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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    Jason P said:
    ^ SNL Biden:  "I'm like plastic straws.  I've been around for forever, I've always worked, but now you're mad at me?"
    I laughed so hard at that. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited September 2019
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    Yes. And either, people know this and are disingenuously hyperbolic by choice (which is eyerollingly ignorant) or it's total crazy town in here.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    Regardless, mass confiscation is not an appropriate approach to the situation.  And that rhetoric will do nothing but harm future gun control efforts.  If you support mass confiscation, how exactly do you think that will methodically work?   
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,357
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    umm the murder of 4 students at Kent State by National Guardsmen(agents of the government) is lost on you when he made the statement that only the government should have these weapons while AT Kent State?

    Fucking clueless. That choice of venue to make such an arguement. valid as it may be to a point, precludes him from the job he is seeking.

    I'll give him this though, he got attention as a failing candidate.......
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,620
    mickeyrat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    umm the murder of 4 students at Kent State by National Guardsmen(agents of the government) is lost on you when he made the statement that only the government should have these weapons while AT Kent State?


    This isn't why many are upset with Beto's comments, but it is a fair criticism. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    Regardless, mass confiscation is not an appropriate approach to the situation.  And that rhetoric will do nothing but harm future gun control efforts.  If you support mass confiscation, how exactly do you think that will methodically work?   
    Ok, serious question here.  

    Why is it terrible to be talking about confiscating certain guns as  a starting point for gun control, but saying everyone should have whatever gun and ammo they want and try to take my guns from me...that's an ok gun control starting point?

    In a negotiation, I'm pretty sure you don;t start with All or none.  And you also don;t give away too much of your position right from the start when the other person is starting from an All or None position.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    edited September 2019
    mickeyrat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    umm the murder of 4 students at Kent State by National Guardsmen(agents of the government) is lost on you when he made the statement that only the government should have these weapons while AT Kent State?

    Fucking clueless. That choice of venue to make such an arguement. valid as it may be to a point, precludes him from the job he is seeking.

    I'll give him this though, he got attention as a failing candidate.......
    agreed. this level of tone-deafness is astonishing. 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,448
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    Regardless, mass confiscation is not an appropriate approach to the situation.  And that rhetoric will do nothing but harm future gun control efforts.  If you support mass confiscation, how exactly do you think that will methodically work?   
    I find it hard to believe you will ever change your opinion on this one. The right has constructed a ‘slippery slope’ mentality where you feel the left asks for a little and will take a lot, and if you come in with that incorrect preconceived notion, every control measure has the potential to lead to (and the goal of) ‘taking something more’ as new precedents are created, and will be perceived by you as a step towards what you feel is a DNC plan to rid you of a Constitutional right. You’re wrong, by the way, but right or wrong don’t matter if you your respect for your own opinion outweigh the logic (or lack thereof) of your conclusion.   
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited September 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    umm the murder of 4 students at Kent State by National Guardsmen(agents of the government) is lost on you when he made the statement that only the government should have these weapons while AT Kent State?

    Fucking clueless. That choice of venue to make such an arguement. valid as it may be to a point, precludes him from the job he is seeking.

    I'll give him this though, he got attention as a failing candidate.......
    agreed. this level of tone-deafness is astonishing. 
    That might be true.

    But is not the reason why people shit on him in here about it. 

    (it's because of their own shitty views on the actual subject matter)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,357
    edited September 2019
    JimmyV said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    umm the murder of 4 students at Kent State by National Guardsmen(agents of the government) is lost on you when he made the statement that only the government should have these weapons while AT Kent State?


    This isn't why many are upset with Beto's comments, but it is a fair criticism. 
    Beto is free to say whatever he likes. Does ANYONE actually believe confiscation is possible?

    first , for me, is the insensitivity of presenting a go nowhere idea, at the campus that had this experience.  A distant second is his idea. Were that attempt to be made, just how does this get accomplished, assuming gop goes along with it? How does it happen without major bloodshed?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited September 2019
    mickeyrat said:

     How does it happen with(out (im presuming?)) major bloodshed?
    Why would there be "major bloodshed"? 

    Sounds to me like if it would cause major bloodshed -- wouldn't that be reason enough in and of itself to remove these rights?

    And there wasn't any in Australia to my knowledge?

    (please delete this post if its in the risk of losing posting privileges)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,549
    Hi! said:
    One night debate in Oct. 

    12 have qualified. So with 1 night it will be an even more crowded stage than all of the other debates.

    Let's face it, even with this latest scandal trump is getting reelected.  Even a funny SNL skit with extra star power brought in cant teach the democrats reason.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,549
    mickeyrat said:
    JimmyV said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Talk about an over reaction by the gun nutters.  He is talking assault rifles and semi auto...which no citizen should be allowed to own.    
    umm the murder of 4 students at Kent State by National Guardsmen(agents of the government) is lost on you when he made the statement that only the government should have these weapons while AT Kent State?


    This isn't why many are upset with Beto's comments, but it is a fair criticism. 
    Beto is free to say whatever he likes. Does ANYONE actually believe confiscation is possible?

    first , for me, is the insensitivity of presenting a go nowhere idea, at the campus that had this experience.  A distant second is his idea. Were that attempt to be made, just how does this get accomplished, assuming gop goes along with it? How does it happen without major bloodshed?

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,357
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mickeyrat said:

     How does it happen with(out (im presuming?)) major bloodshed?
    Why would there be "major bloodshed"? 

    Sounds to me like if it would cause major bloodshed -- wouldn't that be reason enough in and of itself to remove these rights?

    And there wasn't any in Australia to my knowledge?

    (please delete this post if its in the risk of losing posting privileges)
    how compliant do you think gun owners would be in the US? hmm? voluntary buyback does jack shit here. Government wants them, they gotta take them. otherwise the whole exercise is bullshit talking point.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,237
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mickeyrat said:

     How does it happen with(out (im presuming?)) major bloodshed?
    Why would there be "major bloodshed"? 

    Sounds to me like if it would cause major bloodshed -- wouldn't that be reason enough in and of itself to remove these rights?

    And there wasn't any in Australia to my knowledge?

    (please delete this post if its in the risk of losing posting privileges)
    how compliant do you think gun owners would be in the US? hmm? voluntary buyback does jack shit here. Government wants them, they gotta take them. otherwise the whole exercise is bullshit talking point.
    We just went from 15 to 10 round mags in new jersey and literally not one person turned a 15 round mag in lol.  We are talking magazines here, not rifles.  No way people voluntary turn in their rifles.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mickeyrat said:

     How does it happen with(out (im presuming?)) major bloodshed?
    Why would there be "major bloodshed"? 

    Sounds to me like if it would cause major bloodshed -- wouldn't that be reason enough in and of itself to remove these rights?

    And there wasn't any in Australia to my knowledge?

    (please delete this post if its in the risk of losing posting privileges)
    how compliant do you think gun owners would be in the US? hmm? voluntary buyback does jack shit here. Government wants them, they gotta take them. otherwise the whole exercise is bullshit talking point.
    A bullshit talking point that gets some people really riled up...if it's just a talking point why care?

    I'm really tired of the if it's not perfect then do nothing crowd.  That's stupid for everything.  Why does it have to be perfect?  Do something...start...lack of any action is pathetic weakness on the part of the NRA and those politicians they have in their pockets.  

    If you bought a fixer upper house, do you not start fixing it up cause you can only fix the fucking kitchen first? Please.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mickeyrat said:

     How does it happen with(out (im presuming?)) major bloodshed?
    Why would there be "major bloodshed"? 

    Sounds to me like if it would cause major bloodshed -- wouldn't that be reason enough in and of itself to remove these rights?

    And there wasn't any in Australia to my knowledge?

    (please delete this post if its in the risk of losing posting privileges)
    how compliant do you think gun owners would be in the US? hmm? voluntary buyback does jack shit here. Government wants them, they gotta take them. otherwise the whole exercise is bullshit talking point.
    First off, are the rifles registered to people in the US? As in, is there a database where one can see who owns the specific rifles?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    mcgruff10 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mickeyrat said:

     How does it happen with(out (im presuming?)) major bloodshed?
    Why would there be "major bloodshed"? 

    Sounds to me like if it would cause major bloodshed -- wouldn't that be reason enough in and of itself to remove these rights?

    And there wasn't any in Australia to my knowledge?

    (please delete this post if its in the risk of losing posting privileges)
    how compliant do you think gun owners would be in the US? hmm? voluntary buyback does jack shit here. Government wants them, they gotta take them. otherwise the whole exercise is bullshit talking point.
    We just went from 15 to 10 round mags in new jersey and literally not one person turned a 15 round mag in lol.  We are talking magazines here, not rifles.  No way people voluntary turn in their rifles.  
    !!! SO LETS DO NOTHING !!!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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