Cancel Auto-renew or membership completely?

brianlux

CJ260717 said:

RP112579 said:

CJ260717 said:

I see that but absentee voting is already in place for that.  Not sure how things that have worked well for years now require new procedures.

You really have a problem with the employees getting the day off on election day??

Not a problem - I could live with it.  Just seems unnecessary IMHO.  

NewJPage said:

CJ260717 said:

RP112579 said:

CJ260717 said:

I see that but absentee voting is already in place for that.  Not sure how things that have worked well for years now require new procedures.

You really have a problem with the employees getting the day off on election day??

Not a problem - I could live with it.  Just seems unnecessary IMHO.  

It's not. Many states are in the process of making it harder to vote as I type this. 

We're getting a little off topic here (that never happens, right?  ) but isn't 10C located in Washington state?  Washington, Oregon and Colorado conduct elections by mail.  In many other states, mail in ballots are an easy option.  I never miss an election.  For 50 cents I just pop my ballot in the mail.  Easy!  In those states that conduct elections by mail, there is zero reason to take election day off. 

CJ260717

Any professional team would change the management, coach or players if they had close to the poor record that 10 Club has servicing it's members.  I don't get how anyone there could have not seen this backlash coming and not planned for it by letting us know what is next.  So many business fight to get new business.  They are trying to kill the cash flow grave train that is annual paid dues.  

mace1229

brianlux said:

CJ260717 said:

RP112579 said:

CJ260717 said:

I see that but absentee voting is already in place for that.  Not sure how things that have worked well for years now require new procedures.

You really have a problem with the employees getting the day off on election day??

Not a problem - I could live with it.  Just seems unnecessary IMHO.  

NewJPage said:

CJ260717 said:

RP112579 said:

CJ260717 said:

I see that but absentee voting is already in place for that.  Not sure how things that have worked well for years now require new procedures.

You really have a problem with the employees getting the day off on election day??

Not a problem - I could live with it.  Just seems unnecessary IMHO.  

It's not. Many states are in the process of making it harder to vote as I type this. 

We're getting a little off topic here (that never happens, right?  ) but isn't 10C located in Washington state?  Washington, Oregon and Colorado conduct elections by mail.  In many other states, mail in ballots are an easy option.  I never miss an election.  For 50 cents I just pop my ballot in the mail.  Easy!  In those states that conduct elections by mail, there is zero reason to take election day off. 

Always thought the exact same thing. Polls are open like 12 hours, mail in and absentee ballots are easy as long as you plan like a week in advance.
The only ones who need the day off to vote are those who don’t  know when Election Day is until that wake up that morning and see on the morning news that it is Election Day and realize they are working a double shift. And how many of those are going to go out and vote on their day off?

deadendp

You guys are really bitching about PJ giving their staff off for voting day?  If they want to give their staff Flag Day or International Women's Day off, it is their business and it honestly has nothing to do with the topic at hand.  Remember that?  People are trying to decide whether to renew or not?  

If they want to give them every other Thursday off for Tattoo Thursday, I say have at it.  Just make sure to post them in the tattoo thread.    

MedozK

smile6680

Talking to people at and around the shows ive been to over the years I get the feeling many/most members only stay to keep their seniority number. I didn't even realize until today you have to be a paid member to post on the boards. At this point I just pay the 20$ and hope they play somewhere that I can attend. 

Chadplam

smile6680 said:

Talking to people at and around the shows ive been to over the years I get the feeling many/most members only stay to keep their seniority number. I didn't even realize until today you have to be a paid member to post on the boards. At this point I just pay the 20$ and hope they play somewhere that I can attend. 

yeah I didn't realize that either, I know ill be downgrading to digital when my renewal comes in October just for my number, and its not even a low number.

sxwxgirl1

PureandEasy said:

We're a community, and we all have our preferences.  I personally like the t-shirts, received a lot 45 vinyl with no ability to play them, decided to donate them to Wishlist parties.  It's a community, $40 a year for me, as long as I get my ticket presale, I'm good.  If that also provides the opportunity to get a t-shirt,  downloads, info on poster sales, I'm good.  It is sad to hear the 10club holiday release is ending but I see no reason to end membership.  I apologize if I'm wrong, but if you're considering not renewing your membership because of the end of the holiday release, then it sounds like you may just be a collector and not a fan of the band.  

Really?  You claim to know if I am a "fan of the band" or not, based on the fact I just do not see much value in a membership anymore?  I have been  into PJ, before they were even PJ,   Had PJ & MLB playing at my Wedding over 26 years ago,  when giving birth to my first child 23 years ago, the music I gave birth too was PJ.  Went to every concert I could go see (minus the one in London On a few years ago, when my Mother was dying)  Have so many tat's of PJ and their lyrics all over parts my body which are so meaningful to me (some so old, their ink has to be re-done, others newer)  Listened to PJ, when I was happy, sad, looking for deeper meaning, get me through depression, when I felt weak and needed to be stronger, and even had "Just Breathe' played on the harp at my Mother's funeral, are just a few examples.    So you define me as being "just a collector"  I beg too differ.  I am ALL about their music, every ounce over the years has been about the music.  I do not even buy the "swag" on here, and have just a few pieces of PJ mech, that mean something to me.  Yes I liked the vinyl, as a PAYING member of the Club, but so what?  That does not make me any different then anyone else on here who likes to get a little something extra from the band.  But I guess you know me better...oh please..

bootlegger10

20 years ago we joined the club as we were fans of the band.  We were in our teens or twenties.  Now we are members because of the benefits. When those benefits go away, we go away.  It is that simple.

CratePilot

I don't check on here often so keeping track of if I should have received my deep magazine or single was tricky, and confusing. Gathered from a quick browse on here that we are 2 years behind on this now for the single and magazine ... is that right? ... but we've been told these will be fulfilled even if we cancel? I'm not keen on the t-shirts and cancelling the vinyl is the nudge I think I've needed to cancel my membership

RYME

sxwxgirl1 said:

PureandEasy said:

We're a community, and we all have our preferences.  I personally like the t-shirts, received a lot 45 vinyl with no ability to play them, decided to donate them to Wishlist parties.  It's a community, $40 a year for me, as long as I get my ticket presale, I'm good.  If that also provides the opportunity to get a t-shirt,  downloads, info on poster sales, I'm good.  It is sad to hear the 10club holiday release is ending but I see no reason to end membership.  I apologize if I'm wrong, but if you're considering not renewing your membership because of the end of the holiday release, then it sounds like you may just be a collector and not a fan of the band.  

Really?  You claim to know if I am a "fan of the band" or not, based on the fact I just do not see much value in a membership anymore?  I have been  into PJ, before they were even PJ,   Had PJ & MLB playing at my Wedding over 26 years ago,  when giving birth to my first child 23 years ago, the music I gave birth too was PJ.  Went to every concert I could go see (minus the one in London On a few years ago, when my Mother was dying)  Have so many tat's of PJ and their lyrics all over parts my body which are so meaningful to me (some so old, their ink has to be re-done, others newer)  Listened to PJ, when I was happy, sad, looking for deeper meaning, get me through depression, when I felt weak and needed to be stronger, and even had "Just Breathe' played on the harp at my Mother's funeral, are just a few examples.    So you define me as being "just a collector"  I beg too differ.  I am ALL about their music, every ounce over the years has been about the music.  I do not even buy the "swag" on here, and have just a few pieces of PJ mech, that mean something to me.  Yes I liked the vinyl, as a PAYING member of the Club, but so what?  That does not make me any different then anyone else on here who likes to get a little something extra from the band.  But I guess you know me better...oh please..

Wowzers..Wedding music, physical Tatoos that are fading, tatoo receiving music, music to live by, depressed music , happy music , frustrated music , childbirth music, funeral music, everything in between music, & into pj befour they were even pj?  You mean Mookie Blaylock? Mother Love Bone?  Very impressive, that takes the cake, holy moly  good for you.

Cob

The band doesn't seem to be interested in making new music, as they are going on 6 years since last album, I am an big Grateful Dead and Phish fan also (insert whatever joke you deem cute) I used to cringe when I would hear people compare PJ to Grateful Dead or Phish, but PJ has become a band that strictly relies on touring for income. 

They have taken a page out of the Grateful Dead manual, they tour the same areas mostly, the areas they know they can make the most money, which is, US east coast, Chicago, Europe and Europe festivals and have figured out from last US tour, they can play large stadiums at places they know they can draw crowds, last US tour was only 4 cities, 7 large stadium shows, no arenas or amphitheater's, no city to city long hauls over 3 or 4 weeks, it was short, this is how they are going to do things.
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Before everyone starts on me, I know this band owes me NOTHING, I know that, I am just being a realist, I was analog member for a LONG time, mainly for tickets to shows and the vinyl single because I have a large vinyl collection.  Now I really have no reason to continue, better seats are always available without using fan club option.

Cob

drakeheuer14 said:

I’m kind of looking forward to the changes they bring. All I ask is they don’t drag their feet and they put a little bit of effort into whatever is next. Excited though. 

There are no changes coming, that was the change, no more annual single, thank you and good night, we'll let you know when we take away more perks as a fan club member.....

RYME

Cob said:

drakeheuer14 said:

I’m kind of looking forward to the changes they bring. All I ask is they don’t drag their feet and they put a little bit of effort into whatever is next. Excited though. 

There are no changes coming, that was the change, no more annual single, thank you and good night, we'll let you know when we take away more perks as a fan club member.....

"We are excited to see what the future holds."
That's a load of crappy crap crap.
There's a lot of great music out there.  & New Young inspired bands and artists. I don't know why we all worry about this damn group so much.  I should've let my shit expirethe other day, but I stupidly didn't. Didn't want to lose my number  so Hanging around for one more year of b*******.

mace1229

Cob said:

drakeheuer14 said:

I’m kind of looking forward to the changes they bring. All I ask is they don’t drag their feet and they put a little bit of effort into whatever is next. Excited though. 

There are no changes coming, that was the change, no more annual single, thank you and good night, we'll let you know when we take away more perks as a fan club member.....

There almost has to be some changes. They cant expect people to still pay $40 without the single. It's stupid if they really do expect that, and stupid for anyone who's willing to pay it, basically you're paying $20 for the worst shirts I've ever seen if that is the case.

Natashapearljamfan

My digital membership was just paid for and I got the usual generic email that says your Deep magazine and Annual ten club single will be made available to download from your download page. The only thing I noticed different was an extra $2 sales tax charge. 

Cob

RYME said:

Cob said:

drakeheuer14 said:

I’m kind of looking forward to the changes they bring. All I ask is they don’t drag their feet and they put a little bit of effort into whatever is next. Excited though. 

There are no changes coming, that was the change, no more annual single, thank you and good night, we'll let you know when we take away more perks as a fan club member.....

"We are excited to see what the future holds."
That's a load of crappy crap crap.
There's a lot of great music out there.  & New Young inspired bands and artists. I don't know why we all worry about this damn group so much.  I should've let my shit expirethe other day, but I stupidly didn't. Didn't want to lose my number  so Hanging around for one more year of b*******.

Pearl Jam is just one band that I REALLY like, I saw Grateful Dead over 160 times with Jerry Garcia, I have seen Phish 94 times and counting, I like MMJ, newer music as well, I live in Austin, so I get to see a wide range of music, PJ isn't my one and only band, just one of many.

RYME

Cob said:

RYME said:

Cob said:

drakeheuer14 said:

I’m kind of looking forward to the changes they bring. All I ask is they don’t drag their feet and they put a little bit of effort into whatever is next. Excited though. 

There are no changes coming, that was the change, no more annual single, thank you and good night, we'll let you know when we take away more perks as a fan club member.....

"We are excited to see what the future holds."
That's a load of crappy crap crap.
There's a lot of great music out there.  & New Young inspired bands and artists. I don't know why we all worry about this damn group so much.  I should've let my shit expirethe other day, but I stupidly didn't. Didn't want to lose my number  so Hanging around for one more year of b*******.

Pearl Jam is just one band that I REALLY like, I saw Grateful Dead over 160 times with Jerry Garcia, I have seen Phish 94 times and counting, I like MMJ, newer music as well, I live in Austin, so I get to see a wide range of music, PJ isn't my one and only band, just one of many.

I know what you mean man.  I didn't mean you specifically.  160 is a lot of Dead shows. I wasn't old enough to go when Jerry was still around.  I've seen Dead & Co twice now outstanding, mmj 4 times outstanding.  Also your lucky to live near Austin where there's a wide range of music all the time.  I've really enjoyed Pearl Jam over the years. But as of late they've really becoming kind of a bummer.  That's why I question myself more than anything else as to why I wasted another $20.

Cob

bootlegger10 said:

20 years ago we joined the club as we were fans of the band.  We were in our teens or twenties.  Now we are members because of the benefits. When those benefits go away, we go away.  It is that simple.

100% CORRECT......

Cob

sxwxgirl1 said:

PureandEasy said:

We're a community, and we all have our preferences.  I personally like the t-shirts, received a lot 45 vinyl with no ability to play them, decided to donate them to Wishlist parties.  It's a community, $40 a year for me, as long as I get my ticket presale, I'm good.  If that also provides the opportunity to get a t-shirt,  downloads, info on poster sales, I'm good.  It is sad to hear the 10club holiday release is ending but I see no reason to end membership.  I apologize if I'm wrong, but if you're considering not renewing your membership because of the end of the holiday release, then it sounds like you may just be a collector and not a fan of the band.  

Really?  You claim to know if I am a "fan of the band" or not, based on the fact I just do not see much value in a membership anymore?  I have been  into PJ, before they were even PJ,   Had PJ & MLB playing at my Wedding over 26 years ago,  when giving birth to my first child 23 years ago, the music I gave birth too was PJ.  Went to every concert I could go see (minus the one in London On a few years ago, when my Mother was dying)  Have so many tat's of PJ and their lyrics all over parts my body which are so meaningful to me (some so old, their ink has to be re-done, others newer)  Listened to PJ, when I was happy, sad, looking for deeper meaning, get me through depression, when I felt weak and needed to be stronger, and even had "Just Breathe' played on the harp at my Mother's funeral, are just a few examples.    So you define me as being "just a collector"  I beg too differ.  I am ALL about their music, every ounce over the years has been about the music.  I do not even buy the "swag" on here, and have just a few pieces of PJ mech, that mean something to me.  Yes I liked the vinyl, as a PAYING member of the Club, but so what?  That does not make me any different then anyone else on here who likes to get a little something extra from the band.  But I guess you know me better...oh please..

This is all great, but expand your mind musically a little more, what are you going to do when they aren't around???  I am 49 years old and have been a fan of them from day 1 also, it is GREAT to have PJ in your life, but don't let it BE your life.