“Seattle is Dying” KOMO Doc.

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I watched the doc... 

    The west coast has always had issyes with homeless due to the mild weather... but Seattle has definitely changed since i went in 2005,  and now i'm not so sure i would have any interest in going back any time soon
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Meanwhile.......... Jeff Bezos is worth $130 billion and Bill Gates is worth $95 billion....

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    my2hands said:
    Meanwhile.......... Jeff Bezos is worth $130 billion and Bill Gates is worth $95 billion....

    Bezos... oh man... don't get me started.  :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,553
    Jason P said:
    Visit Detroit.   

    Fucking Seattle... boo hoo
    I think the west coast gets a bad rap because it’s more visible here. NYC has the highest rate of homelessness. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited April 2019
    Go Beavers said:
    Jason P said:
    Visit Detroit.   

    Fucking Seattle... boo hoo
    I think the west coast gets a bad rap because it’s more visible here. NYC has the highest rate of homelessness. 
    Over 63,000 homeless people in NYC, including those living in homeless shelters. 12,500 in Seattle. That is quite a difference. However, 8.4 million people live in New York city, and only 725,000 people live in Seattle. That means that 1.724% of the Seattle population is homeless, and only 0.75% of the NYC population is homeless. And Seattle is only a quarter of the size in terms of actual land mass, and the area where the homeless tend to actually live in is a minuscule fraction of the area they do in NYC. So yeah, that explains why it seems like and is a worse problem in Seattle.

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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,553
    PJ_Soul said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Jason P said:
    Visit Detroit.   

    Fucking Seattle... boo hoo
    I think the west coast gets a bad rap because it’s more visible here. NYC has the highest rate of homelessness. 
    Over 63,000 homeless people in NYC, including those living in homeless shelters. 12,500 in Seattle. That is quite a difference. However, 8.4 million people live in New York city, and only 725,000 people live in Seattle. That means that 1.724% of the Seattle population is homeless, and only 0.75% of the NYC population is homeless. And Seattle is only a quarter of the size in terms of actual land mass, and the area where the homeless tend to actually live in is a minuscule fraction of the area they do in NYC. So yeah, that explains why it seems like and is a worse problem in Seattle.
    Interesting map here, having DC, Boston and NYC as highest in rate per 10,000 residents. It can depend on how you look at the numbers. 

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    But damn, in both cases, that is a HIGH percentage of the population being homeless. People here in Vancouver are completely freaked out about the number of homeless people there are - everyone considers it to be at crisis levels and it's a major topic for our politicians - and the percentage of the population that is homeless in Vancouver proper is only 0.345%, which is still way too high obviously, because it should basically be 0% in countries with as much wealth as ours have.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,368
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited April 2019
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    I haven't been there for a pretty long while, but yeah, same here. I spent days there, walking all over the city day and night, and I only saw maybe 3 homeless people the entire time. I couldn't believe it, because it seems to much worse in Vancouver and feels ever-present wherever you go in the city, and our rate is apparently low?? Wtf. I practically had the impression that NYC had just about eradicated homelessness altogether just based on my experience! I mean, I knew that wasn't the case, but that's how it felt.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    Staten Island?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,553
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    Sarcasm? I can’t always tell. 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited April 2019
    I think NY has to provide them housing by law, a right to shelter... i remember reading that due to not enough shelter spaces the city spends massive amounts to house people in Hotels nightly, including nice hotels in Manhattan for $400-500 per night
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2018/03/16/city-spending-364m-per-year-on-hotels-for-homeless-people-318770
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    Shipped in boxcars to Seattle and San Francisco?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJ_Soul said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    I haven't been there for a pretty long while, but yeah, same here. I spent days there, walking all over the city day and night, and I only saw maybe 3 homeless people the entire time. I couldn't believe it, because it seems to much worse in Vancouver and feels ever-present wherever you go in the city, and our rate is apparently low?? Wtf. I practically had the impression that NYC had just about eradicated homelessness altogether just based on my experience! I mean, I knew that wasn't the case, but that's how it felt.
    Hastings Street is a surreal experience. It’s un-freaking-believable.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,553
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    Shipped in boxcars to Seattle and San Francisco?
    Sadly I think several communites have decided   dealing with homelessness means making them go somewhere else. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Go Beavers said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    Shipped in boxcars to Seattle and San Francisco?
    Sadly I think several communites have decided   dealing with homelessness means making them go somewhere else. 
    Just a few years ago, our small city of Placerville actually had a homeless "camp"- a section east of town where homeless people were allowed to set up tents, live, receive counseling.  Some kind of shower system was set up.    A lot of people brought food, clothing, soap, even books (from out local bookstore :smile: )  But things got out of hand- especially drugs- and it had to be closed down.  The trouble was internal, so-to-speak.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited April 2019
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I have no idea where NYC is hiding all these homeless...
    I haven't been there for a pretty long while, but yeah, same here. I spent days there, walking all over the city day and night, and I only saw maybe 3 homeless people the entire time. I couldn't believe it, because it seems to much worse in Vancouver and feels ever-present wherever you go in the city, and our rate is apparently low?? Wtf. I practically had the impression that NYC had just about eradicated homelessness altogether just based on my experience! I mean, I knew that wasn't the case, but that's how it felt.
    Hastings Street is a surreal experience. It’s un-freaking-believable.
    Yeah, it's totally fucked up in the downtown east side. The density of the homeless population there is insane, and the entire focus of authorities is to prevent OD deaths, not to stop public drug use. There are of course people there always trying to help these folks, but the services to get them off the streets just aren't there... and of course most of those folks are hard core addicts with mental illness, so it's very very difficult to get them help even when it is available. Most of them refuse it, or try it for a bit and then come right back onto the streets.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    It will not get any better, all these cities will continue to see the epidemic continue as the opioid crisis grows and as affordable living continues to be out of reach by many in these cities.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    His name was Connor Mackay. He died of a suspected overdose. He was 17
    https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/his-name-was-connor-mackay-he-died-of-a-suspected-fentanyl-overdose-he-was-17/wcm/da185360-dfb5-48c1-b278-6c85a69ba0f1?fbclid=IwAR0iejPtZkXknhmQ0ycHHEgkuWxAMq5f4rkUPHc_-KfwEEDxPZdZVz4auAE

    Small town not far from...it's everywhere.


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