I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV. Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!
Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.
When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won. I plan on doing that again with this series. It's like a mixtape of collective minds.
I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV. Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!
Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.
Enjoyed this Album choice.
Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won. I plan on doing that again with this series. It's like a mixtape of collective minds.
Good idea! Post it to Spotify please.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV. Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!
Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.
Enjoyed this Album choice.
Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness.
It's a fantastic song. I don't really want to listen to it anymore (not to be hip, lol, nor because I don't think it's a masterpiece, but because it really did just come to bore me a little bit because of the ridiculous number of times in my life I've heard it), but that doesn't make it any less fantastic. But sorry, aren't our "weakest links" the ones we don't want to listen to? Or are we supposed to be making choices based on, like, a "professional" view of the songs, without bringing what we actually want to listen to least into it? If so, then yeah, STH should win this album.... But I didn't think that was what we were doing!
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV. Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!
Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.
Enjoyed this Album choice.
Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness.
It's a fantastic song. I don't really want to listen to it anymore (not to be hip, lol, nor because I don't think it's a masterpiece, but because it really did just come to bore me a little bit because of the ridiculous number of times in my life I've heard it), but that doesn't make it any less fantastic. But sorry, aren't our "weakest links" the ones we don't want to listen to? Or are we supposed to be making choices based on, like, a "professional" view of the songs, without bringing what we actually want to listen to least into it? If so, then yeah, STH should win this album.... But I didn't think that was what we were doing!
Great question. The only guideline is to pick the "weakest link". I think overplay is a lazy way to determine that, and would logically result in the least played song winning. In many cases the least played song on an album is the least played for a reason. But if overplayed means you can no longer listen to it, I guess that could lead it to be considered weakest. It just strikes me as a strange way to think about a song being weak. But for this poll, weakness isn't defined, so to each their own! I bought this album in 1976/77 and have loved every track since then, overplayed or not, so this was a tough one!
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV. Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!
Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.
Enjoyed this Album choice.
Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness.
It's a fantastic song. I don't really want to listen to it anymore (not to be hip, lol, nor because I don't think it's a masterpiece, but because it really did just come to bore me a little bit because of the ridiculous number of times in my life I've heard it), but that doesn't make it any less fantastic. But sorry, aren't our "weakest links" the ones we don't want to listen to? Or are we supposed to be making choices based on, like, a "professional" view of the songs, without bringing what we actually want to listen to least into it? If so, then yeah, STH should win this album.... But I didn't think that was what we were doing!
Great question. The only guideline is to pick the "weakest link". I think overplay is a lazy way to determine that, and would logically result in the least played song winning. In many cases the least played song on an album is the least played for a reason. But if overplayed means you can no longer listen to it, I guess that could lead it to be considered weakest. It just strikes me as a strange way to think about a song being weak. But for this poll, weakness isn't defined, so to each their own! I bought this album in 1976/77 and have loved every track since then, overplayed or not, so this was a tough one!
I don't think your logic works TBH. Being overplayed isn't on a sliding scale.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won. I plan on doing that again with this series. It's like a mixtape of collective minds.
Can you inbox my the winners from each album when you get a chance? Thanks bud. @HesCalledDyer
I can't lie to myself. Yes, STH is way overplayed, but when i got this Album around 1977/78 STH was the best song on this Album. Hell, its one of the best songs in Rock history. I can't recall the last time i've heard the whole song, but STH is the best song on IV. Now, can some admit they are lying to themselves by voting against STH>LOL!!
Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.
Enjoyed this Album choice.
Well said. There's a good, goddamned reason StH was overplayed. That's because it is one of the most iconic rock songs of all time. I know it is hip to pan songs that were "overplayed", but just because radio decided to play a song doesn't negate it's greatness. It is an issue completely tangential to the question in the poll, which is about a song's "weakness". Overplay has nothing to do with weakness or strength, only popularity. Levee is great, and I can't argue against any song on this album, as I think it is one of the most perfect albums. But to disregard StH because of "overplay" is nonsensical if we're considering a song's weakness.
It's a fantastic song. I don't really want to listen to it anymore (not to be hip, lol, nor because I don't think it's a masterpiece, but because it really did just come to bore me a little bit because of the ridiculous number of times in my life I've heard it), but that doesn't make it any less fantastic. But sorry, aren't our "weakest links" the ones we don't want to listen to? Or are we supposed to be making choices based on, like, a "professional" view of the songs, without bringing what we actually want to listen to least into it? If so, then yeah, STH should win this album.... But I didn't think that was what we were doing!
Great question. The only guideline is to pick the "weakest link". I think overplay is a lazy way to determine that, and would logically result in the least played song winning. In many cases the least played song on an album is the least played for a reason. But if overplayed means you can no longer listen to it, I guess that could lead it to be considered weakest. It just strikes me as a strange way to think about a song being weak. But for this poll, weakness isn't defined, so to each their own! I bought this album in 1976/77 and have loved every track since then, overplayed or not, so this was a tough one!
I don't think your logic works TBH. Being overplayed isn't on a sliding scale.
Hmmm, is it binary then? At what point is that switch thrown?
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too? Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it. Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe present tense?
When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won. I plan on doing that again with this series. It's like a mixtape of collective minds.
What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too? Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it. Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe present tense?
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Worcester1 13, Worcester2 13, Hartford 13, San Diego 13, Los Angeles1 13, Los Angeles2 13 Trieste 14, Vienna 14, Gdynia 14, Leeds 14, Milton Keynes 14, Denver 14 Central Park 15 Fort Lauderdale 16, Miami 16, Tampa 16, Jacksonville 16, Greenville 16, Hampton 16, Columbia 16, Lexington 16, Philly1 16, Philly2 16, NYC1 16, NYC2 16, Quebec City 16, Ottawa 16, Toronto1 16, Toronto2 16, Fenway1 16, Fenway2 16, Wrigley1 16, Wrigley2 16
When we did this for the Pearl Jam albums, I made a playlist of all the songs that won. I plan on doing that again with this series. It's like a mixtape of collective minds.
What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too? Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it. Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe present tense?
Interesting and excellent question, McG! For me it would be Rearviewmirror.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too? Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it. Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe present tense?
What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too? Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it. Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe present tense?
No right answer for this either but I keep thinking Garden. An amazing song on an album of amazing songs that isn't overlooked but is not as familiar to someone who isn't into Pearl Jam.
What song in the pj catalog would you guys equate levee too? Not musically but quality and how much the fans love it. Obviously not one of their popular ones...maybe present tense?
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Really no wrong votes for this album, though, so you really can't go wrong.
Enjoyed this Album choice.
Stairway has won so many number one polls in the media over the years that it is time to let the Levee win the gold.
Good idea! Post it to Spotify please.
#goingtocaliforniafortheWIN
Trieste 14, Vienna 14, Gdynia 14, Leeds 14, Milton Keynes 14, Denver 14
Central Park 15
Fort Lauderdale 16, Miami 16, Tampa 16, Jacksonville 16, Greenville 16, Hampton 16, Columbia 16, Lexington 16, Philly1 16, Philly2 16, NYC1 16, NYC2 16, Quebec City 16, Ottawa 16, Toronto1 16, Toronto2 16, Fenway1 16, Fenway2 16, Wrigley1 16, Wrigley2 16
Mine's pretty high.