Where would you rather live the US or Sweden

mickeyrat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

So go ahead tell me “ If you don’t like it here leave “ that’s the new American motto...

Sweden is different.  If you don't like it there, they lock you up for 3 weeks without charging you with a crime and won't let you leave.

Factually untrue. 

If you come to the US border though there is a  risk you will be locked up in a cage, raped or die in the hands of ’murica

If you go to Sweden you will be raped (high rates), locked up committing no crime and they will try to get you to conform but making you a giant douchebag.

So you are saying beating someone up in group is not a crime. Nice to know. Rather go by the swedish definition of assault than yours. 

Also, isnt being labeled a ”douchebag” by a rightwinger a badge Of honour?

I’m saying not being charged with a crime before being locked up for weeks is criminal in itself.

Which rightwinger called you a douchebag? You should throw them in jail as you take 3 weeks to do what they do in 48-72 hours in a civilized society.

What is the different between "charged" and "indicted" ?

generally the police will charge you with a crime if they believe they have the supporting evidence. the prosecution will then determine whether an indictment will be sought from grand jury or the charges dropped for whatever reason.  all part of due process.....

mrussel1

U.S.A.

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

Enjoying my American made Tito s vodka tonight. 

What do you think of Absolut?

mid shelf Vodka, although the flavored goes okay with lemonade in the summer.  The best vodka is Chopin, followed by Belvedere.  Potato vodka, all the way. 

Never had Chopin, will have to try it. Belvedere is good but I prefer ketel.  The goose is a rip off. 

Chopin is expensive, a few bucks more than Belvedere.  Definitely don't mix it.  It's for martinis and other drinks that are almost pure vodka, or shots like back in the old country.  I"m not a fan of Grey Goose either, but that's because it's a grain or wheat vodka, like Ketel. I believe Tito's is corn. They are all good, but you're right that Grey Goose is overpriced.  It's more in line with Titos, Ketel and Absolut's of the world.  These are all distilled with rye, wheat, grain or something else.  I like the taste of potato vodka.  It has a slight sweetness to it, and it's ultra smooth.  Give Chopin a try.  It's definitely better than Belv. 

Thoughts_Arrive

Sweden because @Annafalk lives there.

Meltdown99

Canada

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Sweden because @Annafalk lives there.

I’d love to live in Australia for a year or 2...

I now think visiting Sweden would be cool...so many places to visit but not enough cash..

these dats the best I can hope for is a night in Detroit...

Thoughts_Arrive

Meltdown99 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Sweden because @Annafalk lives there.

I’d love to live in Australia for a year or 2...

I now think visiting Sweden would be cool...so many places to visit but not enough cash..

these dats the best I can hope for is a night in Detroit...

I want to live in Fish Creek, Victoria. 

Annafalk

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Sweden because @Annafalk lives there.

Australia, Canada, The USA, all great countries that would be fun to live in. They have all so much to offer. If I’m lucky one day I can come and visit

Thoughts_Arrive

Annafalk said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Sweden because @Annafalk lives there.

Australia, Canada, The USA, all great countries that would be fun to live in. They have all so much to offer. If I’m lucky one day I can come and visit

All of Scandinavia looks nice.

Annafalk

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Annafalk said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Sweden because @Annafalk lives there.

Australia, Canada, The USA, all great countries that would be fun to live in. They have all so much to offer. If I’m lucky one day I can come and visit

All of Scandinavia looks nice.

I think the spectacular nature is in Norway on the north coastline. I would love to take a trip with the ship Hurtigruten one day or go hiking in the mountains/fjords. I would also like to visit Iceland one day to see their nature. There’s so much out there to see in the world.

Spiritual_Chaos

Canada

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

So go ahead tell me “ If you don’t like it here leave “ that’s the new American motto...

Sweden is different.  If you don't like it there, they lock you up for 3 weeks without charging you with a crime and won't let you leave.

Factually untrue. 

If you come to the US border though there is a  risk you will be locked up in a cage, raped or die in the hands of ’murica

If you go to Sweden you will be raped (high rates), locked up committing no crime and they will try to get you to conform but making you a giant douchebag.

Locked up committing No crime you say? 3 weeks you say?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks

cincybearcat

U.S.A.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

So go ahead tell me “ If you don’t like it here leave “ that’s the new American motto...

Sweden is different.  If you don't like it there, they lock you up for 3 weeks without charging you with a crime and won't let you leave.

Factually untrue. 

If you come to the US border though there is a  risk you will be locked up in a cage, raped or die in the hands of ’murica

If you go to Sweden you will be raped (high rates), locked up committing no crime and they will try to get you to conform but making you a giant douchebag.

Locked up committing No crime you say? 3 weeks you say?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks

The big difference? I think that is crap and unacceptable. As do many Americans.

Spiritual_Chaos

Canada

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

So go ahead tell me “ If you don’t like it here leave “ that’s the new American motto...

Sweden is different.  If you don't like it there, they lock you up for 3 weeks without charging you with a crime and won't let you leave.

Factually untrue. 

If you come to the US border though there is a  risk you will be locked up in a cage, raped or die in the hands of ’murica

If you go to Sweden you will be raped (high rates), locked up committing no crime and they will try to get you to conform but making you a giant douchebag.

Locked up committing No crime you say? 3 weeks you say?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks

The big difference? I think that is crap and unacceptable. As do many Americans.

How can it even be allowed to happen?

Spiritual_Chaos

Canada

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

So go ahead tell me “ If you don’t like it here leave “ that’s the new American motto...

Sweden is different.  If you don't like it there, they lock you up for 3 weeks without charging you with a crime and won't let you leave.

Factually untrue. 

If you come to the US border though there is a  risk you will be locked up in a cage, raped or die in the hands of ’murica

If you go to Sweden you will be raped (high rates), locked up committing no crime and they will try to get you to conform but making you a giant douchebag.

So you are saying beating someone up in group is not a crime. Nice to know. Rather go by the swedish definition of assault than yours. 

Also, isnt being labeled a ”douchebag” by a rightwinger a badge Of honour?

I’m saying not being charged with a crime before being locked up for weeks is criminal in itself.

Which rightwinger called you a douchebag? You should throw them in jail as you take 3 weeks to do what they do in 48-72 hours in a civilized society.

What is the different between "charged" and "indicted" ?

generally the police will charge you with a crime if they believe they have the supporting evidence. the prosecution will then determine whether an indictment will be sought from grand jury or the charges dropped for whatever reason.  all part of due process.....

Okey, in Sweden the police can only arrest (GRIPA) someone (12 hours at the most). It is a prosecutor who decides if the person is to be detained further (ANHÅLLEN) but at most 3 days. After 3 days, to have the person detained further HÄKTAD, the prosecutor put forth the reasons/evidence to a COURT that decides if there are probably grounds for HÄKTA (charge?) or not. And then the prosecutor from what the investigation into that person shows decides to drop the suspicion charges or go to trial. Or a court decides that there are no probably grounds for HÄKTNING anymore and the suspect will be released.

For the tenth time @cincybearcat :

THE COURT may, at the request of the prosecutor, decide on HÄKTNING. The HÄKTNING/detention hearing takes place in court, no later than four days after the arrest. There should be PROBABLY REASONS/GROUNDS why the suspect has committed a crime that can give imprisonment for at least one year. In addition, there must be a risk that the suspect deviates, continues to commit crimes or destroys the criminal investigation.


Except for some US people in here not getting (or playing that they don't get it) that the justice system or perhaps the word "charge" isn't 1:1 the same all over the world, I fail to see the big difference. Except for us not basing our system on the one who can pay bail or not, us not having a monetary bail system. And try to have a society not completely built around those who have $, and those who don't.

As I said a few pages back, this could all be a semantics error.

Spiritual_Chaos

Canada

https://youtu.be/FcWS4qx4Qvo

cincybearcat

U.S.A.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

So go ahead tell me “ If you don’t like it here leave “ that’s the new American motto...

Sweden is different.  If you don't like it there, they lock you up for 3 weeks without charging you with a crime and won't let you leave.

Factually untrue. 

If you come to the US border though there is a  risk you will be locked up in a cage, raped or die in the hands of ’murica

If you go to Sweden you will be raped (high rates), locked up committing no crime and they will try to get you to conform but making you a giant douchebag.

Locked up committing No crime you say? 3 weeks you say?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks

The big difference? I think that is crap and unacceptable. As do many Americans.

How can it even be allowed to happen?

Because no one and no place is perfect. 

Thoughts_Arrive

Annafalk said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Annafalk said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Sweden because @Annafalk lives there.

Australia, Canada, The USA, all great countries that would be fun to live in. They have all so much to offer. If I’m lucky one day I can come and visit

All of Scandinavia looks nice.

I think the spectacular nature is in Norway on the north coastline. I would love to take a trip with the ship Hurtigruten one day or go hiking in the mountains/fjords. I would also like to visit Iceland one day to see their nature. There’s so much out there to see in the world.

Plus there's the northern lights I want to see up your way. I wish I can see the world one day.

josevolution

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks lol it happens here too no crime no charges ..

mrussel1

U.S.A.

josevolution said:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks lol it happens here too no crime no charges ..

Yes, but he'll have a legal case against ICE for violating his 4th amendment rights.  

Spiritual_Chaos

Canada

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks lol it happens here too no crime no charges ..

Yes, but he'll have a legal case against ICE for violating his 4th amendment rights.  

What can the kids who have died at the border do?

mrussel1

U.S.A.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

josevolution said:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks lol it happens here too no crime no charges ..

Yes, but he'll have a legal case against ICE for violating his 4th amendment rights.  

What can the kids who have died at the border do?

Try to be normal for a full day.  You were almost there. 

brianlux

Anywhere other than planet earth

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I doubt @mcgruff10 can handle this comment without comparing to Sweden but it is pretty freaking scary that you can be forced to marry someone at 12 years old.  That is insane.

That's misleading.  It's a state law thing, and the low ones are typically KY, WV, etc.  These rather backward states.  In VA, it is 18 unless the person is legally emancipated, and then it's 16.  If they aren't emancipated, 18.  

File under "Bullshit I saw on FaceBook but ignored the fine print".