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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Did you allow your children to get shots when they were a few hours old?
    Did you cut your children's feet off to have them not worrying about what shoes to buy growing up?
    No but all four of my sons are circumcised.   Sometimes as a parent you make a decision on what you think will be the best outcome of your kids. How about your kids?
    I would not mutilate my children and violate their right to their own healthy body by some stupid tradition - no. 

    I do not have that right.

    And I find it absurd that in the year of the christ 2019, some people seem to feel they do have that right, and have not woken up and even reflected on it.
    If you do decide to have kids one day then you will realize that sometimes you as the adult have to make decisions for them.  

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,016
    edited June 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Did you allow your children to get shots when they were a few hours old?
    Did you cut your children's feet off to have them not worrying about what shoes to buy growing up?
    No but all four of my sons are circumcised.   Sometimes as a parent you make a decision on what you think will be the best outcome of your kids. How about your kids?
    I would not mutilate my children and violate their right to their own healthy body by some stupid tradition - no. 

    I do not have that right.

    And I find it absurd that in the year of the christ 2019, some people seem to feel they do have that right, and have not woken up and even reflected on it.
    If you do decide to have kids one day then you will realize that sometimes you as the adult have to make decisions for them.  

    Ofcourse.

    Needless mutilation of a child's body is not a decision needing to be made though. That's the point. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,016
    Dee Snider plays a free show here in town on the 26th. Go to that or watch the debate... hmm...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    edited June 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Did you allow your children to get shots when they were a few hours old?
    Did you cut your children's feet off to have them not worrying about what shoes to buy growing up?
    No but all four of my sons are circumcised.   Sometimes as a parent you make a decision on what you think will be the best outcome of your kids. How about your kids?
    I would not mutilate my children and violate their right to their own healthy body by some stupid tradition - no. 

    I do not have that right.

    And I find it absurd that in the year of the christ 2019, some people seem to feel they do have that right, and have not woken up and even reflected on it.
    If you do decide to have kids one day then you will realize that sometimes you as the adult have to make decisions for them.  

    Ofcourse.

    Needless mutilation of a child's body is not a decision needing to be made though. That's the point. 
    I don’t look at my junk and Think it is mutilated. Do people do that?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Did you allow your children to get shots when they were a few hours old?
    Did you cut your children's feet off to have them not worrying about what shoes to buy growing up?
    No but all four of my sons are circumcised.   Sometimes as a parent you make a decision on what you think will be the best outcome of your kids. How about your kids?
    I would not mutilate my children and violate their right to their own healthy body by some stupid tradition - no. 

    I do not have that right.

    And I find it absurd that in the year of the christ 2019, some people seem to feel they do have that right, and have not woken up and even reflected on it.
    If you do decide to have kids one day then you will realize that sometimes you as the adult have to make decisions for them.  

    Ofcourse.

    Needless mutilation of a child's body is not a decision needing to be made though. That's the point. 
    I don’t look at my junk and Think it is mutilated. Do people do that?

    You admire the purple headed warrior. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,016
    edited June 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Did you allow your children to get shots when they were a few hours old?
    Did you cut your children's feet off to have them not worrying about what shoes to buy growing up?
    No but all four of my sons are circumcised.   Sometimes as a parent you make a decision on what you think will be the best outcome of your kids. How about your kids?
    I would not mutilate my children and violate their right to their own healthy body by some stupid tradition - no. 

    I do not have that right.

    And I find it absurd that in the year of the christ 2019, some people seem to feel they do have that right, and have not woken up and even reflected on it.
    If you do decide to have kids one day then you will realize that sometimes you as the adult have to make decisions for them.  

    Ofcourse.

    Needless mutilation of a child's body is not a decision needing to be made though. That's the point. 
    I don’t look at my junk and it is mutilated. Do people do that?

    Not a comment to really respond to.

    But hopefully your four boys will be open-minded and get some insights regarding the practice growing up, maybe with some help from american politics daring to move closer to a scandinavian model (Sanders 2002).

    Maybe in their lifetime health care will even be a human right?

    The mind is like a parachute, it only works when open - like Frank Zappa said.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Did you allow your children to get shots when they were a few hours old?
    Did you cut your children's feet off to have them not worrying about what shoes to buy growing up?
    No but all four of my sons are circumcised.   Sometimes as a parent you make a decision on what you think will be the best outcome of your kids. How about your kids?
    I would not mutilate my children and violate their right to their own healthy body by some stupid tradition - no. 

    I do not have that right.

    And I find it absurd that in the year of the christ 2019, some people seem to feel they do have that right, and have not woken up and even reflected on it.
    Please never have kids if you don't think you have the right to make health choices on their behalf. 
    In this century it's not a health choice, so again, dumb comparison.

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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Anyone comparing circumcision too vaccinations has no idea what they are talking about.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,016
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Did you allow your children to get shots when they were a few hours old?
    Did you cut your children's feet off to have them not worrying about what shoes to buy growing up?
    No but all four of my sons are circumcised.   Sometimes as a parent you make a decision on what you think will be the best outcome of your kids. How about your kids?
    I would not mutilate my children and violate their right to their own healthy body by some stupid tradition - no. 

    I do not have that right.

    And I find it absurd that in the year of the christ 2019, some people seem to feel they do have that right, and have not woken up and even reflected on it.
    Please never have kids if you don't think you have the right to make health choices on their behalf. 
    In this century it's not a health choice, so again, dumb comparison.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    dignin said:
    Anyone comparing circumcision too vaccinations has no idea what they are talking about.
    Got an MD degree? if not,  you're talking out your ass too. Decisions don't need to be equal in weight to be comparative. Unless you're arguing there's zero medical benefit,  then it's comparative.  
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    dignin said:
    Anyone comparing circumcision too vaccinations has no idea what they are talking about.
    How many sons did you say no to circumcision?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
    Haha, how old is your pediatrician? You can't even find a doctor who will circumcise babies here in my city. I guess they all must be idiots.

    It's only traditional at this point, no practical health benefits. 

    But that toque might kill ya!!
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
    Haha, how old is your pediatrician? You can't even find a doctor who will circumcise babies here in my city. I guess they all must be idiots.

    It's only traditional at this point, no practical health benefits. 

    But that toque might kill ya!!
    My pediatrician cared for my daughter who was delivered 11 weeks early at 2.5 lbs and spent the first seven weeks if her life in the NICU.  He was pretty good, thanks for asking.  

    So you don't have any Jewish people in your city?  Are you in Nuremberg?
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
    Haha, how old is your pediatrician? You can't even find a doctor who will circumcise babies here in my city. I guess they all must be idiots.

    It's only traditional at this point, no practical health benefits. 

    But that toque might kill ya!!
    So do you look at your junk and feel that you were mutilated? 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938
    As a victim of the barbarism that was the traditional Jewish Dick Snip, I can say I feel pretty fine about the decision. Even with a deep hatred and disrespect for religion, I’m cool with my parents doing what they thought was best given the innocuous nature of it. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    benjs said:
    As a victim of the barbarism that was the traditional Jewish Dick Snip, I can say I feel pretty fine about the decision. Even with a deep hatred and disrespect for religion, I’m cool with my parents doing what they thought was best given the innocuous nature of it. 
    And you have a fine looking flaccid penis now 
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    edited June 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Anyone comparing circumcision too vaccinations has no idea what they are talking about.
    Got an MD degree? if not,  you're talking out your ass too. Decisions don't need to be equal in weight to be comparative. Unless you're arguing there's zero medical benefit,  then it's comparative.  
    Wife has her PhD and has done some research on the subject. From my experience with her, she doesn't talk out of her ass.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,016
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
    Haha, how old is your pediatrician? You can't even find a doctor who will circumcise babies here in my city. I guess they all must be idiots.

    It's only traditional at this point, no practical health benefits. 

    But that toque might kill ya!!
    My pediatrician cared for my daughter who was delivered 11 weeks early at 2.5 lbs and spent the first seven weeks if her life in the NICU.  He was pretty good, thanks for asking.  

    So you don't have any Jewish people in your city?  Are you in Nuremberg?
    My two brothers (twins) were 12 weeks early. 

    Heard that the doctors were great - and on top of that they didn't mutilate them.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    benjs said:
    As a victim of the barbarism that was the traditional Jewish Dick Snip, I can say I feel pretty fine about the decision. Even with a deep hatred and disrespect for religion, I’m cool with my parents doing what they thought was best given the innocuous nature of it. 
    My husband is Irish Catholic (non-practicing on the latter) and has demanded the return of his foreskin many a time.

    I've no complaints at all, but I did tell him that snip ship has sailed =)

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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mcgruff10 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
    Haha, how old is your pediatrician? You can't even find a doctor who will circumcise babies here in my city. I guess they all must be idiots.

    It's only traditional at this point, no practical health benefits. 

    But that toque might kill ya!!
    So do you look at your junk and feel that you were mutilated? 

    My wife tells me I have fine junk, untouched by scalpel. Thankfully my parents aren't traditionalists or religious.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    benjs said:
    As a victim of the barbarism that was the traditional Jewish Dick Snip, I can say I feel pretty fine about the decision. Even with a deep hatred and disrespect for religion, I’m cool with my parents doing what they thought was best given the innocuous nature of it. 
    That's the thing, you have no idea what you're missing.

    Sex is better with a toque, on both heads.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,016
    benjs said:
    As a victim of the barbarism that was the traditional Jewish Dick Snip, I can say I feel pretty fine about the decision. Even with a deep hatred and disrespect for religion, I’m cool with my parents doing what they thought was best given the innocuous nature of it. 
    Not a reason to defend continuing the practice though.

    My father thought it was better to give us a Sega Mega Drive for christmas 1993 instead of a Super Nintendo.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    dignin said:
    benjs said:
    As a victim of the barbarism that was the traditional Jewish Dick Snip, I can say I feel pretty fine about the decision. Even with a deep hatred and disrespect for religion, I’m cool with my parents doing what they thought was best given the innocuous nature of it. 
    That's the thing, you have no idea what you're missing.

    Sex is better with a toque, on both heads.
    How do you know that?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
    Haha, how old is your pediatrician? You can't even find a doctor who will circumcise babies here in my city. I guess they all must be idiots.

    It's only traditional at this point, no practical health benefits. 

    But that toque might kill ya!!
    My pediatrician cared for my daughter who was delivered 11 weeks early at 2.5 lbs and spent the first seven weeks if her life in the NICU.  He was pretty good, thanks for asking.  

    So you don't have any Jewish people in your city?  Are you in Nuremberg?
    My two brothers (twins) were 12 weeks early. 

    Heard that the doctors were great - and on top of that they didn't mutilate them.
    Doctors should never mutilate.  And circumcision is perfectly fine.  Cast your vote for Yang and the "shit that doesn't matter" platform. 
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    hedonist said:
    benjs said:
    As a victim of the barbarism that was the traditional Jewish Dick Snip, I can say I feel pretty fine about the decision. Even with a deep hatred and disrespect for religion, I’m cool with my parents doing what they thought was best given the innocuous nature of it. 
    My husband is Irish Catholic (non-practicing on the latter) and has demanded the return of his foreskin many a time.

    I've no complaints at all, but I did tell him that snip ship has sailed =)

    LOL
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    No offense intended, but you all opened the door, dammit.

    https://youtu.be/sH2Jg5soZig
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,016
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    And circumcision is barbaric.
    Then don't choose it for your son.  Im comfortable with my choices and my father's.  I also chose measles vaccine, small box, chicken pox and HPV for my children.  Call child protection. 
    That's a pretty dumb comparison. 
    I'll be sure to trust you over my pediatrician. Im sure your much more schooled in the comparative benefits.  Although he is bought and owned by the hand lotion lobby.  FFS.
    Haha, how old is your pediatrician? You can't even find a doctor who will circumcise babies here in my city. I guess they all must be idiots.

    It's only traditional at this point, no practical health benefits. 

    But that toque might kill ya!!
    My pediatrician cared for my daughter who was delivered 11 weeks early at 2.5 lbs and spent the first seven weeks if her life in the NICU.  He was pretty good, thanks for asking.  

    So you don't have any Jewish people in your city?  Are you in Nuremberg?
    My two brothers (twins) were 12 weeks early. 

    Heard that the doctors were great - and on top of that they didn't mutilate them.
    Doctors should never mutilate.  And circumcision is perfectly fine.  Cast your vote for Yang and the "shit that doesn't matter" platform. 
    Cast your vote for Bid...FOD GOD SAKES SOMEONE WAKE UP BIDEN! HE'S SLEEPING AND DROOLING ALL OVER THAT LADY AGAIN!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    It's unbelievable that a thread at the AMT would go off topic.  WTF. 
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    It's unbelievable that a thread at the AMT would go off topic.  WTF. 
    No, still on topic. Yang and wang.

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