Jon Stewart shames, a nearly empty, congress

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited June 2019
    Sad.  Damn tragic that people need to fight politicians to give them their rightful benefits...

    It's the same thing here in Canada, our vets are always in court to get their rightful benefits...

    But I see politicians for what they are scum...almost all them.
    Post edited by Meltdown99 on
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    That man is a gift.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    I'm so incredibly ashamed of this administration right now.  I don't even know how to fully say it.

    And I don't generally use the term "God bless" but in this case, God Bless Jon Stewart. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    edited June 2019
    Let's name names.
    It was the House Judiciary Committee ​

    PRESENT:
    House ​Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler​ of New York,
    ​Democratic Reps. Steve Cohen​ of Tennessee​,
    Mary Gay Scanlon​ of Pennsylvania​,
    Jamie Raskin ​of Maryland ​
    ​and the top Republican in the ​Judiciary subcommittee, Rep. Mike Johnson ​of Louisiana.
    Democratic ​Rep. Max Rose ​of Staten Island was seated near the witnesses testifying.

    Who was missing? Too many, shameful. 
    https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members

    Democratic Members
    Zoe Lofgren California
    Sheila Jackson Lee Texas
    Henry C. "Hank" Johnson Georgia
    Theodore E. Deutch Florida
    Karen Bass California
    Cedric L. Richmond Louisiana
    Hakeem S. Jeffries New York
    David N. Cicilline Rhode Island
    Eric Swalwell California
    Ted Lieu California
    Pramila Jayapal Washington
    Val Butler Demings Florida
    J. Luis Correa California
    Sylvia R. Garcia Texas
    Joe Neguse Colorado
    Lucy McBath Georgia
    Greg Stanton Arizona
    Madeleine Dean Pennsylvania
    Debbie Mucarsel-Powell Florida
    Veronica Escobar Texas
    Ranking Member Doug Collins Georgia

    Republican Membership
    F. James Sensenbrenner Wisconsin
    Steve Chabot Ohio
    Louie Gohmer Texas
    Jim Jordan Ohio
    Ken Buck Colorado
    John Ratcliffe Texas
    Martha Roby Alabama
    Matt Gaetz Florida
    Andy Biggs Arizona
    Tom McClintock California
    Debbie Lesko Arizona
    Guy Reschenthaler Pennsylvania
    Ben Cline Virginia
    Kelly Armstrong North Dakota
    W. Gregory Steube Florida

    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Kat said:
    Let's name names.
    It was the House Judiciary Committee ​

    PRESENT:
    House ​Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler​ of New York,
    ​Democratic Reps. Steve Cohen​ of Tennessee​,
    Mary Gay Scanlon​ of Pennsylvania​,
    Jamie Raskin ​of Maryland ​
    ​and the top Republican in the ​Judiciary subcommittee, Rep. Mike Johnson ​of Louisiana.
    Democratic ​Rep. Max Rose ​of Staten Island was seated near the witnesses testifying.

    Who were missing? Too many, shameful. 
    https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members

    Democratic Members
    Zoe Lofgren California
    Sheila Jackson Lee Texas
    Henry C. "Hank" Johnson Georgia
    Theodore E. Deutch Florida
    Karen Bass California
    Cedric L. Richmond Louisiana
    Hakeem S. Jeffries New York
    David N. Cicilline Rhode Island
    Eric Swalwell California
    Ted Lieu California
    Pramila Jayapal Washington
    Val Butler Demings Florida
    J. Luis Correa California
    Sylvia R. Garcia Texas
    Joe Neguse Colorado
    Lucy McBath Georgia
    Greg Stanton Arizona
    Madeleine Dean Pennsylvania
    Debbie Mucarsel-Powell Florida
    Veronica Escobar Texas
    Ranking Member Doug Collins Georgia

    Republican Membership
    F. James Sensenbrenner Wisconsin
    Steve Chabot Ohio
    Louie Gohmer Texas
    Jim Jordan Ohio
    Ken Buck Colorado
    John Ratcliffe Texas
    Martha Roby Alabama
    Matt Gaetz Florida
    Andy Biggs Arizona
    Tom McClintock California
    Debbie Lesko Arizona
    Guy Reschenthaler Pennsylvania
    Ben Cline Virginia
    Kelly Armstrong North Dakota
    W. Gregory Steube Florida

    Good lord, all I can do is shake my head.  Shameful! And I am going go go right now and tell each of my congress people exactly that.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    There was only one from my district- one so-called "Patriot".  Well, it felt damn good to write to him.  I hope others here will do the same if your  representative is on the list KAT posted.  Thank you.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    brianlux said:
    I'm so incredibly ashamed of this administration right now.  I don't even know how to fully say it.

    And I don't generally use the term "God bless" but in this case, God Bless Jon Stewart. 
    Sorry. This is 17+ years in the making and the current Administration has only resided over the last 2.    Not everything is an indictment of Trump. Obama wasn't so great either.  He just did it with a little more decorum.

    And as others have now pointed out, it's not your side or their side that's solely to blame.  
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    that was great and sad at the same time.  agree 100% with everything he said.   
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    This illustrates the incompetence of the congress so well. If nothing can get done on THIS ISSUE, and issue that everyone agrees on regardless of political affiliation, then how can anything ever get done?
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  • mickeyrat
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    This illustrates the incompetence of the congress so well. If nothing can get done on THIS ISSUE, and issue that everyone agrees on regardless of political affiliation, then how can anything ever get done?
    it gets cynically used for pollitical purposes. as with most things.....
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  • mfc2006
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    pjhawks said:
    that was great and sad at the same time.  agree 100% with everything he said.   
    And I completely agree with you. Well said.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    brianlux said:
    I'm so incredibly ashamed of this administration right now.  I don't even know how to fully say it.

    And I don't generally use the term "God bless" but in this case, God Bless Jon Stewart. 
    Sorry. This is 17+ years in the making and the current Administration has only resided over the last 2.    Not everything is an indictment of Trump. Obama wasn't so great either.  He just did it with a little more decorum.

    And as others have now pointed out, it's not your side or their side that's solely to blame.  
    OK, I get what your saying- my poor wording.  But I'm still ashamed of this Congress- both sides who haven't shown support. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    This illustrates the incompetence of the congress so well. If nothing can get done on THIS ISSUE, and issue that everyone agrees on regardless of political affiliation, then how can anything ever get done?
    Talk about slackers.  This congress is the ultimate quintessential group of (mostly) slackers. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited June 2019
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    Let's name names.
    It was the House Judiciary Committee ​

    PRESENT:
    House ​Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler​ of New York,
    ​Democratic Reps. Steve Cohen​ of Tennessee​,
    Mary Gay Scanlon​ of Pennsylvania​,
    Jamie Raskin ​of Maryland ​
    ​and the top Republican in the ​Judiciary subcommittee, Rep. Mike Johnson ​of Louisiana.
    Democratic ​Rep. Max Rose ​of Staten Island was seated near the witnesses testifying.

    Who were missing? Too many, shameful. 
    https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members

    Democratic Members
    Zoe Lofgren California
    Sheila Jackson Lee Texas
    Henry C. "Hank" Johnson Georgia
    Theodore E. Deutch Florida
    Karen Bass California
    Cedric L. Richmond Louisiana
    Hakeem S. Jeffries New York
    David N. Cicilline Rhode Island
    Eric Swalwell California
    Ted Lieu California
    Pramila Jayapal Washington
    Val Butler Demings Florida
    J. Luis Correa California
    Sylvia R. Garcia Texas
    Joe Neguse Colorado
    Lucy McBath Georgia
    Greg Stanton Arizona
    Madeleine Dean Pennsylvania
    Debbie Mucarsel-Powell Florida
    Veronica Escobar Texas
    Ranking Member Doug Collins Georgia

    Republican Membership
    F. James Sensenbrenner Wisconsin
    Steve Chabot Ohio
    Louie Gohmer Texas
    Jim Jordan Ohio
    Ken Buck Colorado
    John Ratcliffe Texas
    Martha Roby Alabama
    Matt Gaetz Florida
    Andy Biggs Arizona
    Tom McClintock California
    Debbie Lesko Arizona
    Guy Reschenthaler Pennsylvania
    Ben Cline Virginia
    Kelly Armstrong North Dakota
    W. Gregory Steube Florida

    Good lord, all I can do is shake my head.  Shameful! And I am going go go right now and tell each of my congress people exactly that.
    The entire situation is grotesquely shameful. There should have been an inappropriately flexible funding bill set up the first time it was requested. As the years go by the amount of money needed grows as more people get sick and the sick get sicker. 

    Just one thing about who was present in Congress - it was a subcommittee that met today, the entire committee doesn't meet until tomorrow. So the empty seats in the front were people who were not supposed to be there today. Eric Swalwell/California and Guy Reschenthaler/Pennsylvania were members of the sub committee that did not attend and that is shameful. People were walking in and out of the hearing as the 9/11 responders were testifying prior to Stewart testifying. It is something that happens whenever there is a committee hearing, I always find it to be annoying and I don't see how someone could not sit and listen to these responders testify. But not all of those people chose not to attend, they aren't part of this sub committee. I think the entire committee should have been assembled to listen to these heroes, but it was the sub committee only. 

    Stewart was spot on in his anger about the hypocrisy of Congress and the fact that these sick heroes need to continue to fight for benefits they deserve for illnesses caused by an attack on America. He made a common sense argument and he was especially angry about Mitch McConnell - the proud "grim reaper' where bills go to die. 

    It is disgusting and should have been fully funded years ago. The President at the time of the funding does not have anything to do with the Congress's process. It is the insanity of the Congress where the House, depending on who is the majority, sends a funding bill to the Senate and the Senate, which has been Republican majority last time this bill was introduced and this time. This dysfunction of the Senate  where McConnell only will allow judge appointments come to the floor and ignores all other House bills that is the most infuriating. 

    I would hope that the passion of the hearing would make them put aside politics, but I fear for the responders tomorrow when they vote on this bill. 
    Post edited by njnancy on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    njnancy said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    Let's name names.
    It was the House Judiciary Committee ​

    PRESENT:
    House ​Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler​ of New York,
    ​Democratic Reps. Steve Cohen​ of Tennessee​,
    Mary Gay Scanlon​ of Pennsylvania​,
    Jamie Raskin ​of Maryland ​
    ​and the top Republican in the ​Judiciary subcommittee, Rep. Mike Johnson ​of Louisiana.
    Democratic ​Rep. Max Rose ​of Staten Island was seated near the witnesses testifying.

    Who were missing? Too many, shameful. 
    https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members

    Democratic Members
    Zoe Lofgren California
    Sheila Jackson Lee Texas
    Henry C. "Hank" Johnson Georgia
    Theodore E. Deutch Florida
    Karen Bass California
    Cedric L. Richmond Louisiana
    Hakeem S. Jeffries New York
    David N. Cicilline Rhode Island
    Eric Swalwell California
    Ted Lieu California
    Pramila Jayapal Washington
    Val Butler Demings Florida
    J. Luis Correa California
    Sylvia R. Garcia Texas
    Joe Neguse Colorado
    Lucy McBath Georgia
    Greg Stanton Arizona
    Madeleine Dean Pennsylvania
    Debbie Mucarsel-Powell Florida
    Veronica Escobar Texas
    Ranking Member Doug Collins Georgia

    Republican Membership
    F. James Sensenbrenner Wisconsin
    Steve Chabot Ohio
    Louie Gohmer Texas
    Jim Jordan Ohio
    Ken Buck Colorado
    John Ratcliffe Texas
    Martha Roby Alabama
    Matt Gaetz Florida
    Andy Biggs Arizona
    Tom McClintock California
    Debbie Lesko Arizona
    Guy Reschenthaler Pennsylvania
    Ben Cline Virginia
    Kelly Armstrong North Dakota
    W. Gregory Steube Florida

    Good lord, all I can do is shake my head.  Shameful! And I am going go go right now and tell each of my congress people exactly that.
    The entire situation is grotesquely shameful. There should have been an inappropriately flexible funding bill set up the first time it was requested. As the years go by the amount of money needed grows as more people get sick and the sick get sicker. 

    Just one thing about who was present in Congress - it was a subcommittee that met today, the entire committee doesn't meet until tomorrow. So the empty seats in the front were people who were not supposed to be there today. Eric Swalwell/California and Guy Reschenthaler/Pennsylvania were members of the sub committee that did not attend and that is shameful. People were walking in and out of the hearing as the 9/11 responders were testifying prior to Stewart testifying. It is something that happens whenever there is a committee hearing, I always find it to be annoying and I don't see how someone could not sit and listen to these responders testify. But not all of those people chose not to attend, they aren't part of this sub committee. I think the entire committee should have been assembled to listen to these heroes, but it was the sub committee only. 

    Stewart was spot on in his anger about the hypocrisy of Congress and the fact that these sick heroes need to continue to fight for benefits they deserve for illnesses caused by an attack on America. He made a common sense argument and he was especially angry about Mitch McConnell - the proud "grim reaper' where bills go to die. 

    It is disgusting and should have been fully funded years ago. The President at the time of the funding does not have anything to do with the Congress's process. It is the insanity of the Congress where the House, depending on who is the majority, sends a funding bill to the Senate and the Senate, which has been Republican majority last time this bill was introduced and this time. This dysfunction of the Senate  where McConnell only will allow judge appointments come to the floor and ignores all other House bills that is the most infuriating. 

    I would hope that the passion of the hearing would make them put aside politics, but I fear for the responders tomorrow when they vote on this bill. 
    Well said, Nancy. 

    McC, is an evil man.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    njnancy said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    Let's name names.
    It was the House Judiciary Committee ​

    PRESENT:
    House ​Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler​ of New York,
    ​Democratic Reps. Steve Cohen​ of Tennessee​,
    Mary Gay Scanlon​ of Pennsylvania​,
    Jamie Raskin ​of Maryland ​
    ​and the top Republican in the ​Judiciary subcommittee, Rep. Mike Johnson ​of Louisiana.
    Democratic ​Rep. Max Rose ​of Staten Island was seated near the witnesses testifying.

    Who were missing? Too many, shameful. 
    https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members

    Democratic Members
    Zoe Lofgren California
    Sheila Jackson Lee Texas
    Henry C. "Hank" Johnson Georgia
    Theodore E. Deutch Florida
    Karen Bass California
    Cedric L. Richmond Louisiana
    Hakeem S. Jeffries New York
    David N. Cicilline Rhode Island
    Eric Swalwell California
    Ted Lieu California
    Pramila Jayapal Washington
    Val Butler Demings Florida
    J. Luis Correa California
    Sylvia R. Garcia Texas
    Joe Neguse Colorado
    Lucy McBath Georgia
    Greg Stanton Arizona
    Madeleine Dean Pennsylvania
    Debbie Mucarsel-Powell Florida
    Veronica Escobar Texas
    Ranking Member Doug Collins Georgia

    Republican Membership
    F. James Sensenbrenner Wisconsin
    Steve Chabot Ohio
    Louie Gohmer Texas
    Jim Jordan Ohio
    Ken Buck Colorado
    John Ratcliffe Texas
    Martha Roby Alabama
    Matt Gaetz Florida
    Andy Biggs Arizona
    Tom McClintock California
    Debbie Lesko Arizona
    Guy Reschenthaler Pennsylvania
    Ben Cline Virginia
    Kelly Armstrong North Dakota
    W. Gregory Steube Florida

    Good lord, all I can do is shake my head.  Shameful! And I am going go go right now and tell each of my congress people exactly that.
    The entire situation is grotesquely shameful. There should have been an inappropriately flexible funding bill set up the first time it was requested. As the years go by the amount of money needed grows as more people get sick and the sick get sicker. 

    Just one thing about who was present in Congress - it was a subcommittee that met today, the entire committee doesn't meet until tomorrow. So the empty seats in the front were people who were not supposed to be there today. Eric Swalwell/California and Guy Reschenthaler/Pennsylvania were members of the sub committee that did not attend and that is shameful. People were walking in and out of the hearing as the 9/11 responders were testifying prior to Stewart testifying. It is something that happens whenever there is a committee hearing, I always find it to be annoying and I don't see how someone could not sit and listen to these responders testify. But not all of those people chose not to attend, they aren't part of this sub committee. I think the entire committee should have been assembled to listen to these heroes, but it was the sub committee only. 

    Stewart was spot on in his anger about the hypocrisy of Congress and the fact that these sick heroes need to continue to fight for benefits they deserve for illnesses caused by an attack on America. He made a common sense argument and he was especially angry about Mitch McConnell - the proud "grim reaper' where bills go to die. 

    It is disgusting and should have been fully funded years ago. The President at the time of the funding does not have anything to do with the Congress's process. It is the insanity of the Congress where the House, depending on who is the majority, sends a funding bill to the Senate and the Senate, which has been Republican majority last time this bill was introduced and this time. This dysfunction of the Senate  where McConnell only will allow judge appointments come to the floor and ignores all other House bills that is the most infuriating. 

    I would hope that the passion of the hearing would make them put aside politics, but I fear for the responders tomorrow when they vote on this bill. 
    Here is a few problems w the bill.

    The dems throw stuff in the bill so if it gets passed they get a few things they wanted which pisses off the Rep something fierce and they vote it down.

    It's not that the Rep are voting the 9/11 part of it down but all the other crap that gets thrown in.

    One side looks good while the other looks bad and vice-versa. Oldest trick in the books.

    There needs to be a bipartisan bill made so that both parties will pass it.

    It's bullshit politics and both sides don't give a shit which is apparent after 9 years of back and forth not to mention that this incident happened 18 years ago.

    More about the bill.

    21,000 claims have been open to get the 7.375 Billion dollars.  That's 300k per claim on average.  There weren't 21000 first responders in that time.  These payouts also go to ironworkers, electricians, and people that were there and breathed in all that crap that was floating around the city so it can go thin quick I'd guess?

    The NYC workers already have a pension and medical being paid for by the city so what is the other money going towards?

    I'm also curious to how the money does get doled out to victims.

    The more you look at it the worse it actually gets.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,263
    njnancy said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    Let's name names.
    It was the House Judiciary Committee ​

    PRESENT:
    House ​Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler​ of New York,
    ​Democratic Reps. Steve Cohen​ of Tennessee​,
    Mary Gay Scanlon​ of Pennsylvania​,
    Jamie Raskin ​of Maryland ​
    ​and the top Republican in the ​Judiciary subcommittee, Rep. Mike Johnson ​of Louisiana.
    Democratic ​Rep. Max Rose ​of Staten Island was seated near the witnesses testifying.

    Who were missing? Too many, shameful. 
    https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members

    Democratic Members
    Zoe Lofgren California
    Sheila Jackson Lee Texas
    Henry C. "Hank" Johnson Georgia
    Theodore E. Deutch Florida
    Karen Bass California
    Cedric L. Richmond Louisiana
    Hakeem S. Jeffries New York
    David N. Cicilline Rhode Island
    Eric Swalwell California
    Ted Lieu California
    Pramila Jayapal Washington
    Val Butler Demings Florida
    J. Luis Correa California
    Sylvia R. Garcia Texas
    Joe Neguse Colorado
    Lucy McBath Georgia
    Greg Stanton Arizona
    Madeleine Dean Pennsylvania
    Debbie Mucarsel-Powell Florida
    Veronica Escobar Texas
    Ranking Member Doug Collins Georgia

    Republican Membership
    F. James Sensenbrenner Wisconsin
    Steve Chabot Ohio
    Louie Gohmer Texas
    Jim Jordan Ohio
    Ken Buck Colorado
    John Ratcliffe Texas
    Martha Roby Alabama
    Matt Gaetz Florida
    Andy Biggs Arizona
    Tom McClintock California
    Debbie Lesko Arizona
    Guy Reschenthaler Pennsylvania
    Ben Cline Virginia
    Kelly Armstrong North Dakota
    W. Gregory Steube Florida

    Good lord, all I can do is shake my head.  Shameful! And I am going go go right now and tell each of my congress people exactly that.
    The entire situation is grotesquely shameful. There should have been an inappropriately flexible funding bill set up the first time it was requested. As the years go by the amount of money needed grows as more people get sick and the sick get sicker. 

    Just one thing about who was present in Congress - it was a subcommittee that met today, the entire committee doesn't meet until tomorrow. So the empty seats in the front were people who were not supposed to be there today. Eric Swalwell/California and Guy Reschenthaler/Pennsylvania were members of the sub committee that did not attend and that is shameful. People were walking in and out of the hearing as the 9/11 responders were testifying prior to Stewart testifying. It is something that happens whenever there is a committee hearing, I always find it to be annoying and I don't see how someone could not sit and listen to these responders testify. But not all of those people chose not to attend, they aren't part of this sub committee. I think the entire committee should have been assembled to listen to these heroes, but it was the sub committee only. 

    Stewart was spot on in his anger about the hypocrisy of Congress and the fact that these sick heroes need to continue to fight for benefits they deserve for illnesses caused by an attack on America. He made a common sense argument and he was especially angry about Mitch McConnell - the proud "grim reaper' where bills go to die. 

    It is disgusting and should have been fully funded years ago. The President at the time of the funding does not have anything to do with the Congress's process. It is the insanity of the Congress where the House, depending on who is the majority, sends a funding bill to the Senate and the Senate, which has been Republican majority last time this bill was introduced and this time. This dysfunction of the Senate  where McConnell only will allow judge appointments come to the floor and ignores all other House bills that is the most infuriating. 

    I would hope that the passion of the hearing would make them put aside politics, but I fear for the responders tomorrow when they vote on this bill. 
    Here is a few problems w the bill.

    The dems throw stuff in the bill so if it gets passed they get a few things they wanted which pisses off the Rep something fierce and they vote it down.

    It's not that the Rep are voting the 9/11 part of it down but all the other crap that gets thrown in.

    One side looks good while the other looks bad and vice-versa. Oldest trick in the books.

    There needs to be a bipartisan bill made so that both parties will pass it.

    It's bullshit politics and both sides don't give a shit which is apparent after 9 years of back and forth not to mention that this incident happened 18 years ago.

    More about the bill.

    21,000 claims have been open to get the 7.375 Billion dollars.  That's 300k per claim on average.  There weren't 21000 first responders in that time.  These payouts also go to ironworkers, electricians, and people that were there and breathed in all that crap that was floating around the city so it can go thin quick I'd guess?

    The NYC workers already have a pension and medical being paid for by the city so what is the other money going towards?

    I'm also curious to how the money does get doled out to victims.

    The more you look at it the worse it actually gets.
    Not really. The fund is administered by an independent guy who has a stellar reputation for being fair, honest, thoughtful and diligent in his approach. Where did the person work? What was there salary at the time? What was their earning potential to a certain age, 65, 67, 70? How many dependents did they have? Their ages? As for the bill? That’s where compromise comes into play and the art of politics is important. However, the repubs (see the e) have been the party of no for a decade or longer at this point. The bill will pass the house and the senate can vote it up or down or try to reconcile with their own bill. Too much work for Mitchy baby and flyover country doesn’t give a shit about NYC. Add the fact that Bush’s EPA administrator, former gubner of New Jersey, Christie Todd Whitman, caved to the pressure that the air was safe to breath with minimal precautions and the repubs own more scorn that dems. Remember the super storm sandy vote? How’s Puerto Rico doing? Fuck the repubs.
     
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    njnancy said:
    brianlux said:
    Kat said:
    Let's name names.
    It was the House Judiciary Committee ​

    PRESENT:
    House ​Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler​ of New York,
    ​Democratic Reps. Steve Cohen​ of Tennessee​,
    Mary Gay Scanlon​ of Pennsylvania​,
    Jamie Raskin ​of Maryland ​
    ​and the top Republican in the ​Judiciary subcommittee, Rep. Mike Johnson ​of Louisiana.
    Democratic ​Rep. Max Rose ​of Staten Island was seated near the witnesses testifying.

    Who were missing? Too many, shameful. 
    https://judiciary.house.gov/about/members

    Democratic Members
    Zoe Lofgren California
    Sheila Jackson Lee Texas
    Henry C. "Hank" Johnson Georgia
    Theodore E. Deutch Florida
    Karen Bass California
    Cedric L. Richmond Louisiana
    Hakeem S. Jeffries New York
    David N. Cicilline Rhode Island
    Eric Swalwell California
    Ted Lieu California
    Pramila Jayapal Washington
    Val Butler Demings Florida
    J. Luis Correa California
    Sylvia R. Garcia Texas
    Joe Neguse Colorado
    Lucy McBath Georgia
    Greg Stanton Arizona
    Madeleine Dean Pennsylvania
    Debbie Mucarsel-Powell Florida
    Veronica Escobar Texas
    Ranking Member Doug Collins Georgia

    Republican Membership
    F. James Sensenbrenner Wisconsin
    Steve Chabot Ohio
    Louie Gohmer Texas
    Jim Jordan Ohio
    Ken Buck Colorado
    John Ratcliffe Texas
    Martha Roby Alabama
    Matt Gaetz Florida
    Andy Biggs Arizona
    Tom McClintock California
    Debbie Lesko Arizona
    Guy Reschenthaler Pennsylvania
    Ben Cline Virginia
    Kelly Armstrong North Dakota
    W. Gregory Steube Florida

    Good lord, all I can do is shake my head.  Shameful! And I am going go go right now and tell each of my congress people exactly that.
    The entire situation is grotesquely shameful. There should have been an inappropriately flexible funding bill set up the first time it was requested. As the years go by the amount of money needed grows as more people get sick and the sick get sicker. 

    Just one thing about who was present in Congress - it was a subcommittee that met today, the entire committee doesn't meet until tomorrow. So the empty seats in the front were people who were not supposed to be there today. Eric Swalwell/California and Guy Reschenthaler/Pennsylvania were members of the sub committee that did not attend and that is shameful. People were walking in and out of the hearing as the 9/11 responders were testifying prior to Stewart testifying. It is something that happens whenever there is a committee hearing, I always find it to be annoying and I don't see how someone could not sit and listen to these responders testify. But not all of those people chose not to attend, they aren't part of this sub committee. I think the entire committee should have been assembled to listen to these heroes, but it was the sub committee only. 

    Stewart was spot on in his anger about the hypocrisy of Congress and the fact that these sick heroes need to continue to fight for benefits they deserve for illnesses caused by an attack on America. He made a common sense argument and he was especially angry about Mitch McConnell - the proud "grim reaper' where bills go to die. 

    It is disgusting and should have been fully funded years ago. The President at the time of the funding does not have anything to do with the Congress's process. It is the insanity of the Congress where the House, depending on who is the majority, sends a funding bill to the Senate and the Senate, which has been Republican majority last time this bill was introduced and this time. This dysfunction of the Senate  where McConnell only will allow judge appointments come to the floor and ignores all other House bills that is the most infuriating. 

    I would hope that the passion of the hearing would make them put aside politics, but I fear for the responders tomorrow when they vote on this bill. 
    Here is a few problems w the bill.

    The dems throw stuff in the bill so if it gets passed they get a few things they wanted which pisses off the Rep something fierce and they vote it down.

    It's not that the Rep are voting the 9/11 part of it down but all the other crap that gets thrown in.

    One side looks good while the other looks bad and vice-versa. Oldest trick in the books.

    There needs to be a bipartisan bill made so that both parties will pass it.

    It's bullshit politics and both sides don't give a shit which is apparent after 9 years of back and forth not to mention that this incident happened 18 years ago.

    More about the bill.

    21,000 claims have been open to get the 7.375 Billion dollars.  That's 300k per claim on average.  There weren't 21000 first responders in that time.  These payouts also go to ironworkers, electricians, and people that were there and breathed in all that crap that was floating around the city so it can go thin quick I'd guess?

    The NYC workers already have a pension and medical being paid for by the city so what is the other money going towards?

    I'm also curious to how the money does get doled out to victims.

    The more you look at it the worse it actually gets.
    Can you post some articles with more info?

    I really am not up to date with the situation. If Stewart is pissed off I trust he has good reason.