make, the very least you can do is have a winner. A tie. Fuck you NFL. 

AB. Cries his way outta Pittsburgh, fucks around on the Raiders. Cries. Gets released and gets a 9 million (15 million with incentives) pay day for not doing shit but being a spoiled bitch. Fuck you AB. 

How about after every play some asshole has to dance or run forward to show they did the job the are paid to do. Every fucking play. Offense and Defense. It gets old. Fuck you and your brand, players. 

As as long as the marketing and the hype machine is going strong, the NFL will continue to have ratings. The game is watered down, people come out with career ending injuries and permanent brain and other body damage. But I’m the good ol USA, if you don’t like football you must be a communist. Well paint me red, cause fuck the NFL. 

I know for someone who doesn’t care about sports I sure know what’s going on. Blame it on a treadmill and either ESPN or CNN or Fux Newz while the new Tool blasts in my headphones. Gotta burn off the pounds. Good thing my disgust of all 3 channels fuels the rage to power through the workout. 

I was thoroughly entertained today. 

pjhawks

The Juggler said:

MayDay10 said:

Yeah, thats a good point.  Imagine bart starr trying to beat a calculated thoroughbred like stephon gilmore or pat Peterson 

Now imagine Dan Marino? I’m guessing the OP grew up in the 80’s or 90’s as opposed to the 60’s...

Marino would have numbers out of this world in today’s NFL

And yet you would want his team to run the ball  fifty percent of the time 👌

pjhawks

pearljammr78 said:

Let’s talk about the abortion that is the NFL. First week. A tie game. Great ending right. Except for everyone who paid top dollar for opening day tickets and both teams walk out with a consultation prize. For the amount these players and teams and all involved with the organization make, the very least you can do is have a winner. A tie. Fuck you NFL. 

AB. Cries his way outta Pittsburgh, fucks around on the Raiders. Cries. Gets released and gets a 9 million (15 million with incentives) pay day for not doing shit but being a spoiled bitch. Fuck you AB. 

How about after every play some asshole has to dance or run forward to show they did the job the are paid to do. Every fucking play. Offense and Defense. It gets old. Fuck you and your brand, players. 

As as long as the marketing and the hype machine is going strong, the NFL will continue to have ratings. The game is watered down, people come out with career ending injuries and permanent brain and other body damage. But I’m the good ol USA, if you don’t like football you must be a communist. Well paint me red, cause fuck the NFL. 

I know for someone who doesn’t care about sports I sure know what’s going on. Blame it on a treadmill and either ESPN or CNN or Fux Newz while the new Tool blasts in my headphones. Gotta burn off the pounds. Good thing my disgust of all 3 channels fuels the rage to power through the workout. 

You sound angry, chill. It’s all good if you don’t like sports anymore or especially the nfl. Millions still enjoy it.

i think tool sucks balls but doesn’t mean a lot of people don’t enjoy them.  For those that like tool have fun with it

The Juggler

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

MayDay10 said:

Yeah, thats a good point.  Imagine bart starr trying to beat a calculated thoroughbred like stephon gilmore or pat Peterson 

Now imagine Dan Marino? I’m guessing the OP grew up in the 80’s or 90’s as opposed to the 60’s...

Marino would have numbers out of this world in today’s NFL

And yet you would want his team to run the ball  fifty percent of the time 👌

40%. 

mace1229

brianlux said:

I think if sports haven't gone on the decline already (my guess is they have) they probably will in the not-to-distant future because the number of kids participating in team sports is on the decline (easily verified by various articles on line).  If the big money that is in sports want to keep it's revenue flowing, they will have to start catering to the tastes of the public.  And those tastes are leaning more an more toward things that are brutal and violent (also easily verified).  That means that some of the scenarios depicted in futuristic movies may prove to not be so far fetched in the future.  Here are some example with synopses take from IMDB:

ROLLERBALL:

In a corporate-controlled future, an ultra-violent sport known as Rollerball represents the world, and one of its powerful athletes is out to defy those who want him out of the game.

THE BLOOD OF HEROES:

In a future, where most of mankind and technology is wiped out, 6 people travel from place to place playing a brutal form of football with a dog skull. They hope one day to play in the league in a city.

THE 10TH VICTIM:

Some people like violence so much, that they decide to create a club in which human hunts are organized - members being alternately hunters, and prey, until they end up dead.

DEATH RACE:

Ex-con Jensen Ames is forced by the warden of a notorious prison to compete in our post-industrial world's most popular sport: a car race in which inmates must brutalize and kill one another on the road to victory.

DEATH RACE 2000:

In a dystopian future, a cross country automobile race requires contestants to run down innocent pedestrians to gain points that are tallied based on each kill's brutality.

But aren’t sports themselves becoming less violent? Every year there’s new safety rules and regulations for the NFL and other sports. 
I wouldn’t be surprised if football for kids was banned under the age of 13 or something in the next 10 years. And hasn’t interest in UFC dropped dramatically in the last 10 years? While tastes may be more brutal in some areas, I don’t see that with sports. 

tempo_n_groove

mace1229 said:

Back to the original question. It’s a weird state, people seem to know more about sports with the internet and fantasy leagues, but attendance and viewership does seem down. The World Series seemed as big as the super bowl when I was growing up, now you can go to the grocery store on game 7 and half the people don’t even know the World Series is on.
I think sports has become too overblown. I don’t care if you’re the best pitcher in the world, we pay them way too much. And that college football coaches are the highest paid public employees on our country is a joke to me. Athletes and coaches could still make a killing getting paid 1/10 what they currently do. 

I'll  say this about fantasy leagues, everyone thinks they are an expert now.

I had a conversation with someone who was doing fantasy NBA and he told me that certain players were better than others and I told him he was nuts.  He had statistics and Fantasy experience to back it up...

Told him to watch a fucking game closer and then tell me who's better.  Stats can't show you whom is a lockdown defender or sets a pick perfectly or disrupts a play and turn it into a fast break.

JojoRice

As far as professional sports go, I find myself being less and less interested.  I had Atlanta Falcons season tickets for about 10 years and now I hardly watch anything NFL wise.  It's become too much of a money driven league and too political.  

eddiec

JojoRice said:

As far as professional sports go, I find myself being less and less interested.  I had Atlanta Falcons season tickets for about 10 years and now I hardly watch anything NFL wise.  It's become too much of a money driven league and too political.  

For as long as I can remember it forced patriotism down our throats, but that's for another thread.

pearljammr78

The whole NFL is forced down your throat. Right after the Super Bowl ends it’s months of draft coverage and non stop football news and predictions. Such a waste of time. But it sells and people are sheep that will buy whatever is “cool”. I’m glad I don’t waste my Sundays in front of a tv anymore. 

The Juggler

pearljammr78 said:

The whole NFL is forced down your throat. Right after the Super Bowl ends it’s months of draft coverage and non stop football news and predictions. Such a waste of time. But it sells and people are sheep that will buy whatever is “cool”. I’m glad I don’t waste my Sundays in front of a tv anymore. 

So...not dying? 

Lol

pearljammr78

Everything’s dying. Lol

BF89905

I've watched a lot more NBA basketball over the past five years than NHL hockey, which I had watched for the previous thirty years. I watch the English Premier League on Saturdays when there's a momentary break from parenting responsibilities. MLB and the NFL have never / will never catch my attention.