Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
Yes he approved. Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens. Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.
And so if you want a comparative, I never wanted to punch Bush in the nose, or Cheney. I disagreed vehemently with their policies on a host of issues, but Trump does not deserve the same respect.
That’s a tough one. I mean, Bush wouldn’t have kids locked up under a bridge in Texas, but the whole Iraq war and having to see bumper stickers that read:Marriage =one man one woman, for two years was annoying. Bush vs. Trump really needs it’s own thread, lol.
I’m willing to bet W. never actually cared, but used it as a divisive election issue. Obama can say what he wants, I think it wasn’t politically advantageous to be for gay marriage at the time. He faked right and went left.
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
Yes he approved. Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens. Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.
I like the one where he’s holding the Nintendo controller better, lol. I actually looked up the captain phillips thing too and did a quick glance at an article. He approved the operation and laid down 2 guiding principles and I think the Military took it from there.
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
Yes he approved. Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens. Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
Yes he approved. Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens. Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.
Look at all those deep state traitors.
They don't love America.. I don't see one person hugging a flag. Not one.
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
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That was the strategy of his Republican contenders and Hillary. Didn't work.
I definitely agree that was the Republican contenders, but the media and Hillary seemed to make it all about Trump and his lack of character Actually, Jeb went after Trump pretty hard during some of the debates and was embarrassingly ineffective. I honestly can’t remember one of Hillary’s policy proposals, I do remember her calling him Putin’s Puppet in a debate.
Well, in his interview with Bill Maher last night, Pete Buttigieg said exactly that: Dem candidates need to make the election about how they will help average Americans, not about how the orange menace is a horrible person.
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
Yes he approved. Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens. Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.
I like the one where he’s holding the Nintendo controller better, lol. I actually looked up the captain phillips thing too and did a quick glance at an article. He approved the operation and laid down 2 guiding principles and I think the Military took it from there.
Hey grandma, it's a Dual Shock controller. Not everything video game related is "a nintendo".
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
Yes he approved. Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens. Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.
I like the one where he’s holding the Nintendo controller better, lol. I actually looked up the captain phillips thing too and did a quick glance at an article. He approved the operation and laid down 2 guiding principles and I think the Military took it from there.
Hey grandma, it's a Dual Shock controller. Not everything video game related is "a nintendo".
I stand corrected.
Here is a Nintendo one for ya:
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FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
I agree. I think he's just a bit of a doofusy guy. "An awkward clod"- that's even better. The word "clod"- I love it. It's so... dorky? LOL Anyway, I don't mean that as a put down but more like, oh good old uncle Joe. No doubt he's been coached on all that some time back. I would think by now it's a non-issue.
P.S. Clod, doofusy, dorky? Yeah, I admit it, I've got some of that.
Sheesh- I shouldn't post shit after a couple glasses of wine.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals. They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
Yes he approved. Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens. Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.
I like the one where he’s holding the Nintendo controller better, lol. I actually looked up the captain phillips thing too and did a quick glance at an article. He approved the operation and laid down 2 guiding principles and I think the Military took it from there.
Hey grandma, it's a Dual Shock controller. Not everything video game related is "a nintendo".
I stand corrected.
Here is a Nintendo one for ya:
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
I'm glad to see this. I always thought it was clumsy not perverted, but I'm a guy.
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
If it was Mike Pence, or any other GOP, would you honestly feel the same?
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
If it was Mike Pence, or any other GOP, would you honestly feel the same?
Yeah I don’t get the explaining away of Biden’s behavior.
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
If it was Mike Pence, or any other GOP, would you honestly feel the same?
Yeah I don’t get the explaining away of Biden’s behavior.
Because Biden is a Democrat...
His creepy behaviour is just innocent. Don't you walk up behind people and smell there hair, maybe give them an innocent kiss...completely normal behaviour.
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
If it was Mike Pence, or any other GOP, would you honestly feel the same?
Yeah I don’t get the explaining away of Biden’s behavior.
Because Biden is a Democrat...
His creepy behaviour is just innocent. Don't you walk up behind people and smell there hair, maybe give them an innocent kiss...completely normal behaviour.
Nothing creepy here...
That's a photoshopped photo. Brianlux already shared it. You've been had. And that is Trump's hand, look at the tiny fingers.
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
If it was Mike Pence, or any other GOP, would you honestly feel the same?
Yeah I don’t get the explaining away of Biden’s behavior.
So to be clear on the 'explaining away', are you saying that the NV assemblywoman's accusation is disqualifying?
And Pence is a terrible example because Mother doesn't allow him to be near other women. I'm sorry, but that is way more creepy and weird than anything Joe Biden has ever done in his life.
There are plenty of non photo shopped Biden experiences
And how many of those experiences have turned into accusations and lawsuits? The only one I know of is this one recently. Isn't it for a woman to at least start the conversation with how she felt? Or does the media get to be judge jury and executioner?
FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
If it was Mike Pence, or any other GOP, would you honestly feel the same?
Yeah I don’t get the explaining away of Biden’s behavior.
Because Biden is a Democrat...
His creepy behaviour is just innocent. Don't you walk up behind people and smell there hair, maybe give them an innocent kiss...completely normal behaviour.
Nothing creepy here...
That's a photoshopped photo. Brianlux already shared it. You've been had. And that is Trump's hand, look at the tiny fingers.
Won't be the first time I've been had. My comment still stands, though. He is a democrat on site that is primarily democratically supported site will give him a pass...
There are plenty of non photo shopped Biden experiences
And how many of those experiences have turned into accusations and lawsuits? The only one I know of is this one recently. Isn't it for a woman to at least start the conversation with how she felt? Or does the media get to be judge jury and executioner?
I would never kiss and smell a women's head that hardly know (or even know very well). Not in a 1000 years. I wouldn't even ever consider doing it as the thought of doing so would never even enter my mind as a rational thought.
There are plenty of non photo shopped Biden experiences
And how many of those experiences have turned into accusations and lawsuits? The only one I know of is this one recently. Isn't it for a woman to at least start the conversation with how she felt? Or does the media get to be judge jury and executioner?
There are plenty of non photo shopped Biden experiences
And how many of those experiences have turned into accusations and lawsuits? The only one I know of is this one recently. Isn't it for a woman to at least start the conversation with how she felt? Or does the media get to be judge jury and executioner?
Explaining away....
So do you think it's disqualifying or not?
Why does it have to be so black/white?
It's a fair discussion, Uncle Joe has earned it with some of his creepy behavior... interested to see how this goes in the primary
There are plenty of non photo shopped Biden experiences
And how many of those experiences have turned into accusations and lawsuits? The only one I know of is this one recently. Isn't it for a woman to at least start the conversation with how she felt? Or does the media get to be judge jury and executioner?
Explaining away....
So do you think it's disqualifying or not?
Why does it have to be so black/white?
It's a fair discussion, Uncle Joe has earned it with some of his creepy behavior... interested to see how this goes in the primary
Because any discussion is evidently "explaining away". Therefore it must be black and white. We were discussion and Cincy made his declaration, so I want to know if it's disqualifying for the POTUS or not.
There are plenty of non photo shopped Biden experiences
And how many of those experiences have turned into accusations and lawsuits? The only one I know of is this one recently. Isn't it for a woman to at least start the conversation with how she felt? Or does the media get to be judge jury and executioner?
Explaining away....
So do you think it's disqualifying or not?
I think that’s a question for everyone to answer on their own. I won’t vote for Joe Biden unless he is up against a bigger creep.
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Here is a Nintendo one for ya:
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-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
His creepy behaviour is just innocent. Don't you walk up behind people and smell there hair, maybe give them an innocent kiss...completely normal behaviour.
Nothing creepy here...
And Pence is a terrible example because Mother doesn't allow him to be near other women. I'm sorry, but that is way more creepy and weird than anything Joe Biden has ever done in his life.
It's a fair discussion, Uncle Joe has earned it with some of his creepy behavior... interested to see how this goes in the primary