The Democratic Candidates

Spiritual_Chaos

In the US you have to be poor to be of the opinion that the rich should pay more taxes then they do...

... why should Bernie even have to answer this... (good answer though)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9IT0AKaTo

Hi!

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

Town halls just ok for me so far. I think Pete’s gonna bring it tonight.

You're missing hockey.  Plenty of time for politics later!

The Tigers have a doubleheader today so maybe I’ll take a break then. 
I fell asleep during Harris’s town hall. Did anybody watch Pete? Just wondering how he did because I wasn’t that impressed with any of the other 3 1/2 I watched. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Hi! said:

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

Town halls just ok for me so far. I think Pete’s gonna bring it tonight.

You're missing hockey.  Plenty of time for politics later!

The Tigers have a doubleheader today so maybe I’ll take a break then. 
I fell asleep during Harris’s town hall. Did anybody watch Pete? Just wondering how he did because I wasn’t that impressed with any of the other 3 1/2 I watched. 

He's turning more and more into a robot the more I see of him. Same answers, clearly thought out and planned. 

More life in Bernies.

But of the stuff I saw he did good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAWVY7PXR0E

my2hands

brianlux said:

 

my2hands said:

Mayor Pete looks like he's 15... i like the guy so far, but would be worried to death running a 15yo in the general. He just looks WAY too young, and i think it would hurt him

He needs a beard asap lol

LOL

Yeah, Pete a young 'un but (I think I mentioned this elsewhere) good leader can be young:  William Pitt the Younger is a prime example.  He became Prime Minister of England at the ripe old age of 24 and, along with other fine accomplishments, supported William Wilberforce in abolishing slavery  in Great Britain.  A young, ambitious motivated, intelligent younger person may be just the thing this ailing country needs.

I'm not worried about if he would be a great leader, furst i need to know if he can win the general... he is young, but he looks even younger and that scares me with tge general electorate 

mcgruff10

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

Come on Bernie.

Student loan forgiveness Senator Warren?  You have to be kidding me.  

Booker suggests reparations for descendants of slaves?  What the heck?

The Democrats just can't seem to get their shit together.  

tbergs

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

Come on Bernie.

Student loan forgiveness Senator Warren?  You have to be kidding me.  

Booker suggests reparations for descendants of slaves?  What the heck?

The Democrats just can't seem to get their shit together.  

I don't like Sanders or Booker and Warren can't beat Trump, not that she isn't better than him, but she'd never beat him.

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

In a functional democracy, that is not an uncommon right or an uncommon stance to have. Don't see how that can be seen as outrageous by someone in a functional democracy. Agree or not.

I do understand though, you have never experienced a functional democracy. 

cincybearcat

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

Come on Bernie.

Student loan forgiveness Senator Warren?  You have to be kidding me.  

Booker suggests reparations for descendants of slaves?  What the heck?

The Democrats just can't seem to get their shit together.  

It's like they are trying to lose.....again.

Stupid primary process makes candidates pander to the radical part of their party.  

Spiritual_Chaos

"My father fled Soviet Union, how can you defend proposing Social Democratic ideas that make a bunch of European countries work a lot better than ours?" 

Why all these stupid questions in that town hall.

Spiritual_Chaos

impeach the crowd in the Town Halls

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

Come on Bernie.

Student loan forgiveness Senator Warren?  You have to be kidding me.  

Booker suggests reparations for descendants of slaves?  What the heck?

The Democrats just can't seem to get their shit together.  

It's like they are trying to lose.....again.

Stupid primary process makes candidates pander to the radical part of their party.  

Maybe they stand up for things they believe? 

I get that is almost unheard of in politics. And I don't see Booker as someone doing it. But still.

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

In a functional democracy, that is not an uncommon right or an uncommon stance to have. Don't see how that can be seen as outrageous by someone in a functional democracy. Agree or not.

I do understand though, you have never experienced a functional democracy. 

I can’t give a rats ass what you and your high horse are saying, felons should not vote. Period. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

In a functional democracy, that is not an uncommon right or an uncommon stance to have. Don't see how that can be seen as outrageous by someone in a functional democracy. Agree or not.

I do understand though, you have never experienced a functional democracy. 

I can’t give a rats ass what you and your high horse are saying, felons should not vote. Period. 

In The Banana Republic Of America maybe that would not cross your mind. Period.

(I personally do not see it as clear cut right either)

pjhawks

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

Come on Bernie.

Student loan forgiveness Senator Warren?  You have to be kidding me.  

Booker suggests reparations for descendants of slaves?  What the heck?

The Democrats just can't seem to get their shit together.  

agree. Dems have to do better than this.

Spiritual_Chaos

What is the argument for student loan forgiveness? That it was wrong or to aggressive and people have been wronged, or what is the idea based on?

cincybearcat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

Come on Bernie.

Student loan forgiveness Senator Warren?  You have to be kidding me.  

Booker suggests reparations for descendants of slaves?  What the heck?

The Democrats just can't seem to get their shit together.  

It's like they are trying to lose.....again.

Stupid primary process makes candidates pander to the radical part of their party.  

Maybe they stand up for things they believe? 

I get that is almost unheard of in politics. And I don't see Booker as someone doing it. But still.

Sure...or they pander.  And pandering only gets you so far.  I guess trump showed you can win with a crazy base.

tbergs

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

In a functional democracy, that is not an uncommon right or an uncommon stance to have. Don't see how that can be seen as outrageous by someone in a functional democracy. Agree or not.

I do understand though, you have never experienced a functional democracy. 

I can’t give a rats ass what you and your high horse are saying, felons should not vote. Period. 

Besides it being just what we have been doing, what reason is there for them not to be allowed to vote? I can see not allowing someone to vote who is committed to a mental or state institution, but beyond that, why shouldn't felons be allowed to vote? Millions of people who have done much worse deeds than some of the incarcerated individuals you are referring to are still voting. I think the rule that felons not be allowed to vote doesn't make any sense anymore. It's too generic.

pjhawks

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

In a functional democracy, that is not an uncommon right or an uncommon stance to have. Don't see how that can be seen as outrageous by someone in a functional democracy. Agree or not.

I do understand though, you have never experienced a functional democracy. 

I can’t give a rats ass what you and your high horse are saying, felons should not vote. Period. 

Besides it being just what we have been doing, what reason is there for them not to be allowed to vote? I can see not allowing someone to vote who is committed to a mental or state institution, but beyond that, why shouldn't felons be allowed to vote? Millions of people who have done much worse deeds than some of the incarcerated individuals you are referring to are still voting. I think the rule that felons not be allowed to vote doesn't make any sense anymore. It's too generic.

I think if they served their time they should be able to vote but not while they are incarcerated.

mrussel1

pjhawks said:

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

In a functional democracy, that is not an uncommon right or an uncommon stance to have. Don't see how that can be seen as outrageous by someone in a functional democracy. Agree or not.

I do understand though, you have never experienced a functional democracy. 

I can’t give a rats ass what you and your high horse are saying, felons should not vote. Period. 

Besides it being just what we have been doing, what reason is there for them not to be allowed to vote? I can see not allowing someone to vote who is committed to a mental or state institution, but beyond that, why shouldn't felons be allowed to vote? Millions of people who have done much worse deeds than some of the incarcerated individuals you are referring to are still voting. I think the rule that felons not be allowed to vote doesn't make any sense anymore. It's too generic.

I think if they served their time they should be able to vote but not while they are incarcerated.

This is where I am as well.  Pay your dues first. 

cincybearcat

pjhawks said:

tbergs said:

mcgruff10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

ugh.  Bernie Sanders is starting to wear thin on me. He just said he would be in favor of felons having the right to vote while IN prison. 

In a functional democracy, that is not an uncommon right or an uncommon stance to have. Don't see how that can be seen as outrageous by someone in a functional democracy. Agree or not.

I do understand though, you have never experienced a functional democracy. 

I can’t give a rats ass what you and your high horse are saying, felons should not vote. Period. 

Besides it being just what we have been doing, what reason is there for them not to be allowed to vote? I can see not allowing someone to vote who is committed to a mental or state institution, but beyond that, why shouldn't felons be allowed to vote? Millions of people who have done much worse deeds than some of the incarcerated individuals you are referring to are still voting. I think the rule that felons not be allowed to vote doesn't make any sense anymore. It's too generic.

I think if they served their time they should be able to vote but not while they are incarcerated.

This is my belief as well.  Why would we let someone vote that doesn't even get to decide when they can eat, sleep, etc.  Allowing inmates to vote seems pretty crazy to me.  But if someone has an interesting point as to why I'd like to hear it.