Has any PJ song died faster and greater than "Who You Are"?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 13,290
edited March 12 in The Porch
Played 25 times our of 35 shows on the -96 tour -- to 2 times out of 67 shows in 98 and then died completely (until resurrected for a tour or two)
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  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 4,614
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 13,290
    edited March 12
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
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  • derbydavederbydave Columbus, OHPosts: 11,196
    Ole :rofl:

    '96: Seattle: Key Arena
    '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
    '00: Columbus: Polaris
    '03: Columbus: Germain
    '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
    '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
    '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
    '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
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  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitarPosts: 8,452
    i think it's difficult for them to play live
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  • derbydavederbydave Columbus, OHPosts: 11,196
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
    Where in your original post do you mention the song has to be a radio single??
    Your thread title is:
    Has ANY PJ song died faster & greater than "Who You Are"?

    '96: Seattle: Key Arena
    '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
    '00: Columbus: Polaris
    '03: Columbus: Germain
    '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
    '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
    '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
    '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
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  • bigdeathbigdeath ChicagoPosts: 44
    What about World Wide Suicide?  Was the lead single off the album

    Played 79 times on 06 tour (94% of shows)
    11 times on 07 tour (79% of shows)
    24 times during 08-13 tours
    Last time played 1/31/14
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 13,290
    edited March 12
    derbydave said:
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
    Where in your original post do you mention the song has to be a radio single??
    Your thread title is:
    Has ANY PJ song died faster & greater than "Who You Are"?

    It wasn't mentioned specifically - but implied in "greater" is that Who You Are - being a radio single and played more frequent on the -96 tour - fell greater than Get Right.

    Hopefully that makes my post more clear. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 3,549
    Yeah, it always bums me out that they lean so heavily on covers when they have plenty of their own tunes that never or rarely get played.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 13,290
    edited March 12
    bigdeath said:
    What about World Wide Suicide?  Was the lead single off the album

    Played 79 times on 06 tour (94% of shows)
    11 times on 07 tour (79% of shows)
    24 times during 08-13 tours
    Last time played 1/31/14
    It's so weird that, that song was stopped being played all together. The same with Fixer - played once in 2018?
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  • derbydavederbydave Columbus, OHPosts: 11,196
    derbydave said:
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
    Where in your original post do you mention the song has to be a radio single??
    Your thread title is:
    Has ANY PJ song died faster & greater than "Who You Are"?

    It wasn't mentioned specifically - but implied in "greater" is that Who You Are - being a radio single and played more frequent on the -96 tour - fell greater than Get Right.

    Hopefully that makes my post more clear. If that - than maybe what you fear can meet you half way!
    I guess my mind-reading skills aren't up to par.

    '96: Seattle: Key Arena
    '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
    '00: Columbus: Polaris
    '03: Columbus: Germain
    '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
    '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
    '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
    '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 13,290
    derbydave said:
    derbydave said:
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
    Where in your original post do you mention the song has to be a radio single??
    Your thread title is:
    Has ANY PJ song died faster & greater than "Who You Are"?

    It wasn't mentioned specifically - but implied in "greater" is that Who You Are - being a radio single and played more frequent on the -96 tour - fell greater than Get Right.

    Hopefully that makes my post more clear. If that - than maybe what you fear can meet you half way!
    I guess my mind-reading skills aren't up to par.
    Didn't need mind-reading. I argued for my case of "greater" in the post you quoted :)
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 47,221
    edited March 12
    Sirens.
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  • PB11041PB11041 EarthPosts: 1,307
    I think Who You Are was clearly more heavily phased out with Jacks leaving the band.  The only 2 times they played it in 1998 was during the OZ/New Zealand leg.  Same thing happened with In My Tree, they tried it twice with Matt but did get it off the ground again until 2000, and even then is clearly was not resonating as it was altered and played sparingly in 2003. 

    One they have very much struggled to embrace live is No Way.  Not sure why, because that song has such a good vibe but they just couldn't embrace it in the live show.  
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    1998 - 5/1, 8/22, 8/25, 8/26, 8/28, 9/8, 9/10, 9/11
    1999 - 10/30, 10/31 (left early due to flight grrr)
    2000 - 4/12, 8/4, 8/6, 8/23, 8/24, 8/25, 8/27
    2003 - 4/28, 4/29, 5/3, 6/29, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/9, 7/14
    2005 - 9/15, 9/16
    2006 - 5/12
    2008 - 6/25
    2013 - 7/16
    2016 - 4/29, 8/7
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 16,347
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
    It was a radio single
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 13,290
    igotid88 said:
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
    It was a radio single

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  • PB11041PB11041 EarthPosts: 1,307
    igotid88 said:
    PJNB said:
    Can't Keep
    Parting Ways
    Marker in the Sand
    Get Right

    All of these have a case plus many others. There are quite a few songs that were played a lot during the album tour then fell off the face of the earth. Get Right takes the cake on this one though imo. 
    Get Right wasn't a radio single though, and was "only" played 16 times out of 77 on that album tour. But yes.
    It was a radio single

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    His eminence has yet to show. 
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    1996 - 9/21, 9/28, 9/29
    1998 - 5/1, 8/22, 8/25, 8/26, 8/28, 9/8, 9/10, 9/11
    1999 - 10/30, 10/31 (left early due to flight grrr)
    2000 - 4/12, 8/4, 8/6, 8/23, 8/24, 8/25, 8/27
    2003 - 4/28, 4/29, 5/3, 6/29, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/9, 7/14
    2005 - 9/15, 9/16
    2006 - 5/12
    2008 - 6/25
    2013 - 7/16
    2016 - 4/29, 8/7
    2018 - 9/4

  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 5,074
     I clearly remember the Get Right debut on my favorite radio station at the time.  Didnt get a good response tho
  • evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,498
    Haha, I heard who you are right next to in my tree in Moline in 2014. :-P
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 14,337
    Played 25 times our of 35 shows on the -96 tour -- to 2 times out of 67 shows in 08 and then died completely (until resurrected for a tour or two)
    Think you meant to type 98 here.  In 08 they broke it out for half the tour (albeit the tour was only 15 shows).
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,964
    I definitely had no clue that get right was a radio single. It literally got zero air play here. 
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  • JbarkerJbarker AlbertaPosts: 528
    PB11041 said:
    I think Who You Are was clearly more heavily phased out with Jacks leaving the band.  The only 2 times they played it in 1998 was during the OZ/New Zealand leg.  Same thing happened with In My Tree, they tried it twice with Matt but did get it off the ground again until 2000, and even then is clearly was not resonating as it was altered and played sparingly in 2003. 

    One they have very much struggled to embrace live is No Way.  Not sure why, because that song has such a good vibe but they just couldn't embrace it in the live show.  

    This reason. Jacks sound. I do sometimes wonder while sitting in my tree, all the guests that come up on stage, to sing, play guitar, how often do they boot Mike off so a drummer can sit in? not counting HOF.

    At this stage I doubt Stone would care if Jack and Ed were to say... play either of those two songs at Ohana.

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 13,290
    Played 25 times our of 35 shows on the -96 tour -- to 2 times out of 67 shows in 08 and then died completely (until resurrected for a tour or two)
    Think you meant to type 98 here.  In 08 they broke it out for half the tour (albeit the tour was only 15 shows).
    Yes. My mistake. 

    Lucky to get it in 2014! Think it's a nice song.






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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 18,964
    Damn I just did some research and saw that I haven't seen "who you are" live since 2008!  Eleven years ago!!!  wow.
    I've seen it four times and the breakdown is:

    9/29/96

    6/19/08
    6/22/08
    6/25/08
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  • PB11041PB11041 EarthPosts: 1,307
    mcgruff10 said:
    I definitely had no clue that get right was a radio single. It literally got zero air play here. 
    radio was dying a cold hard death most everywhere in 2002-03 thanks to Clear Channel consolidation.  I recall like a smidge amount of playing of I am Mine, then mostly silence.  When the self titled record came out in 2006 I had been living up in the capital region of upstate NY for a couple of years at that point, there is a station out of Vermont WEQX, they played World Wide Suicide frequently, but the standard rock Clear Channel stations not so much.  Seismic shift.  It all really began post Yield, the formats all began to consolidate and the playlists were formulaic.   By the time Riot Act came along, not a chance.   Wasn't like 1992 -1995 when the stations played whatever they wanted.   
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
    1996 - 9/21, 9/28, 9/29
    1998 - 5/1, 8/22, 8/25, 8/26, 8/28, 9/8, 9/10, 9/11
    1999 - 10/30, 10/31 (left early due to flight grrr)
    2000 - 4/12, 8/4, 8/6, 8/23, 8/24, 8/25, 8/27
    2003 - 4/28, 4/29, 5/3, 6/29, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/9, 7/14
    2005 - 9/15, 9/16
    2006 - 5/12
    2008 - 6/25
    2013 - 7/16
    2016 - 4/29, 8/7
    2018 - 9/4

  • PB11041 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I definitely had no clue that get right was a radio single. It literally got zero air play here. 
    radio was dying a cold hard death most everywhere in 2002-03 thanks to Clear Channel consolidation.  I recall like a smidge amount of playing of I am Mine, then mostly silence.  When the self titled record came out in 2006 I had been living up in the capital region of upstate NY for a couple of years at that point, there is a station out of Vermont WEQX, they played World Wide Suicide frequently, but the standard rock Clear Channel stations not so much.  Seismic shift.  It all really began post Yield, the formats all began to consolidate and the playlists were formulaic.   By the time Riot Act came along, not a chance.   Wasn't like 1992 -1995 when the stations played whatever they wanted.   
    Good point. 
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  • PB11041PB11041 EarthPosts: 1,307
    PB11041 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I definitely had no clue that get right was a radio single. It literally got zero air play here. 
    radio was dying a cold hard death most everywhere in 2002-03 thanks to Clear Channel consolidation.  I recall like a smidge amount of playing of I am Mine, then mostly silence.  When the self titled record came out in 2006 I had been living up in the capital region of upstate NY for a couple of years at that point, there is a station out of Vermont WEQX, they played World Wide Suicide frequently, but the standard rock Clear Channel stations not so much.  Seismic shift.  It all really began post Yield, the formats all began to consolidate and the playlists were formulaic.   By the time Riot Act came along, not a chance.   Wasn't like 1992 -1995 when the stations played whatever they wanted.   
    Good point. 
    Often amazed to look back and see how much airtime Black, Yellow Ledbetter, Corduroy, Betterman got without being released as singles.  There is a weird promo of the latter two that seems sketchy in terms of its authenticity (not Sony/Epic tied)  Ledbetter was yes a b-side to a commercially released single, but who played a b-side on the radio, that was a different world. 
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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    1996 - 9/21, 9/28, 9/29
    1998 - 5/1, 8/22, 8/25, 8/26, 8/28, 9/8, 9/10, 9/11
    1999 - 10/30, 10/31 (left early due to flight grrr)
    2000 - 4/12, 8/4, 8/6, 8/23, 8/24, 8/25, 8/27
    2003 - 4/28, 4/29, 5/3, 6/29, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/9, 7/14
    2005 - 9/15, 9/16
    2006 - 5/12
    2008 - 6/25
    2013 - 7/16
    2016 - 4/29, 8/7
    2018 - 9/4

  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 30,695
    PB11041 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I definitely had no clue that get right was a radio single. It literally got zero air play here. 
    radio was dying a cold hard death most everywhere in 2002-03 thanks to Clear Channel consolidation.  I recall like a smidge amount of playing of I am Mine, then mostly silence.  When the self titled record came out in 2006 I had been living up in the capital region of upstate NY for a couple of years at that point, there is a station out of Vermont WEQX, they played World Wide Suicide frequently, but the standard rock Clear Channel stations not so much.  Seismic shift.  It all really began post Yield, the formats all began to consolidate and the playlists were formulaic.   By the time Riot Act came along, not a chance.   Wasn't like 1992 -1995 when the stations played whatever they wanted.   
    Get Right was technically a promotional single


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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 4,893
    edited March 12
    A) Who You Are is a great song, especially the RVM version.

    B1) Has any (modern) B-side ever gotten as much radio love as YLed?
    B2) Speaking of that, this site mentions YLed as a B-side to Daughter. It isn't wrong, but...

    C) Whoever went to Moline, or really any "album show" doesn't have to brag. Grrrr. (Haha, all good...brag on!)
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  • smithnicsmithnic Posts: 1,510
    i think it's difficult for them to play live
    Particularly the drums I think.  I'm not a drummer but the time in which that song wasn't played coincided with Matt taking over drums and likely it took awhile for him to get it (I would think). 

    As to the B-sides being hits I think that was intentional after Vs.  Even early on they didn't want Black to be a single and the longevity of the band is due at least in part the pulling back and not having catchy singles and not chasing that next big thing.  No one ever gets sick of too much Pearl Jam, now more than ever.  They always leave you wanting more and more which is why they still exist and have such a long career.  
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  • PB11041PB11041 EarthPosts: 1,307
    PB11041 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I definitely had no clue that get right was a radio single. It literally got zero air play here. 
    radio was dying a cold hard death most everywhere in 2002-03 thanks to Clear Channel consolidation.  I recall like a smidge amount of playing of I am Mine, then mostly silence.  When the self titled record came out in 2006 I had been living up in the capital region of upstate NY for a couple of years at that point, there is a station out of Vermont WEQX, they played World Wide Suicide frequently, but the standard rock Clear Channel stations not so much.  Seismic shift.  It all really began post Yield, the formats all began to consolidate and the playlists were formulaic.   By the time Riot Act came along, not a chance.   Wasn't like 1992 -1995 when the stations played whatever they wanted.   
    Get Right was technically a promotional single


    Correct, but that is really the sole purpose of promo singles to put them on the radio vs retail. 
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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    1996 - 9/21, 9/28, 9/29
    1998 - 5/1, 8/22, 8/25, 8/26, 8/28, 9/8, 9/10, 9/11
    1999 - 10/30, 10/31 (left early due to flight grrr)
    2000 - 4/12, 8/4, 8/6, 8/23, 8/24, 8/25, 8/27
    2003 - 4/28, 4/29, 5/3, 6/29, 7/5, 7/6, 7/8, 7/9, 7/14
    2005 - 9/15, 9/16
    2006 - 5/12
    2008 - 6/25
    2013 - 7/16
    2016 - 4/29, 8/7
    2018 - 9/4

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