Mom chases down teen son after he steals her BMW, spanks him with belt on side of road

mcgruff10

Meltdown99 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

mcgruff10 said:

The kid definitely got what he deserved, Good for the mom. However she was wrong when she decided to post it online. Hopefully the kid learned his lesson.  

I do not know Texas law regarding minors...does a criminal charge that was laid on 13 years old follow them for life...In Canada, once your 18 your record is no longer an issue.  So if the record in Texas follows him into adulthood, then this Mom might have done him a favour.  But who knows...

I definitely think the mom did the kid a favor.  I'm pretty sure the record would be erased but the charge could have been pretty severe since stealing a car is a felony.  Who knows.

What if he'd hit someone and seriously injured someone or worse...maybe this mother prevented future tragedy...

If he hit someone or something then the cops had to be called. I don’t ever hit my kids but I wonder how I would react in the same situation. 

I know the cops would be called.  My point was maybe her harsh punishment may have prevented a possible more serious incident...

And I definitely agreee with that. 

Spiritual_Chaos

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

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brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

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I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

Spiritual_Chaos

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

?

I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

Psychical reprimands have no business happening at all, on social media or in private. Not in a modern society. It's 2019.

A stern talk should happen in private, because it's always embarrassing hearing parents yell at their kids in public. Like when sitting on the tram trying to listen to Boston 2010 or when trying to eat at your favorite vegetarian lunch place. 

Meltdown99

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

mcgruff10

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

?

I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

I wouldn’t really classify that as a beating. There really wasn’t a lot of force behind those swings.  Totally agree that it shouldn’t have been put online. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Meltdown99 said:

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

When have I said that I don't think it happens in Sweden?

oftenreading

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

?

I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

Psychical reprimands have no business happening at all, on social media or in private. Not in a modern society. It's 2019.

A stern talk should happen in private, because it's always embarrassing hearing parents yell at their kids in public. Like when sitting on the tram trying to listen to Boston 2010 or when trying to eat at your favorite vegetarian lunch place. 

It’s all out of line, it’s all counterproductive, and it’s all unnecessary.  

Just another  kid who learned that the way to solve a problem is with violence.

Spiritual_Chaos

oftenreading said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

?

I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

Psychical reprimands have no business happening at all, on social media or in private. Not in a modern society. It's 2019.

A stern talk should happen in private, because it's always embarrassing hearing parents yell at their kids in public. Like when sitting on the tram trying to listen to Boston 2010 or when trying to eat at your favorite vegetarian lunch place. 

It’s all out of line, it’s all counterproductive, and it’s all unnecessary.  

Just another  kid who learned that the way to solve a problem is with violence.

Are you referencing Jeremy or Daughter?

Go Beavers

oftenreading said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

?

I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

Psychical reprimands have no business happening at all, on social media or in private. Not in a modern society. It's 2019.

A stern talk should happen in private, because it's always embarrassing hearing parents yell at their kids in public. Like when sitting on the tram trying to listen to Boston 2010 or when trying to eat at your favorite vegetarian lunch place. 

It’s all out of line, it’s all counterproductive, and it’s all unnecessary.  

Just another  kid who learned that the way to solve a problem is with violence.

Yup. The outcomes of using violence as a consequence for behavior has more negatives. It’s largely done as an outlet for the parent’s anger. 

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

?

I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

Psychical reprimands have no business happening at all, on social media or in private. Not in a modern society. It's 2019.

A stern talk should happen in private, because it's always embarrassing hearing parents yell at their kids in public. Like when sitting on the tram trying to listen to Boston 2010 or when trying to eat at your favorite vegetarian lunch place. 

oftenreading said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spanking and beating someone with a belt are not the same thing.

?

I'm stating the obvious for those who think this public "spanking" was OK.  It was not "spanking".  It was a beating with a belt.  And personal reprimands have not damn business being displayed on social media.  Only a person with no class or taste would do that.

Psychical reprimands have no business happening at all, on social media or in private. Not in a modern society. It's 2019.

A stern talk should happen in private, because it's always embarrassing hearing parents yell at their kids in public. Like when sitting on the tram trying to listen to Boston 2010 or when trying to eat at your favorite vegetarian lunch place. 

It’s all out of line, it’s all counterproductive, and it’s all unnecessary.  

Just another  kid who learned that the way to solve a problem is with violence.

I totally agree.  I was brought up by G.I. generation parents who were brought up to believe in that "spare the rod, spoil the child" b.s.  Getting whooped did more harm than good by a long shot.  Spanking just teaches kids that the parent is too impatient to take the time to talk to the kid or too lacking in creative thinking to find other solutions like time outs or withholding treats.  The other major issue I have is with parents saying "If you do that again you won't get any dessert,"  and then not following up on what they said.  At least my parents never did that. If they made a threat, they followed through with it.

Halifax2TheMax

Lucky a passing motorist didn’t shoot her thinking it was a car jacking, what with Texans thinking they’re the law with their concealed carry.

Meltdown99

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lucky a passing motorist didn’t shoot her thinking it was a car jacking, what with Texans thinking they’re the law with their concealed carry.

Maybe the kid is lucky the mom was not packing heat...

benjs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

When have I said that I don't think it happens in Sweden?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sweden was the first country in the world to forbid violence against a child (corporal punishment) in 1966.

Just saying.

See above where you continued to brag about the moral superiority exhibited in Sweden compared to the USA. If your government are making laws that you're proud of but you admit that citizens are ignoring the laws that make you proud, maybe your pride is a bit unearned.

Just saying. 

mcgruff10

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

When have I said that I don't think it happens in Sweden?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sweden was the first country in the world to forbid violence against a child (corporal punishment) in 1966.

Just saying.

See above where you continued to brag about the moral superiority exhibited in Sweden compared to the USA. If your government are making laws that you're proud of but you admit that citizens are ignoring the laws that make you proud, maybe your pride is a bit unearned.

Just saying. 

sanctimonious is one of my favorite words.  

Spiritual_Chaos

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

When have I said that I don't think it happens in Sweden?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sweden was the first country in the world to forbid violence against a child (corporal punishment) in 1966.

Just saying.

See above where you continued to brag about the moral superiority exhibited in Sweden compared to the USA. If your government are making laws that you're proud of but you admit that citizens are ignoring the laws that make you proud, maybe your pride is a bit unearned.

Just saying. 

Flawed little yarn you spun there -- but being proud of sane laws not allowing physical assault towards children isn't the same as saying that people don't break laws in a country. Which would be weird to assume. Or be spinning yarns in bad faith. 

I don't know how it works in your country - a law automatically makes criminal activity drop to 0%? That would be impressive. So no murders, or rapes, or beatings at all then?


The US high up in the charts yet again:

The United States has one of the worst records among industrialized nations  – losing on average between four and seven children every day to child abuse and neglect. 

More than 70% of Americans agreed in 2012 that, “it is sometimes necessary to discipline a child with a good, hard spanking.”

Compared to a country who decided to have sane laws regarding this:

According to a survey, the Swedes' attitude to barnaga has changed sharply since the 1960s when a majority (about 55%) of the country's parents were positive to the children's cause and a majority (about 90%) of the country's parents had agate their children, compared with only 10% during the 2000s.


So, since the 60s - in which country has it been safer for kids to grow up in? To not have to endure psychical abuse, from parents or other adults? I think it would be the country deciding it's not okey to hit kids. The first country to do so. So let me be a little bit proud. And ofcourse of all the countries that followed.

Spiritual_Chaos

pjhawks

Spiritual_Chaos said:

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

When have I said that I don't think it happens in Sweden?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sweden was the first country in the world to forbid violence against a child (corporal punishment) in 1966.

Just saying.

See above where you continued to brag about the moral superiority exhibited in Sweden compared to the USA. If your government are making laws that you're proud of but you admit that citizens are ignoring the laws that make you proud, maybe your pride is a bit unearned.

Just saying. 

Flawed little yarn you spun there -- but being proud of sane laws not allowing physical assault towards children isn't the same as saying that people don't break laws in a country. Which would be weird to assume. Or be spinning yarns in bad faith. 

I don't know how it works in your country - a law automatically makes criminal activity drop to 0%? That would be impressive. So no murders, or rapes, or beatings at all then?


The US high up in the charts yet again:

The United States has one of the worst records among industrialized nations  – losing on average between four and seven children every day to child abuse and neglect. 

More than 70% of Americans agreed in 2012 that, “it is sometimes necessary to discipline a child with a good, hard spanking.”

Compared to a country who decided to have sane laws regarding this:

According to a survey, the Swedes' attitude to barnaga has changed sharply since the 1960s when a majority (about 55%) of the country's parents were positive to the children's cause and a majority (about 90%) of the country's parents had agate their children, compared with only 10% during the 2000s.


So, since the 60s - in which country has it been safer for kids to grow up in? To not have to endure psychical abuse, from parents or other adults? I think it would be the country deciding it's not okey to hit kids. The first country to do so. So let me be a little bit proud. And ofcourse of all the countries that followed.

we get it, you think we suck but you seemed obsessed with us and our political system.

Spiritual_Chaos

pjhawks said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

When have I said that I don't think it happens in Sweden?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sweden was the first country in the world to forbid violence against a child (corporal punishment) in 1966.

Just saying.

See above where you continued to brag about the moral superiority exhibited in Sweden compared to the USA. If your government are making laws that you're proud of but you admit that citizens are ignoring the laws that make you proud, maybe your pride is a bit unearned.

Just saying. 

Flawed little yarn you spun there -- but being proud of sane laws not allowing physical assault towards children isn't the same as saying that people don't break laws in a country. Which would be weird to assume. Or be spinning yarns in bad faith. 

I don't know how it works in your country - a law automatically makes criminal activity drop to 0%? That would be impressive. So no murders, or rapes, or beatings at all then?


The US high up in the charts yet again:

The United States has one of the worst records among industrialized nations  – losing on average between four and seven children every day to child abuse and neglect. 

More than 70% of Americans agreed in 2012 that, “it is sometimes necessary to discipline a child with a good, hard spanking.”

Compared to a country who decided to have sane laws regarding this:

According to a survey, the Swedes' attitude to barnaga has changed sharply since the 1960s when a majority (about 55%) of the country's parents were positive to the children's cause and a majority (about 90%) of the country's parents had agate their children, compared with only 10% during the 2000s.


So, since the 60s - in which country has it been safer for kids to grow up in? To not have to endure psychical abuse, from parents or other adults? I think it would be the country deciding it's not okey to hit kids. The first country to do so. So let me be a little bit proud. And ofcourse of all the countries that followed.

we get it, you think we suck but you seemed obsessed with us and our political system.

I just think no one should have the right to assault kids. And I think they should have protection from society to not have to withstand psychical assault growing up. Wherever they may live.

Sorry for that.

Meltdown99

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjhawks said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

It's pretty naive if you do not think parents in Sweden have spanked their kids...it's happening.

When have I said that I don't think it happens in Sweden?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sweden was the first country in the world to forbid violence against a child (corporal punishment) in 1966.

Just saying.

See above where you continued to brag about the moral superiority exhibited in Sweden compared to the USA. If your government are making laws that you're proud of but you admit that citizens are ignoring the laws that make you proud, maybe your pride is a bit unearned.

Just saying. 

Flawed little yarn you spun there -- but being proud of sane laws not allowing physical assault towards children isn't the same as saying that people don't break laws in a country. Which would be weird to assume. Or be spinning yarns in bad faith. 

I don't know how it works in your country - a law automatically makes criminal activity drop to 0%? That would be impressive. So no murders, or rapes, or beatings at all then?


The US high up in the charts yet again:

The United States has one of the worst records among industrialized nations  – losing on average between four and seven children every day to child abuse and neglect. 

More than 70% of Americans agreed in 2012 that, “it is sometimes necessary to discipline a child with a good, hard spanking.”

Compared to a country who decided to have sane laws regarding this:

According to a survey, the Swedes' attitude to barnaga has changed sharply since the 1960s when a majority (about 55%) of the country's parents were positive to the children's cause and a majority (about 90%) of the country's parents had agate their children, compared with only 10% during the 2000s.


So, since the 60s - in which country has it been safer for kids to grow up in? To not have to endure psychical abuse, from parents or other adults? I think it would be the country deciding it's not okey to hit kids. The first country to do so. So let me be a little bit proud. And ofcourse of all the countries that followed.

we get it, you think we suck but you seemed obsessed with us and our political system.

I just think no one should have the right to assault kids. And I think they should have protection from society to not have to withstand psychical assault growing up. Wherever they may live.

Sorry for that.

So what would you have done in her situation?  Call the police?  Pat him on the head with a warning not to do this again?  Stealing your parent's car is not the same as breaking curfew.  I would have been fine with her calling the police and putting his arse in the system... 

It is funny how so many come to the defence of this delinquent with no answers what they would have done, or without thinking of severity of this CRIME which could have been much worse if he had struck and hit a pedestrian or caused an accident.