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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,271
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Trump is your problem, not ours..and for God's sake, have you lost your humor or you never had??..
    really, i can understand your fear..really..
    i do not joke about trump being president again. we all lived through it. we all remember it. he will not go the fuck away, and people in other countries like you find it funny. its not funny to us.

    don't think a person like him can't come to power in your country, because it can happen. especially when 35% of the population is stupid and racist.
    35% οf the population which country??..a few years ago my fellow citizens brought neo-nazis to the parliament..this offends me as a Greek..
    35% of americans. ie the maga block.

    yeah you all better do something about those neo nazis before they start implementing their plans.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,271
    edited January 8
    what a profoundly stupid man. 

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,455
    mace1229 said:
    I can't stand either of these guys. Kimmel has always been terrible and unfunny. And Rodgers has always been an insufferable douche. I was saying this long before most people, who have just turned on him in recent years.

    That said, Kimmel would have no court case here. Rodgers said Kimmel doesn't want the list coming out. Sure, the implication is that he's on the list, but he didn't say that. And, there is some evidence (at least in a Rodgers legal defense) that, even if Kimmel isn't on the list, he doesn't want it coming out....

    Rodgers made reference to wanting to see the list on the Pat McAfee show a few months ago. He didn't mention Kimmel or anybody else. This led to Kimmel talking about it on his show. Not making jokes of course but he's not funny. But rather, just shouting down Rodgers. Kimmel called him a "wack Packer" and suggested he go back to the concussion protocol. Just for bringing up the Epstein list? If he had jokes, it'd be one thing. But it was more a "Look at this crazy man talking about the Epstein list! Look how crazy he is!" 

    Further, it's a fact that Kimmel was friends with Epstein's personal chef, Adam Perry Lang. Lang was actually once arrested at a house Kimmel owns. So that's another thing that can back up "Kimmel doesn't want the list coming out"  just because you can argue he wouldn't want to have his friend's possible misdeeds made public.

    Legality of this alleged "slander" aside, Rodgers looks like such a loser. He's going to "pop a bottle" when the list comes out? Get a life. This season has been a bit of a preview of what his post-playing career will be like, and it looks pretty pathetic. The thing about Rodgers that I've been saying for over 10 years, but people have only just caught on, is that he thinks he's smart, funny, and cool, and he's none of these things. Not unlike Kimmel actually. These two are made for each other. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,455
    what a profoundly stupid man. 

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    hahaha...that is fantastic
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,333
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,754
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    Trump is your problem, not ours..and for God's sake, have you lost your humor or you never had??..
    really, i can understand your fear..really..
    i do not joke about trump being president again. we all lived through it. we all remember it. he will not go the fuck away, and people in other countries like you find it funny. its not funny to us.

    don't think a person like him can't come to power in your country, because it can happen. especially when 35% of the population is stupid and racist.
    35% οf the population which country??..a few years ago my fellow citizens brought neo-nazis to the parliament..this offends me as a Greek..
    35% of americans. ie the maga block.

    yeah you all better do something about those neo nazis before they start implementing their plans.
    Only 35%??..
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,368
    mace1229 said:
    I can't stand either of these guys. Kimmel has always been terrible and unfunny. And Rodgers has always been an insufferable douche. I was saying this long before most people, who have just turned on him in recent years.

    That said, Kimmel would have no court case here. Rodgers said Kimmel doesn't want the list coming out. Sure, the implication is that he's on the list, but he didn't say that. And, there is some evidence (at least in a Rodgers legal defense) that, even if Kimmel isn't on the list, he doesn't want it coming out....

    Rodgers made reference to wanting to see the list on the Pat McAfee show a few months ago. He didn't mention Kimmel or anybody else. This led to Kimmel talking about it on his show. Not making jokes of course but he's not funny. But rather, just shouting down Rodgers. Kimmel called him a "wack Packer" and suggested he go back to the concussion protocol. Just for bringing up the Epstein list? If he had jokes, it'd be one thing. But it was more a "Look at this crazy man talking about the Epstein list! Look how crazy he is!" 

    Further, it's a fact that Kimmel was friends with Epstein's personal chef, Adam Perry Lang. Lang was actually once arrested at a house Kimmel owns. So that's another thing that can back up "Kimmel doesn't want the list coming out"  just because you can argue he wouldn't want to have his friend's possible misdeeds made public.

    Legality of this alleged "slander" aside, Rodgers looks like such a loser. He's going to "pop a bottle" when the list comes out? Get a life. This season has been a bit of a preview of what his post-playing career will be like, and it looks pretty pathetic. The thing about Rodgers that I've been saying for over 10 years, but people have only just caught on, is that he thinks he's smart, funny, and cool, and he's none of these things. Not unlike Kimmel actually. These two are made for each other. 
    Kimmel peaked in Win Ben Steins Money.
    rodgers peaked as a packer.
    lol that was only last year...
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,368
    mickeyrat said:
    THIS is what i hope is uncovered.  Ruin all of these people.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,271
    mickeyrat said:
    THIS is what i hope is uncovered.  Ruin all of these people.
    would take a lot of courage for her to come out and testify. trump's minions would absolutely try to intimidate, harass, or even harm her.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,968
    mickeyrat said:
    THIS is what i hope is uncovered.  Ruin all of these people.
    would take a lot of courage for her to come out and testify. trump's minions would absolutely try to intimidate, harass, or even harm her.
    Not to mention that you’re, general you, not going to “ruin” them. They’re impervious to being ruined at this point as they’ve all lived a full, rich life and don’t feel shame. Anything less than dying in prison is not “ruining” them, particularly in light of solid evidence that would result in a conviction. Hope it happens if they’re guilty, which I suspect they are, but I doubt they’ll ever see the inside of a courtroom, let alone a prison cell.
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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,347
    23scidoo said:

    To be honest and without offense you, i like him to be the president..it so much fun for the rest of the world and again, he will confirm our opinion about the Americans.. ;)
    What a myopic viewpoint. With Poland, Italy, France, Hungary and others getting closer to the brink of authoritarianism by the minute, I don't understand how anybody in Europe would cheer on fascisty politics in a country that is still one of the world's leaders. Everybody should root for democracy and the defeat of these tendencies in the US because when it flames up here, it will make its run around the rest of the western world. Shit has already started, and Greece won't be spared no matter what you think.

    Getting back to topic, I wish they would stop making this whole thing such a mystery. Prosecute all that should be.


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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,754
    23scidoo said:

    To be honest and without offense you, i like him to be the president..it so much fun for the rest of the world and again, he will confirm our opinion about the Americans.. ;)
    What a myopic viewpoint. With Poland, Italy, France, Hungary and others getting closer to the brink of authoritarianism by the minute, I don't understand how anybody in Europe would cheer on fascisty politics in a country that is still one of the world's leaders. Everybody should root for democracy and the defeat of these tendencies in the US because when it flames up here, it will make its run around the rest of the western world. Shit has already started, and Greece won't be spared no matter what you think.

    Getting back to topic, I wish they would stop making this whole thing such a mystery. Prosecute all that should be.


    But they have democracy and THEY VOTE for him, he is not taking the White House by tanks..that's my point view for them..
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,368
    mickeyrat said:
    THIS is what i hope is uncovered.  Ruin all of these people.
    would take a lot of courage for her to come out and testify. trump's minions would absolutely try to intimidate, harass, or even harm her.
    Not to mention that you’re, general you, not going to “ruin” them. They’re impervious to being ruined at this point as they’ve all lived a full, rich life and don’t feel shame. Anything less than dying in prison is not “ruining” them, particularly in light of solid evidence that would result in a conviction. Hope it happens if they’re guilty, which I suspect they are, but I doubt they’ll ever see the inside of a courtroom, let alone a prison cell.
    Epstien offing himself and his helper getting prison time is not enough as far as I'm concerned.

    Where are these crusaders for human trafficking?  I'm shocked that people w more pull aren't pulling strings also.

    Where are these "tapes"?  Maybe thats where the P tape is?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,968
    mickeyrat said:
    THIS is what i hope is uncovered.  Ruin all of these people.
    would take a lot of courage for her to come out and testify. trump's minions would absolutely try to intimidate, harass, or even harm her.
    Not to mention that you’re, general you, not going to “ruin” them. They’re impervious to being ruined at this point as they’ve all lived a full, rich life and don’t feel shame. Anything less than dying in prison is not “ruining” them, particularly in light of solid evidence that would result in a conviction. Hope it happens if they’re guilty, which I suspect they are, but I doubt they’ll ever see the inside of a courtroom, let alone a prison cell.
    Epstien offing himself and his helper getting prison time is not enough as far as I'm concerned.

    Where are these crusaders for human trafficking?  I'm shocked that people w more pull aren't pulling strings also.

    Where are these "tapes"?  Maybe thats where the P tape is?
    The PTAPE is with Putin on the ritz. POOTWH’s copy is buried with Ivana at Bedtheminister. All the other sex tapes of repub leadership are in a safe at Mar-I-Lieo.

    Regarding the perps that we know about, Clinton, Prince Andrew, Branson, Dershowitz, POOTWH, and any others, what do you suggest? A criminal trial requires an investigation, gathering of evidence, cooperating witnesses and is hampered by the passage of time, pertaining laws, jurisdiction, etc. All of which takes time and by the time all is said and done, most of the perps are likely to be in their 80s and either feeble and demented or dead. Don’t get me wrong, if crimes were committed, they should be tried. But ruining them? They’re at life’s end. Even prison at this point won’t “ruin” them.

    The time to have “ruined” them is when Epstein had the sweet deal of spending nights and weekends in jail with a slap on the wrist and that DA or AGs agreement is what should be investigated and prosecuted. They had an opportunity to hold everyone accountable and blew it. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,455
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:

    To be honest and without offense you, i like him to be the president..it so much fun for the rest of the world and again, he will confirm our opinion about the Americans.. ;)
    What a myopic viewpoint. With Poland, Italy, France, Hungary and others getting closer to the brink of authoritarianism by the minute, I don't understand how anybody in Europe would cheer on fascisty politics in a country that is still one of the world's leaders. Everybody should root for democracy and the defeat of these tendencies in the US because when it flames up here, it will make its run around the rest of the western world. Shit has already started, and Greece won't be spared no matter what you think.

    Getting back to topic, I wish they would stop making this whole thing such a mystery. Prosecute all that should be.


    But they have democracy and THEY VOTE for him, he is not taking the White House by tanks..that's my point view for them..
    You have made some questionable comments about this over the last few days. Don't you think if he could use tanks he would? His lawyers argued in court yesterday that a president is immune to literally any crime what so ever so long as if he can convince 35 senators not to vote to impeach him.

    And, as you may recall, he literally tried to stay in power by all means available to him three years ago this week, including, ultimately, having his supporters storm the capitol in insurrection that resulted in multiple people dying. 

    I am not sure you are paying close enough attention to the matter you keep commenting on. 
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,368
    mickeyrat said:
    THIS is what i hope is uncovered.  Ruin all of these people.
    would take a lot of courage for her to come out and testify. trump's minions would absolutely try to intimidate, harass, or even harm her.
    Not to mention that you’re, general you, not going to “ruin” them. They’re impervious to being ruined at this point as they’ve all lived a full, rich life and don’t feel shame. Anything less than dying in prison is not “ruining” them, particularly in light of solid evidence that would result in a conviction. Hope it happens if they’re guilty, which I suspect they are, but I doubt they’ll ever see the inside of a courtroom, let alone a prison cell.
    Epstien offing himself and his helper getting prison time is not enough as far as I'm concerned.

    Where are these crusaders for human trafficking?  I'm shocked that people w more pull aren't pulling strings also.

    Where are these "tapes"?  Maybe thats where the P tape is?
    The PTAPE is with Putin on the ritz. POOTWH’s copy is buried with Ivana at Bedtheminister. All the other sex tapes of repub leadership are in a safe at Mar-I-Lieo.

    Regarding the perps that we know about, Clinton, Prince Andrew, Branson, Dershowitz, POOTWH, and any others, what do you suggest? A criminal trial requires an investigation, gathering of evidence, cooperating witnesses and is hampered by the passage of time, pertaining laws, jurisdiction, etc. All of which takes time and by the time all is said and done, most of the perps are likely to be in their 80s and either feeble and demented or dead. Don’t get me wrong, if crimes were committed, they should be tried. But ruining them? They’re at life’s end. Even prison at this point won’t “ruin” them.

    The time to have “ruined” them is when Epstein had the sweet deal of spending nights and weekends in jail with a slap on the wrist and that DA or AGs agreement is what should be investigated and prosecuted. They had an opportunity to hold everyone accountable and blew it. 
    Prison at any age is a horrible place to be.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,968
    mickeyrat said:
    THIS is what i hope is uncovered.  Ruin all of these people.
    would take a lot of courage for her to come out and testify. trump's minions would absolutely try to intimidate, harass, or even harm her.
    Not to mention that you’re, general you, not going to “ruin” them. They’re impervious to being ruined at this point as they’ve all lived a full, rich life and don’t feel shame. Anything less than dying in prison is not “ruining” them, particularly in light of solid evidence that would result in a conviction. Hope it happens if they’re guilty, which I suspect they are, but I doubt they’ll ever see the inside of a courtroom, let alone a prison cell.
    Epstien offing himself and his helper getting prison time is not enough as far as I'm concerned.

    Where are these crusaders for human trafficking?  I'm shocked that people w more pull aren't pulling strings also.

    Where are these "tapes"?  Maybe thats where the P tape is?
    The PTAPE is with Putin on the ritz. POOTWH’s copy is buried with Ivana at Bedtheminister. All the other sex tapes of repub leadership are in a safe at Mar-I-Lieo.

    Regarding the perps that we know about, Clinton, Prince Andrew, Branson, Dershowitz, POOTWH, and any others, what do you suggest? A criminal trial requires an investigation, gathering of evidence, cooperating witnesses and is hampered by the passage of time, pertaining laws, jurisdiction, etc. All of which takes time and by the time all is said and done, most of the perps are likely to be in their 80s and either feeble and demented or dead. Don’t get me wrong, if crimes were committed, they should be tried. But ruining them? They’re at life’s end. Even prison at this point won’t “ruin” them.

    The time to have “ruined” them is when Epstein had the sweet deal of spending nights and weekends in jail with a slap on the wrist and that DA or AGs agreement is what should be investigated and prosecuted. They had an opportunity to hold everyone accountable and blew it. 
    Prison at any age is a horrible place to be.
    Agreed but when what amount of that time comes at the end of a rich, scummy life of privilege, I don’t consider it “ruining” them. Put them in prison and seize all their wealth to give to programs that support those abused by sex trafficking and ensure their legacy is one of shame. But then again they’re either sociopaths and/or narcissists so shame has no effect. I really don’t know what it would take to “ruin” these scumbags.
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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,347
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:

    To be honest and without offense you, i like him to be the president..it so much fun for the rest of the world and again, he will confirm our opinion about the Americans.. ;)
    What a myopic viewpoint. With Poland, Italy, France, Hungary and others getting closer to the brink of authoritarianism by the minute, I don't understand how anybody in Europe would cheer on fascisty politics in a country that is still one of the world's leaders. Everybody should root for democracy and the defeat of these tendencies in the US because when it flames up here, it will make its run around the rest of the western world. Shit has already started, and Greece won't be spared no matter what you think.

    Getting back to topic, I wish they would stop making this whole thing such a mystery. Prosecute all that should be.


    But they have democracy and THEY VOTE for him, he is not taking the White House by tanks..that's my point view for them..
    You have made some questionable comments about this over the last few days. Don't you think if he could use tanks he would? His lawyers argued in court yesterday that a president is immune to literally any crime what so ever so long as if he can convince 35 senators not to vote to impeach him.

    And, as you may recall, he literally tried to stay in power by all means available to him three years ago this week, including, ultimately, having his supporters storm the capitol in insurrection that resulted in multiple people dying. 

    I am not sure you are paying close enough attention to the matter you keep commenting on. 

    Agreeing with Juggler here. Also @23scidoo when 45 first got into the WH, the other candidate had way more votes than him. But in the US, the presidential election is not 1 person 1 vote. It is more complicated than that. I actually partially became a citizen to be able to help voting this turd out. Along with many others. You cannot put all Americans under one umbrella.

    Back to topic... I hope something more comes of that Sarah Ransome thing.
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,754
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:

    To be honest and without offense you, i like him to be the president..it so much fun for the rest of the world and again, he will confirm our opinion about the Americans.. ;)
    What a myopic viewpoint. With Poland, Italy, France, Hungary and others getting closer to the brink of authoritarianism by the minute, I don't understand how anybody in Europe would cheer on fascisty politics in a country that is still one of the world's leaders. Everybody should root for democracy and the defeat of these tendencies in the US because when it flames up here, it will make its run around the rest of the western world. Shit has already started, and Greece won't be spared no matter what you think.

    Getting back to topic, I wish they would stop making this whole thing such a mystery. Prosecute all that should be.


    But they have democracy and THEY VOTE for him, he is not taking the White House by tanks..that's my point view for them..
    You have made some questionable comments about this over the last few days. Don't you think if he could use tanks he would? His lawyers argued in court yesterday that a president is immune to literally any crime what so ever so long as if he can convince 35 senators not to vote to impeach him.

    And, as you may recall, he literally tried to stay in power by all means available to him three years ago this week, including, ultimately, having his supporters storm the capitol in insurrection that resulted in multiple people dying. 

    I am not sure you are paying close enough attention to the matter you keep commenting on. 
    ''And, as you may recall, he literally tried to stay in power by all means available to him three years ago this week''..
    and this is another of my questions.. in which serious country would this happen??..In which serious country with democratic procedures, this man would not be behind bars now??..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,754
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:

    To be honest and without offense you, i like him to be the president..it so much fun for the rest of the world and again, he will confirm our opinion about the Americans.. ;)
    What a myopic viewpoint. With Poland, Italy, France, Hungary and others getting closer to the brink of authoritarianism by the minute, I don't understand how anybody in Europe would cheer on fascisty politics in a country that is still one of the world's leaders. Everybody should root for democracy and the defeat of these tendencies in the US because when it flames up here, it will make its run around the rest of the western world. Shit has already started, and Greece won't be spared no matter what you think.

    Getting back to topic, I wish they would stop making this whole thing such a mystery. Prosecute all that should be.


    But they have democracy and THEY VOTE for him, he is not taking the White House by tanks..that's my point view for them..
    You have made some questionable comments about this over the last few days. Don't you think if he could use tanks he would? His lawyers argued in court yesterday that a president is immune to literally any crime what so ever so long as if he can convince 35 senators not to vote to impeach him.

    And, as you may recall, he literally tried to stay in power by all means available to him three years ago this week, including, ultimately, having his supporters storm the capitol in insurrection that resulted in multiple people dying. 

    I am not sure you are paying close enough attention to the matter you keep commenting on. 

    Agreeing with Juggler here. Also @23scidoo when 45 first got into the WH, the other candidate had way more votes than him. But in the US, the presidential election is not 1 person 1 vote. It is more complicated than that. I actually partially became a citizen to be able to help voting this turd out. Along with many others. You cannot put all Americans under one umbrella.

    Back to topic... I hope something more comes of that Sarah Ransome thing.
    I am not one of those people who draw general conclusions..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,455
    edited January 11
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:

    To be honest and without offense you, i like him to be the president..it so much fun for the rest of the world and again, he will confirm our opinion about the Americans.. ;)
    What a myopic viewpoint. With Poland, Italy, France, Hungary and others getting closer to the brink of authoritarianism by the minute, I don't understand how anybody in Europe would cheer on fascisty politics in a country that is still one of the world's leaders. Everybody should root for democracy and the defeat of these tendencies in the US because when it flames up here, it will make its run around the rest of the western world. Shit has already started, and Greece won't be spared no matter what you think.

    Getting back to topic, I wish they would stop making this whole thing such a mystery. Prosecute all that should be.


    But they have democracy and THEY VOTE for him, he is not taking the White House by tanks..that's my point view for them..
    You have made some questionable comments about this over the last few days. Don't you think if he could use tanks he would? His lawyers argued in court yesterday that a president is immune to literally any crime what so ever so long as if he can convince 35 senators not to vote to impeach him.

    And, as you may recall, he literally tried to stay in power by all means available to him three years ago this week, including, ultimately, having his supporters storm the capitol in insurrection that resulted in multiple people dying. 

    I am not sure you are paying close enough attention to the matter you keep commenting on. 
    ''And, as you may recall, he literally tried to stay in power by all means available to him three years ago this week''..
    and this is another of my questions.. in which serious country would this happen??..In which serious country with democratic procedures, this man would not be behind bars now??..
    Sir, he has been indicted 4 times and the trials have not started yet. I wish it was faster but we have due process that we follow in this country.

    Do you want him thrown in jail without having his day in court? That does not seem like a stance someone who claims to be a proponent of democracies would take. 

    On one hand you are hoping he gets elected, in which case he can have his indictments thrown out....on the other hand you are reprimanding us for not just throwing him in jail already. 

    You are a conundrum wrapped in a riddle. 


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