a local theater is screening every SW, ever, babk to back to back to back, etc.
your $100 ticket gets you all that plus a special blanket, pin, popcorn tub and unlimited popcorn and soda. another $40 gets you three meals and a midnight snack.
woot! geekfest! dorkapalooza! dorkcon!
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Last Jedi one of highest/ if not the highest critically reviewed star wars films.....fans hate it
Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
I guess it was a well-made/shot movie for the most part....
But IMO, the story was a whole lot of nothing. A slow-speed chase. Characters, story, etc bored me and threw me off the Star Wars train. Not even looking forward to IX, but will see it. I am not vested at all in Kylo or Rey. I dislike Finn and Rose Tico leaving VIII. Poe is OK, but he was completely neutered and annoying in VIII. I was very interested in the all-powerful, frightening Snoke.... but he perished in the equivalent of slipping on a banana peel. Hux went from a menacing First Reich styled formidable leader to the butt end of jokes and hijinks. The whole obvious theme of empowered women was eye-rollingly blatant. All this among other story-breaking things, such as using hyper-space for 1 craft to obliterate a star fleet. And the main antagonist for the series just disintegrates while meditating for some reason.
And I am one of the minority who accepts I - III for what it is and I rarely crap on those movies. Solo was just pointless, but I didnt hate it. VIII on the other hand bothers me. Complete botch job.
Last Jedi one of highest/ if not the highest critically reviewed star wars films.....fans hate it
Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
The Last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film.
I refuse to see Joker.
Maybe I should be a critic.
There no fucking way....better then Empire? cmon man, put the pipe down
Its a clunker
I think after seeing The Force Awakens, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of, I've already seen this film. I thought new life was going to be breathed into Star Wars, but it was largely the same damn story and black-and-white worldview as Episode IV. And as much as I prefer Rey to Luke, I was disappointed overall.
So I went into The Last Jedi expecting the same damn story as Episode V and was thrilled to be proved wrong. It was a massive correction, in my opinion, to get away from the tired lineage bullshit and to get deeply into the unknowable gray area that Episode V mildly approached but didn't have the fortitude to explore. The characters were much more developed emotionally, and it was easier to identify with their glimpses of humanity. Shit, the best character in Episode VII was goddamn BB-8.
I'm also a fan of deliberately paced films (Lynch, Kubrick et al.). I mean, why build this awesome world if the camera doesn't allow the viewer to even take it in.
D.J. is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. And Holdo was a badass, too.
Seeing the trailers and online leaks from The Rise of Skywalker, it basically looks like a repeat of Episode VI. Disney does love its formulas.
Last Jedi one of highest/ if not the highest critically reviewed star wars films.....fans hate it
Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
The Last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film.
I refuse to see Joker.
Maybe I should be a critic.
There no fucking way....better then Empire? cmon man, put the pipe down
Its a clunker
I think after seeing The Force Awakens, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of, I've already seen this film. I thought new life was going to be breathed into Star Wars, but it was largely the same damn story and black-and-white worldview as Episode IV. And as much as I prefer Rey to Luke, I was disappointed overall.
So I went into The Last Jedi expecting the same damn story as Episode V and was thrilled to be proved wrong. It was a massive correction, in my opinion, to get away from the tired lineage bullshit and to get deeply into the unknowable gray area that Episode V mildly approached but didn't have the fortitude to explore. The characters were much more developed emotionally, and it was easier to identify with their glimpses of humanity. Shit, the best character in Episode VII was goddamn BB-8.
I'm also a fan of deliberately paced films (Lynch, Kubrick et al.). I mean, why build this awesome world if the camera doesn't allow the viewer to even take it in.
D.J. is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. And Holdo was a badass, too.
Seeing the trailers and online leaks from The Rise of Skywalker, it basically looks like a repeat of Episode VI. Disney does love its formulas.
a local theater is screening every SW, ever, babk to back to back to back, etc.
your $100 ticket gets you all that plus a special blanket, pin, popcorn tub and unlimited popcorn and soda. another $40 gets you three meals and a midnight snack.
woot! geekfest! dorkapalooza! dorkcon!
35mm or DCP?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Get there for the start of IV, stay for V, VI, VII and R1, skip everything else.
skip ‘em all!
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Last Jedi one of highest/ if not the highest critically reviewed star wars films.....fans hate it
Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
The Last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film.
I refuse to see Joker.
Maybe I should be a critic.
There no fucking way....better then Empire? cmon man, put the pipe down
Its a clunker
I think after seeing The Force Awakens, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of, I've already seen this film. I thought new life was going to be breathed into Star Wars, but it was largely the same damn story and black-and-white worldview as Episode IV. And as much as I prefer Rey to Luke, I was disappointed overall.
So I went into The Last Jedi expecting the same damn story as Episode V and was thrilled to be proved wrong. It was a massive correction, in my opinion, to get away from the tired lineage bullshit and to get deeply into the unknowable gray area that Episode V mildly approached but didn't have the fortitude to explore. The characters were much more developed emotionally, and it was easier to identify with their glimpses of humanity. Shit, the best character in Episode VII was goddamn BB-8.
I'm also a fan of deliberately paced films (Lynch, Kubrick et al.). I mean, why build this awesome world if the camera doesn't allow the viewer to even take it in.
D.J. is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. And Holdo was a badass, too.
Seeing the trailers and online leaks from The Rise of Skywalker, it basically looks like a repeat of Episode VI. Disney does love its formulas.
No matter what, The Force Awakens had to mimic A New Hope. You had to have a genesis/birth/growth story, introduce a character who was unaware but gifted with force ability, a major oppressive galactic empire/threat, and the growth/evolving of the new character to give a body blow to the evil galactic empire at the end to set up the rest of the trilogy. Force Awakens gets a lot of flack for being 'recycled', but I thought it did an excellent job with the First Order, showing Finn/Phasma and a first person view into Storm Troopers, and the Snoke/Kylo/Solos dynamic did not exist in A New Hope. All the characters introduced (Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo, Snoke, etc) were strong and broke independent of the previous films and were poised to break new ground.
No matter what, Episode VIII was going to break away. Im not even sure how they could re-create Empire Strikes Back more than Last Jedi did. We still had a scene similar to the Hoth battle scene/escape (although at the end).... some deceit in there... and the whole overarching theme is can/will Rey turn Kylo who is showing glimmers of being "good". You also had Rey leaving the group to go train with the master for an extended period of the movie.
I just thought Last Jedi was a sloppy movie and it didn't seem to break any sort of remarkable new story ground. Johnson seemed to do things just because he can. I have no idea why they don't have 1 person write and direct the whole trilogy, as opposed to handing the baton off. Just the opening scene with Poe "pranking" General Hux was terrible. Hux went from Hitler to a boob and the butt of everyone's Jokes. 2 Other compelling antagonists with potential died with very little effort (or justification) (Snoke and Phasma). And the side-story to the casino planet?
No matter what, The Force Awakens had to mimic A New Hope.
Nope. At least not to the absurd length it went. It goes so far that I bet a court could rule it a remake and not a sequel. The Force Awakens could have crept up to 2 billion dollars in the theatres and gotten praise without a "bigger death star".
No matter what, Episode VIII was going to break away.
I didn't see anyone at the time saying it was going to, or have to, "mimic" Empire... It was free to follow it's own path after TFA.
Episode VIII didn't have to "break away" from the path set by Force Awakens. And I'm not talking about plot-points or whether Luke digs to be a Jedi or not. There are a thousand ways for Luke to throw away/disregard the lighsaber that was handed to him in the end of TFA. The way they choose to do show a lack off respect for the former film and shitty directing. The tone and the jarring "man, this is not what JJ set up when he started this trilogy" direction from Rian Johnsson. Something must have been severely underplanned at Lucasflms.
And some TLJ-supporters say "b-b-b-but what about the original trilogy - this and that was changed and not known when the first film was released!". Well, back then Lucas thought he would be able to do ONE film and later tacked on a second and third.
Lucasfilms knew this was gonna be a trilogy from the get-go and still wasn't sure enough about where to go after TFA.
Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I went back and looked at my gripes w/ Last Jedi and found this...
OK My bitches and gripes.
Snoke could have been a better story. If He was reading Kylos mind this whole time how come he didn't see the saber coming? They LITERALLY just explained that he WAS/IS reading his mind this whole time yet he dies...
Leias moon walk? Groundbreaking story line.
Furbies on Jedi Island are like ewoks and Jar-jar...
Bombs dropping in space...
The casino scene...
Kylo failing at everything he does...
Rey having amazing abilities with zero training...
Phasma could have been a cool segway of a story and instead a janitor whoops her ass...
I thought i was watching Spaceballs for the first five minutes with the prank call to the Star Destroyer... It was funny though.
The whole movie was a filler for what is hopefully coming next but still could have been made better.
Last Jedi one of highest/ if not the highest critically reviewed star wars films.....fans hate it
Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
The Last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film.
I refuse to see Joker.
Maybe I should be a critic.
There no fucking way....better then Empire? cmon man, put the pipe down
Its a clunker
I think after seeing The Force Awakens, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of, I've already seen this film. I thought new life was going to be breathed into Star Wars, but it was largely the same damn story and black-and-white worldview as Episode IV. And as much as I prefer Rey to Luke, I was disappointed overall.
So I went into The Last Jedi expecting the same damn story as Episode V and was thrilled to be proved wrong. It was a massive correction, in my opinion, to get away from the tired lineage bullshit and to get deeply into the unknowable gray area that Episode V mildly approached but didn't have the fortitude to explore. The characters were much more developed emotionally, and it was easier to identify with their glimpses of humanity. Shit, the best character in Episode VII was goddamn BB-8.
I'm also a fan of deliberately paced films (Lynch, Kubrick et al.). I mean, why build this awesome world if the camera doesn't allow the viewer to even take it in.
D.J. is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. And Holdo was a badass, too.
Seeing the trailers and online leaks from The Rise of Skywalker, it basically looks like a repeat of Episode VI. Disney does love its formulas.
Agree. People didn't hate Last Jedi because it wasn't good, people hated Last Jedi because they wanted something stale and they got something new.
Last Jedi one of highest/ if not the highest critically reviewed star wars films.....fans hate it
Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
The Last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film.
I refuse to see Joker.
Maybe I should be a critic.
There no fucking way....better then Empire? cmon man, put the pipe down
Its a clunker
I think after seeing The Force Awakens, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of, I've already seen this film. I thought new life was going to be breathed into Star Wars, but it was largely the same damn story and black-and-white worldview as Episode IV. And as much as I prefer Rey to Luke, I was disappointed overall.
So I went into The Last Jedi expecting the same damn story as Episode V and was thrilled to be proved wrong. It was a massive correction, in my opinion, to get away from the tired lineage bullshit and to get deeply into the unknowable gray area that Episode V mildly approached but didn't have the fortitude to explore. The characters were much more developed emotionally, and it was easier to identify with their glimpses of humanity. Shit, the best character in Episode VII was goddamn BB-8.
I'm also a fan of deliberately paced films (Lynch, Kubrick et al.). I mean, why build this awesome world if the camera doesn't allow the viewer to even take it in.
D.J. is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. And Holdo was a badass, too.
Seeing the trailers and online leaks from The Rise of Skywalker, it basically looks like a repeat of Episode VI. Disney does love its formulas.
No matter what, The Force Awakens had to mimic A New Hope. You had to have a genesis/birth/growth story, introduce a character who was unaware but gifted with force ability, a major oppressive galactic empire/threat, and the growth/evolving of the new character to give a body blow to the evil galactic empire at the end to set up the rest of the trilogy. Force Awakens gets a lot of flack for being 'recycled', but I thought it did an excellent job with the First Order, showing Finn/Phasma and a first person view into Storm Troopers, and the Snoke/Kylo/Solos dynamic did not exist in A New Hope. All the characters introduced (Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo, Snoke, etc) were strong and broke independent of the previous films and were poised to break new ground.
No matter what, Episode VIII was going to break away. Im not even sure how they could re-create Empire Strikes Back more than Last Jedi did. We still had a scene similar to the Hoth battle scene/escape (although at the end).... some deceit in there... and the whole overarching theme is can/will Rey turn Kylo who is showing glimmers of being "good". You also had Rey leaving the group to go train with the master for an extended period of the movie.
I just thought Last Jedi was a sloppy movie and it didn't seem to break any sort of remarkable new story ground. Johnson seemed to do things just because he can. I have no idea why they don't have 1 person write and direct the whole trilogy, as opposed to handing the baton off. Just the opening scene with Poe "pranking" General Hux was terrible. Hux went from Hitler to a boob and the butt of everyone's Jokes. 2 Other compelling antagonists with potential died with very little effort (or justification) (Snoke and Phasma). And the side-story to the casino planet?
The casino arc wasn't good, but Hux was always a boob. You seriously thought he was more than that in TFA? They didn't cast a skinny, sputtering pale little twerp for no reason.
Last Jedi one of highest/ if not the highest critically reviewed star wars films.....fans hate it
Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
The Last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars film.
I refuse to see Joker.
Maybe I should be a critic.
There no fucking way....better then Empire? cmon man, put the pipe down
Its a clunker
I think after seeing The Force Awakens, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of, I've already seen this film. I thought new life was going to be breathed into Star Wars, but it was largely the same damn story and black-and-white worldview as Episode IV. And as much as I prefer Rey to Luke, I was disappointed overall.
So I went into The Last Jedi expecting the same damn story as Episode V and was thrilled to be proved wrong. It was a massive correction, in my opinion, to get away from the tired lineage bullshit and to get deeply into the unknowable gray area that Episode V mildly approached but didn't have the fortitude to explore. The characters were much more developed emotionally, and it was easier to identify with their glimpses of humanity. Shit, the best character in Episode VII was goddamn BB-8.
I'm also a fan of deliberately paced films (Lynch, Kubrick et al.). I mean, why build this awesome world if the camera doesn't allow the viewer to even take it in.
D.J. is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. And Holdo was a badass, too.
Seeing the trailers and online leaks from The Rise of Skywalker, it basically looks like a repeat of Episode VI. Disney does love its formulas.
Agree. People didn't hate Last Jedi because it wasn't good, people hated Last Jedi because they wanted something stale and they got something new.
Not true
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
The Last Jedi was a good movie but it failed in following the arc of the saga. It would have been great as a stand alone movie about a space chase, and if they had reworked the casino scene into something plausible, then it might have worked. But at its core, isn't Star Wars the story of Anakin and the Skywalker family? It's what made the reveal in Empire so fantastic.
The reason Force Awakens was compelling, even as a rehash of episode IV, was that the mystery of Rey's ancestry- especially the lightsabre flashback scene, made us feel she was a missing link to the saga. Then Johnson decides, through Kylo, that Rey is nobody? If Kylo was manipulating her, as some theories suggest, then I just find that cheap. Our central figure in episodes I-VI was a Skywalker, so if Rey is not somehow linked in some way- Vader DNA, cloning, Luke having an affair with a farm girl- then for me, this is not a continuation of the saga.
If Abrams decides to reel in that storyline in 'Rise', then Last Jedi becomes a bit of a waste of time. (And again, I like the movie.)
And Johnson wasn't completely original in his film making. The whole Luke and Rey on Ahch-to was a remake of Luke and Yoda on Dagobah.
Our central figure in episodes I-VI was a Skywalker, so if Rey is not somehow linked in some way- Vader DNA, cloning, Luke having an affair with a farm girl- then for me, this is not a continuation of the saga.
If the story has been about finding Luke, and in the end keeping his spirit of the Jedi to bring balance/peace through his legacy. Then it is not in some Days of Our Lives-soap opera way about people from that bloodline - but it is still about the Skywalkers.
PT: The father OT: The son ST: The legacy
(But I agree that if there are no (important) Skywalker alive at the end of this trilogy to face a fourth trilogy down the line. I think they fucked up. Mock Star Wars for its small space all you want because of it being all about the same characters all the time -- but the Star Wars saga should be about the Skywalkers and the good and evil that lies within that family)
Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Ben Solo is a Skywalker, and even if he isn't the sole focus, the entire story is shaped by the Skywalkers so Rey being a lost Skywalker is just unnecessary and corny. Hokey as hell.
Ben Solo is a Skywalker, and even if he isn't the sole focus, the entire story is shaped by the Skywalkers so Rey being a lost Skywalker is just unnecessary and corny. Hokey as hell.
Ben Solo is a Skywalker, and even if he isn't the sole focus, the entire story is shaped by the Skywalkers so Rey being a lost Skywalker is just unnecessary and corny. Hokey as hell.
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your $100 ticket gets you all that plus a special blanket, pin, popcorn tub and unlimited popcorn and soda. another $40 gets you three meals and a midnight snack.
woot! geekfest! dorkapalooza! dorkcon!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
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Joker....Bunch of self righteous critics at the end shit on it, bringing its critical rating down......everyone I know who saw it, loved it
Critics don't know jack shit
I refuse to see Joker.
Maybe I should be a critic.
But IMO, the story was a whole lot of nothing. A slow-speed chase. Characters, story, etc bored me and threw me off the Star Wars train. Not even looking forward to IX, but will see it. I am not vested at all in Kylo or Rey. I dislike Finn and Rose Tico leaving VIII. Poe is OK, but he was completely neutered and annoying in VIII. I was very interested in the all-powerful, frightening Snoke.... but he perished in the equivalent of slipping on a banana peel. Hux went from a menacing First Reich styled formidable leader to the butt end of jokes and hijinks.
The whole obvious theme of empowered women was eye-rollingly blatant.
All this among other story-breaking things, such as using hyper-space for 1 craft to obliterate a star fleet.
And the main antagonist for the series just disintegrates while meditating for some reason.
And I am one of the minority who accepts I - III for what it is and I rarely crap on those movies. Solo was just pointless, but I didnt hate it. VIII on the other hand bothers me. Complete botch job.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Its a clunker
Audience score = 44%
That is a whole lot of disconnect...
So I went into The Last Jedi expecting the same damn story as Episode V and was thrilled to be proved wrong. It was a massive correction, in my opinion, to get away from the tired lineage bullshit and to get deeply into the unknowable gray area that Episode V mildly approached but didn't have the fortitude to explore. The characters were much more developed emotionally, and it was easier to identify with their glimpses of humanity. Shit, the best character in Episode VII was goddamn BB-8.
I'm also a fan of deliberately paced films (Lynch, Kubrick et al.). I mean, why build this awesome world if the camera doesn't allow the viewer to even take it in.
D.J. is probably my favorite Star Wars character ever. And Holdo was a badass, too.
Seeing the trailers and online leaks from The Rise of Skywalker, it basically looks like a repeat of Episode VI. Disney does love its formulas.
Ooops wrong movie....
The money must flow!!!
skip ‘em all!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
No matter what, Episode VIII was going to break away. Im not even sure how they could re-create Empire Strikes Back more than Last Jedi did. We still had a scene similar to the Hoth battle scene/escape (although at the end).... some deceit in there... and the whole overarching theme is can/will Rey turn Kylo who is showing glimmers of being "good". You also had Rey leaving the group to go train with the master for an extended period of the movie.
I just thought Last Jedi was a sloppy movie and it didn't seem to break any sort of remarkable new story ground. Johnson seemed to do things just because he can. I have no idea why they don't have 1 person write and direct the whole trilogy, as opposed to handing the baton off. Just the opening scene with Poe "pranking" General Hux was terrible. Hux went from Hitler to a boob and the butt of everyone's Jokes. 2 Other compelling antagonists with potential died with very little effort (or justification) (Snoke and Phasma).
And the side-story to the casino planet?
I didn't see anyone at the time saying it was going to, or have to, "mimic" Empire... It was free to follow it's own path after TFA.
Episode VIII didn't have to "break away" from the path set by Force Awakens. And I'm not talking about plot-points or whether Luke digs to be a Jedi or not. There are a thousand ways for Luke to throw away/disregard the lighsaber that was handed to him in the end of TFA. The way they choose to do show a lack off respect for the former film and shitty directing. The tone and the jarring "man, this is not what JJ set up when he started this trilogy" direction from Rian Johnsson. Something must have been severely underplanned at Lucasflms.
And some TLJ-supporters say "b-b-b-but what about the original trilogy - this and that was changed and not known when the first film was released!". Well, back then Lucas thought he would be able to do ONE film and later tacked on a second and third.
Lucasfilms knew this was gonna be a trilogy from the get-go and still wasn't sure enough about where to go after TFA.
OK My bitches and gripes.
Snoke could have been a better story. If He was reading Kylos mind this whole time how come he didn't see the saber coming? They LITERALLY just explained that he WAS/IS reading his mind this whole time yet he dies...
Leias moon walk? Groundbreaking story line.
Furbies on Jedi Island are like ewoks and Jar-jar...
Bombs dropping in space...
The casino scene...
Kylo failing at everything he does...
Rey having amazing abilities with zero training...
Phasma could have been a cool segway of a story and instead a janitor whoops her ass...
I thought i was watching Spaceballs for the first five minutes with the prank call to the Star Destroyer... It was funny though.
The whole movie was a filler for what is hopefully coming next but still could have been made better.
They didn't cast a skinny, sputtering pale little twerp for no reason.
The reason Force Awakens was compelling, even as a rehash of episode IV, was that the mystery of Rey's ancestry- especially the lightsabre flashback scene, made us feel she was a missing link to the saga. Then Johnson decides, through Kylo, that Rey is nobody? If Kylo was manipulating her, as some theories suggest, then I just find that cheap. Our central figure in episodes I-VI was a Skywalker, so if Rey is not somehow linked in some way- Vader DNA, cloning, Luke having an affair with a farm girl- then for me, this is not a continuation of the saga.
If Abrams decides to reel in that storyline in 'Rise', then Last Jedi becomes a bit of a waste of time. (And again, I like the movie.)
And Johnson wasn't completely original in his film making. The whole Luke and Rey on Ahch-to was a remake of Luke and Yoda on Dagobah.
PT: The father
OT: The son
ST: The legacy
(But I agree that if there are no (important) Skywalker alive at the end of this trilogy to face a fourth trilogy down the line. I think they fucked up. Mock Star Wars for its small space all you want because of it being all about the same characters all the time -- but the Star Wars saga should be about the Skywalkers and the good and evil that lies within that family)