Important Change To Ten Club Membership Benefits

JimmyV

Milestone said:

Here's a thought: Tenclub got tired of hounding the band for new material every year and conversley, gets tired of hearing member complaints about late vinyl and/or receiving nothing at all last year.  Both the band and Tenclub say, "fuck it. It's been a good run". 

Honestly, I haven't even spun the last few years of vinyl because the availability of the digital versions diminished my excitement and feeling of obtaining something unique. So, I'm on board with the band and ten club and join them in saying, "fuck it". 

Thoughts and prayers to Ten Club for having to listen to complaints about a member benefit they took money for but failed to deliver for more than two years.

pledgeagrievance

So just to make sure before I downgrade: the difference right now between analog and digital is the T-shirt? So I’m paying $20 for the shirt right now? Thanks 

HughFreakingDillon

and the bootleg code and possibly a physical version of Deep. not sure on that one though. 

willbarclay

brianlux

pledgeagrievance said:

So just to make sure before I downgrade: the difference right now between analog and digital is the T-shirt? So I’m paying $20 for the shirt right now? Thanks 

That's the impression I get.  But it sure would  be nice if 10 C would confirm this. 

As for the t-shirts, to me they're a waste.  There's only been one that I've ever worn more than once or twice in public (I think Iv'e worn it 3 times).  Twenty buck for a t-shirt to mow the lawn or sleep in is just not my idea of a good way to spend my dollars.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

JimmyV said:

Milestone said:

Here's a thought: Tenclub got tired of hounding the band for new material every year and conversley, gets tired of hearing member complaints about late vinyl and/or receiving nothing at all last year.  Both the band and Tenclub say, "fuck it. It's been a good run". 

Honestly, I haven't even spun the last few years of vinyl because the availability of the digital versions diminished my excitement and feeling of obtaining something unique. So, I'm on board with the band and ten club and join them in saying, "fuck it". 

Thoughts and prayers to Ten Club for having to listen to complaints about a member benefit they took money for but failed to deliver for more than two years.

lol

SJD3232

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Will be shitty when many of us go digital, and the next year the "limited edition item" is a 12 inch record with a bunch of unheard B-sides.

If this happened, I can almost guarantee they'd be available in the shop for purchase, just like the annual singles.

SDNick484

As my membership renews on 1/20/19, I went ahead and "downgraded" to Digital just now.  While I'm not thrilled about it, I understand dropping the vinyl, but I really wish we'd get confirmation whether anything will be replacing it or not (again, fine either way, just wish we had an answer).  At this point all I can do is hope that if they do add something for Analogs, they give everyone a heads up and a window to upgrade if it's something we care about. 

robertstackarmy

I have been thinking about you the change for weeks now.  Why not offer a big, one time discount on the site or a "all time" 10% discount on all orders.  It would keep the "physical" aspect of the club and, for some, would actually make it worth it.

JB273578

Yea... I'm gonna downgrade. Not worth it. The National sent me a great package (live lp with goodies) and I was also able to get amazing tickets to their Red Rocks show.  I just gave away the last three Pearl Jam shirts. They are simply not worh the cost of an analog membership

PJ_Soul

SDNick484 said:

As my membership renews on 1/20/19, I went ahead and "downgraded" to Digital just now.  While I'm not thrilled about it, I understand dropping the vinyl, but I really wish we'd get confirmation whether anything will be replacing it or not (again, fine either way, just wish we had an answer).  At this point all I can do is hope that if they do add something for Analogs, they give everyone a heads up and a window to upgrade if it's something we care about. 

I think the fact that they are now openly selling the analog membership without the single is all the confirmation we need from 10C. They have what an analog membership includes up on their website - everything is the same except no vinyl single. It is clear that they are not replacing it with anything IMO. If they were, they'd say so there. They wouldn't keep that a secret while a huge number of the analog memberships downgrade to digital. At BEST, they have absolutely no idea if they're going to add something else later or not.

MedozK

So they are now giving you less and the consumer continues to pay the same. That's quite a business plan, BRILLIANT!

jeffbr

MedozK said:

So they are now giving you less and the consumer continues to pay the same. That's quite a business plan, BRILLIANT!

Yes, that should lead to a dramatic increase in revenue! Brilliant!

HughFreakingDillon

jeffbr said:

MedozK said:

So they are now giving you less and the consumer continues to pay the same. That's quite a business plan, BRILLIANT!

Yes, that should lead to a dramatic increase in revenue! Brilliant!

maybe they'll just add a third wrigley show next time. problem solved. 

HesCalledDyer

We're still debating "what this means?"  It's been in writing since the beginning of the month.

PJ_Soul

MedozK said:

So they are now giving you less and the consumer continues to pay the same. That's quite a business plan, BRILLIANT!

I mean, to be fair, inflation is a thing, sadly. They could have also raised the price of membership and it wouldn't have been an unusual move. Just an unpopular one.

ryanphishes

PJ_Soul said:

MedozK said:

So they are now giving you less and the consumer continues to pay the same. That's quite a business plan, BRILLIANT!

I mean, to be fair, inflation is a thing, sadly. They could have also raised the price of membership and it wouldn't have been an unusual move. Just an unpopular one.

I've wondered why they charge for a fan club in the first place.
I *think* it has to do with rules allowing them to secure and sell their own tickets way back in the day, but the Grateful Dead and Phish never had fan clubs or charged anything and allowed fans to order tickets directly from the bands.

brianlux

SDNick484 said:

As my membership renews on 1/20/19, I went ahead and "downgraded" to Digital just now.  While I'm not thrilled about it, I understand dropping the vinyl, but I really wish we'd get confirmation whether anything will be replacing it or not (again, fine either way, just wish we had an answer).  At this point all I can do is hope that if they do add something for Analogs, they give everyone a heads up and a window to upgrade if it's something we care about. 

My thoughts exactly.  Is it really too much to ask for a bit of information as to what being an analog will entail?  No, I don't think that's unreasonable at all. 

HesCalledDyer

It's all laid out on the page that explains membership levels. Has been for almost a month now. Not sure what's so hard to understand about this...

my_wave

HesCalledDyer said:

It's all laid out on the page that knexplains membership levels. Has been for almost a month now. Not sure what's so hard to understand about this...

it's not that it's hard to understand, it's that people are just confused/frustrated because there has been no communication since the initial announcement that there would no longer be a vinyl single as to why/if the analog price hasn't/will change or if something will replace the vinyl, which is why many people have switched to digital, because for most people the vinyl single was the only reason to be analog...