Poll--The Weakest Link: Led Zeppelin's 'Led Zeppelin IV' Round 4 (Levee is Champion)

jeffbr

When the Levee Breaks

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

cutz said:

I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV.  Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!

Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.

Enjoyed this Album choice. 

Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness. 

It's a fantastic song. I don't really want to listen to it anymore (not to be hip, lol, nor because I don't think it's a masterpiece, but because it really did just come to bore me a little bit because of the ridiculous number of times in my life I've heard it), but that doesn't make it any less fantastic. But sorry, aren't our "weakest links" the ones we don't want to listen to? Or are we supposed to be making choices based on, like, a "professional" view of the songs, without bringing what we actually want to listen to least into it? If so, then yeah, STH should win this album.... But I didn't think that was what we were doing!

Great question. The only guideline is to pick the "weakest link". I think overplay is a lazy way to determine that, and would logically result in the least played song winning. In many cases the least played song on an album is the least played for a reason. But if overplayed means you can no longer listen to it, I guess that could lead it to be considered weakest. It just strikes me as a strange way to think about a song being weak. But for this poll, weakness isn't defined, so to each their own! I bought this album in 1976/77 and have loved every track since then, overplayed or not, so this was a tough one! 

PJ_Soul

Stairway To Heaven

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

cutz said:

I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV.  Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!

Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.

Enjoyed this Album choice. 

Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness. 

It's a fantastic song. I don't really want to listen to it anymore (not to be hip, lol, nor because I don't think it's a masterpiece, but because it really did just come to bore me a little bit because of the ridiculous number of times in my life I've heard it), but that doesn't make it any less fantastic. But sorry, aren't our "weakest links" the ones we don't want to listen to? Or are we supposed to be making choices based on, like, a "professional" view of the songs, without bringing what we actually want to listen to least into it? If so, then yeah, STH should win this album.... But I didn't think that was what we were doing!

Great question. The only guideline is to pick the "weakest link". I think overplay is a lazy way to determine that, and would logically result in the least played song winning. In many cases the least played song on an album is the least played for a reason. But if overplayed means you can no longer listen to it, I guess that could lead it to be considered weakest. It just strikes me as a strange way to think about a song being weak. But for this poll, weakness isn't defined, so to each their own! I bought this album in 1976/77 and have loved every track since then, overplayed or not, so this was a tough one! 

I don't think your logic works TBH. Being overplayed isn't on a sliding scale.

mcgruff10

When the Levee Breaks

HesCalledDyer said:

When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won.  I plan on doing that again with this series.  It's like a mixtape of collective minds.

Can you inbox my the winners from each album when you get a chance?  Thanks bud. @HesCalledDyer

jeffbr

When the Levee Breaks

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

cutz said:

I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV.  Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!

Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.

Enjoyed this Album choice. 

Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness. 

It's a fantastic song. I don't really want to listen to it anymore (not to be hip, lol, nor because I don't think it's a masterpiece, but because it really did just come to bore me a little bit because of the ridiculous number of times in my life I've heard it), but that doesn't make it any less fantastic. But sorry, aren't our "weakest links" the ones we don't want to listen to? Or are we supposed to be making choices based on, like, a "professional" view of the songs, without bringing what we actually want to listen to least into it? If so, then yeah, STH should win this album.... But I didn't think that was what we were doing!

Great question. The only guideline is to pick the "weakest link". I think overplay is a lazy way to determine that, and would logically result in the least played song winning. In many cases the least played song on an album is the least played for a reason. But if overplayed means you can no longer listen to it, I guess that could lead it to be considered weakest. It just strikes me as a strange way to think about a song being weak. But for this poll, weakness isn't defined, so to each their own! I bought this album in 1976/77 and have loved every track since then, overplayed or not, so this was a tough one! 

I don't think your logic works TBH. Being overplayed isn't on a sliding scale.

Hmmm, is it binary then? At what point is that switch thrown?

mcgruff10

When the Levee Breaks

What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too?  Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it.  Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe  present tense?  

dankind

Stairway To Heaven

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won.  I plan on doing that again with this series.  It's like a mixtape of collective minds.

Good idea! Post it to Spotify please.

Ooh! Twice in one day!

https://youtu.be/59Hj7bp38f8

jjflash

When the Levee Breaks

Had to go w/ Stairway simply b/c it's an original (some may debate that ) and Levee is an outstanding cover.
#goingtocaliforniafortheWIN

SmallestOceans

Stairway To Heaven

mcgruff10 said:

What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too?  Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it.  Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe  present tense?  

Red Mosquito

njnancy

Stairway To Heaven

@MedozK I voted, obviously ^^ , but I'm not showing up in the thumbnail pic list or vote count. 

HesCalledDyer

When the Levee Breaks

dankind said:

PJ_Soul said:

HesCalledDyer said:

When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won.  I plan on doing that again with this series.  It's like a mixtape of collective minds.

Good idea! Post it to Spotify please.

Ooh! Twice in one day!

https://youtu.be/59Hj7bp38f8

You missed one.  Slacker.

PJ_Soul

Stairway To Heaven

FYI, A Prefect Circle covered WTLB (kinda). It sucks hard, lol. Just awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymhLUlRDX1M

MedozK

Stairway To Heaven

njnancy said:

@MedozK I voted, obviously ^^ , but I'm not showing up in the thumbnail pic list or vote count. 

Hmm, not sure. It does recognize your vote though.

njnancy

Stairway To Heaven

MedozK said:

njnancy said:

@MedozK I voted, obviously ^^ , but I'm not showing up in the thumbnail pic list or vote count. 

Hmm, not sure. It does recognize your vote though.

Hmm..maybe it's telling me to go back to my profile pic of NYC.

dankind

Stairway To Heaven

I think it can only display 20 thumbnails. I don’t see @rummy or @PJ_Soul thumbnails among the more astute voters either. 

brianlux

Stairway To Heaven

mcgruff10 said:

What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too?  Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it.  Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe  present tense?  

Interesting and excellent question, McG!  For me it would be Rearviewmirror.

OffSheGoes35

Stairway To Heaven

mcgruff10 said:

What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too?  Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it.  Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe  present tense?  

You Are . 

njnancy

Stairway To Heaven

dankind said:

I think it can only display 20 thumbnails. I don’t see @rummy or @PJ_Soul thumbnails among the more astute voters either. 

Astute observation.

njnancy

Stairway To Heaven

mcgruff10 said:

What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too?  Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it.  Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe  present tense?  

No right answer for this either but I keep thinking Garden. An amazing song on an album of amazing songs that isn't overlooked but is not as familiar to someone who isn't into Pearl Jam. 

rummy

Stairway To Heaven

njnancy said:

dankind said:

I think it can only display 20 thumbnails. I don’t see @rummy or @PJ_Soul thumbnails among the more astute voters either. 

Astute observation.

I'm pretty sure that the individuals with the lower 10c numbers get put in the "displayed 20." 
Mine's pretty high.

rummy

Stairway To Heaven

mcgruff10 said:

What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too?  Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it.  Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe  present tense?  

Garden and Immortality come to mind.