We're a community, and we all have our preferences. I personally like the t-shirts, received a lot 45 vinyl with no ability to play them, decided to donate them to Wishlist parties. It's a community, $40 a year for me, as long as I get my ticket presale, I'm good. If that also provides the opportunity to get a t-shirt, downloads, info on poster sales, I'm good. It is sad to hear the 10club holiday release is ending but I see no reason to end membership. I apologize if I'm wrong, but if you're considering not renewing your membership because of the end of the holiday release, then it sounds like you may just be a collector and not a fan of the band.
Fans of the band generally like music from the band. No 45 means less of it
I'm downgrading to digital as the vinyl is discontinued and it was the reason I was on analog.
I still feel the 10c is worth $20/yr. I think I've seen PJ 28 times since 1992. 3 of them were festivals and had no fan club tickets, 1 was a bar show where you could only win tickets from the radio (Vancouver 2000 @ the commodore). There was a few other shows I didn't use 10c tickets for. Seattle '98 was a last second thing. Seattle '00 and '02 only had fan club tickets for 1 night instead of both. Portland '00 was weird because it existed, then got cancelled, we transferred 10c tickets to Boise, then Portland got reannounced and we bought regular tix. So that's 21 shows I've been too where fan club tickets were a possibility (including pre-lotto lotto ones like Seattle '02, Gorge '05, and Groundwork '01). We've gotten fan club tickets to 20/21 shows where getting them was an option. That's pretty amazing.
I'll gladly keep giving the 10c $20/yr for that. I've been in other band fan clubs just for tickets, and they often gouge $40 or $50 just for tickets (and some useless trinkets). $20 seems reasonable to me.
We're a community, and we all have our preferences. I personally like the t-shirts, received a lot 45 vinyl with no ability to play them, decided to donate them to Wishlist parties. It's a community, $40 a year for me, as long as I get my ticket presale, I'm good. If that also provides the opportunity to get a t-shirt, downloads, info on poster sales, I'm good. It is sad to hear the 10club holiday release is ending but I see no reason to end membership. I apologize if I'm wrong, but if you're considering not renewing your membership because of the end of the holiday release, then it sounds like you may just be a collector and not a fan of the band.
Fans of the band generally like music from the band. No 45 means less of it
Yeah and when that band goes on tour and you cancelled your membership, who's missing out more? Pretty sure it's those who cancelled their membership over this.
We're a community, and we all have our preferences. I personally like the t-shirts, received a lot 45 vinyl with no ability to play them, decided to donate them to Wishlist parties. It's a community, $40 a year for me, as long as I get my ticket presale, I'm good. If that also provides the opportunity to get a t-shirt, downloads, info on poster sales, I'm good. It is sad to hear the 10club holiday release is ending but I see no reason to end membership. I apologize if I'm wrong, but if you're considering not renewing your membership because of the end of the holiday release, then it sounds like you may just be a collector and not a fan of the band.
This may be true for some but not me. And not all fans are 10C members. This I know for a fact.
For me it's about the following:
-10C not fulfilling their agreement
-The t-shirts are unattractive. The majority here seem to agree. Not a good use of resources.
-Poor communication. If I send someone $40 and they don't come through with the agreement, I at least expect to hear an explanation from them.
What if the shoe were on the other foot? How would 10C react?
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The end of the vinyl Christmas single that never comes, or not getting another lame-ass T-$hirt doesn't bother me as much as the're lack of communication. They've got all these fans sitting out here twiddling our thumbs. Why don't they update us every 6 months or once a year telling us what the plan is. Examples could be like this, - We are uninspired & are checked out for the time being. We have no plans this year, check back next year. (Don't forget to pay your membership dues though we like that dry labor income) - We've got some new material we're excited to be working on,,hoping to be releasing new album around (month/year) stay tuned! - Planning big tour for 2019 in support of the new album, coming to a city near you make sure your up to date. - Planning 6 baseball stadium shows 2 in Seattle, 2 in Chicago & 2 in Boston. Same drill as last year. Same stage set up, and we'll be swinging on the lights again. - A photograph of the band with all 10 middle fingers in the air. Telling us all to go away and forget it. And if you make changes to the fanclub packages, just let us know why and what you've decided to do instead with the $40. Just let us know that's all I ask. p.s. I do miss the physical copy of Deep magazine especially the hangover-food recipes.
Im analog and plan on keeping it that way for now. Ya, I’ll miss the singles but to be honest I don’t spin them all that much. Shirts have been hit or miss to me. I love the 2019 shirt though.
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The end of the vinyl Christmas single that never comes, or not getting another lame-ass T-$hirt doesn't bother me as much as the're lack of communication. They've got all these fans sitting out here twiddling our thumbs. Why don't they update us every 6 months or once a year telling us what the plan is. Examples could be like this, - We are uninspired & are checked out for the time being. We have no plans this year, check back next year. (Don't forget to pay your membership dues though we like that dry labor income) - We've got some new material we're excited to be working on,,hoping to be releasing new album around (month/year) stay tuned! - Planning big tour for 2019 in support of the new album, coming to a city near you make sure your up to date. - Planning 6 baseball stadium shows 2 in Seattle, 2 in Chicago & 2 in Boston. Same drill as last year. Same stage set up, and we'll be swinging on the lights again. - A photograph of the band with all 10 middle fingers in the air. Telling us all to go away and forget it. And if you make changes to the fanclub packages, just let us know why and what you've decided to do instead with the $40. Just let us know that's all I ask. p.s. I do miss the physical copy of Deep magazine especially the hangover-food recipes.
.. whoops.. Bumped the quote button on myself again.
Wish I didn’t have to downgrade to digital. Wish 10C would update their membership levels, ASAP. Seems like a common sense thing to do.
Not only is it a common sense thing to do, it's what you do as a business when you want to retain customers. Because of the lack of information, I've already downgraded. When you do something like this, you need to have a plan beyond "we look forward to what the future holds." As a consumer, that line tells me that they have absolutely no idea what is going on in their own organization.
I've already downgraded because I don't need any more shirts. Time will tell and I'll be happy to upgrade again if they prove me wrong here.
I will wait until they break out the plan before making any decisions. I foolishly went digital, I think the first year it was an option in 2010? and then they go and release two songs from Red Rock night 2 in 1995 on ten inch of all things. Ultimately scrounged that up, but not making that choice blind again.
Wish I didn’t have to downgrade to digital. Wish 10C would update their membership levels, ASAP. Seems like a common sense thing to do.
Not only is it a common sense thing to do, it's what you do as a business when you want to retain customers. Because of the lack of information, I've already downgraded. When you do something like this, you need to have a plan beyond "we look forward to what the future holds." As a consumer, that line tells me that they have absolutely no idea what is going on in their own organization.
I've already downgraded because I don't need any more shirts. Time will tell and I'll be happy to upgrade again if they prove me wrong here.
Yep. The way things are run with 10c seem to be getting worse and worse over the years. The shipping is an absolute joke and the communication from them is non-existent. My renewal is in March so I have a little time to decide here...hopefully further information regarding membership levels comes out soon. This is an absurd way to do business.
I thought it was funny that all PJ/10C staff were giving the full day off to vote back in November. Is that a thing? The rest of us get up early and go before work, or later in the evening. Is this group completely helpless at work and life? I'm really am not trying to pick on them but almost everything the do makes zero sense to me.
I thought it was funny that all PJ/10C staff were giving the full day off to vote back in November. Is that a thing? The rest of us get up early and go before work, or later in the evening. Is this group completely helpless at work and life? I'm really am not trying to pick on them but almost everything the do makes zero sense to me.
A lot of people believe that election day should be a national holiday so that everyone has as much ability to vote as possible. This was Pearl Jam's way to support that movement.
I see that but absentee voting is already in place for that. Not sure how things that have worked well for years now require new procedures.
You really have a problem with the employees getting the day off on election day??
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I thought it was funny that all PJ/10C staff were giving the full day off to vote back in November. Is that a thing? The rest of us get up early and go before work, or later in the evening. Is this group completely helpless at work and life? I'm really am not trying to pick on them but almost everything the do makes zero sense to me.
Yes... they are completely helpless at work and life.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the band making a statement about how important it is to vote and how serious a priority it should be for the country.
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I see that but absentee voting is already in place for that. Not sure how things that have worked well for years now require new procedures.
You really have a problem with the employees getting the day off on election day??
Not a problem - I could live with it. Just seems unnecessary IMHO.
It's not. Many states are in the process of making it harder to vote as I type this.
We're getting a little off topic here (that never happens, right? ) but isn't 10C located in Washington state? Washington, Oregon and Colorado conduct elections by mail. In many other states, mail in ballots are an easy option. I never miss an election. For 50 cents I just pop my ballot in the mail. Easy! In those states that conduct elections by mail, there is zero reason to take election day off.
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Any professional team would change the management, coach or players if they had close to the poor record that 10 Club has servicing it's members. I don't get how anyone there could have not seen this backlash coming and not planned for it by letting us know what is next. So many business fight to get new business. They are trying to kill the cash flow grave train that is annual paid dues.
I see that but absentee voting is already in place for that. Not sure how things that have worked well for years now require new procedures.
You really have a problem with the employees getting the day off on election day??
Not a problem - I could live with it. Just seems unnecessary IMHO.
It's not. Many states are in the process of making it harder to vote as I type this.
We're getting a little off topic here (that never happens, right? ) but isn't 10C located in Washington state? Washington, Oregon and Colorado conduct elections by mail. In many other states, mail in ballots are an easy option. I never miss an election. For 50 cents I just pop my ballot in the mail. Easy! In those states that conduct elections by mail, there is zero reason to take election day off.
Always thought the exact same thing. Polls are open like 12 hours, mail in and absentee ballots are easy as long as you plan like a week in advance. The only ones who need the day off to vote are those who don’t know when Election Day is until that wake up that morning and see on the morning news that it is Election Day and realize they are working a double shift. And how many of those are going to go out and vote on their day off?
You guys are really bitching about PJ giving their staff off for voting day? If they want to give their staff Flag Day or International Women's Day off, it is their business and it honestly has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Remember that? People are trying to decide whether to renew or not?
If they want to give them every other Thursday off for Tattoo Thursday, I say have at it. Just make sure to post them in the tattoo thread.
Talking to people at and around the shows ive been to over the years I get the feeling many/most members only stay to keep their seniority number. I didn't even realize until today you have to be a paid member to post on the boards. At this point I just pay the 20$ and hope they play somewhere that I can attend.
Talking to people at and around the shows ive been to over the years I get the feeling many/most members only stay to keep their seniority number. I didn't even realize until today you have to be a paid member to post on the boards. At this point I just pay the 20$ and hope they play somewhere that I can attend.
yeah I didn't realize that either, I know ill be downgrading to digital when my renewal comes in October just for my number, and its not even a low number.
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We're a community, and we all have our preferences. I personally like the t-shirts, received a lot 45 vinyl with no ability to play them, decided to donate them to Wishlist parties. It's a community, $40 a year for me, as long as I get my ticket presale, I'm good. If that also provides the opportunity to get a t-shirt, downloads, info on poster sales, I'm good. It is sad to hear the 10club holiday release is ending but I see no reason to end membership. I apologize if I'm wrong, but if you're considering not renewing your membership because of the end of the holiday release, then it sounds like you may just be a collector and not a fan of the band.
Really? You claim to know if I am a "fan of the band" or not, based on the fact I just do not see much value in a membership anymore? I have been into PJ, before they were even PJ, Had PJ & MLB playing at my Wedding over 26 years ago, when giving birth to my first child 23 years ago, the music I gave birth too was PJ. Went to every concert I could go see (minus the one in London On a few years ago, when my Mother was dying) Have so many tat's of PJ and their lyrics all over parts my body which are so meaningful to me (some so old, their ink has to be re-done, others newer) Listened to PJ, when I was happy, sad, looking for deeper meaning, get me through depression, when I felt weak and needed to be stronger, and even had "Just Breathe' played on the harp at my Mother's funeral, are just a few examples. So you define me as being "just a collector" I beg too differ. I am ALL about their music, every ounce over the years has been about the music. I do not even buy the "swag" on here, and have just a few pieces of PJ mech, that mean something to me. Yes I liked the vinyl, as a PAYING member of the Club, but so what? That does not make me any different then anyone else on here who likes to get a little something extra from the band. But I guess you know me better...oh please..
20 years ago we joined the club as we were fans of the band. We were in our teens or twenties. Now we are members because of the benefits. When those benefits go away, we go away. It is that simple.
I don't check on here often so keeping track of if I should have received my deep magazine or single was tricky, and confusing. Gathered from a quick browse on here that we are 2 years behind on this now for the single and magazine ... is that right? ... but we've been told these will be fulfilled even if we cancel? I'm not keen on the t-shirts and cancelling the vinyl is the nudge I think I've needed to cancel my membership
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Why don't they update us every 6 months or once a year telling us what the plan is.
Examples could be like this,
- We are uninspired & are checked out for the time being. We have no plans this year, check back next year. (Don't forget to pay your membership dues though we like that dry labor income)
- We've got some new material we're excited to be working on,,hoping to be releasing new album around (month/year) stay tuned!
- Planning big tour for 2019 in support of the new album, coming to a city near you make sure your up to date.
- Planning 6 baseball stadium shows 2 in Seattle, 2 in Chicago & 2 in Boston. Same drill as last year. Same stage set up, and we'll be swinging on the lights again.
- A photograph of the band with all 10 middle fingers in the air. Telling us all to go away and forget it.
And if you make changes to the fanclub packages, just let us know why and what you've decided to do instead with the $40.
Just let us know that's all I ask.
p.s.
I do miss the physical copy of Deep magazine especially the hangover-food recipes.
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It has absolutely nothing to do with the band making a statement about how important it is to vote and how serious a priority it should be for the country.
We're getting a little off topic here (that never happens, right?
The only ones who need the day off to vote are those who don’t know when Election Day is until that wake up that morning and see on the morning news that it is Election Day and realize they are working a double shift. And how many of those are going to go out and vote on their day off?
If they want to give them every other Thursday off for Tattoo Thursday, I say have at it. Just make sure to post them in the tattoo thread.
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