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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    brianlux said:
    OK, I got the picture.  I took it down.
    I'm outta here.
    See ya.....again.

    Haha, just for the morning.  Maybe for the day,  I got bigger fish to fry than the games being played here.
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  • Poncier
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    tbergs said:
    shecky said:
    brianlux said:
    OK, I got the picture.  I took it down.
    I'm outta here.

    Sheck! Thoughts on what you think is going well and not so well so far?
    You know he doesn't have the gumption to answer that query honestly.
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  • mickeyrat
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    presented without comment....


    Elon Musk Rage Quits Livestream After Being Cyberbullied by Gamers
    CAN DISH...WON'T TAKE
    Tom Sanders

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    Updated Apr. 8 2025 2:22PM EDT
    Published Apr. 8 2025 1:54PM EDT
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    Elon Musk rage quit a livestream of the video game Path of Exile 2 on Saturday night after repeatedly dying while also being ruthlessly cyberbullied in the chat.

    Path of Exile 2 is one of Musk’s favorite games—so much so that he once claimed to be one of the world’s top players in an attempt to boost his gamer cred, before later backtracking and admitting that he had been secretly paying people to level up his account to make him appear more talented at it than he was.
    Streamer Slams ‘F***ing Loser’ Musk: ‘Imma Have Grimes on’
    ‘BATTLE OF THE NERDS’
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    Elon Musk and Twitch streamer Hasan Piker.

    Nevertheless, while attempting to show off Starlink’s in-flight WiFi capabilities while onboard his private jet over the weekend, Musk streamed himself playing some PoE2 on the hardest difficulty, which was broadcast live on X.

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    The DOGE chief was, predictably, terrible at the game, but that was the least of his problems—Less than five minutes into the stream, a player logged on and asked Musk if he could “please jerk off mr trump so he dies of a heart attack.” It only got worse from there.

    For the next hour and a half, Musk sat in stony-faced silence and blasted techno music while dozens of users with names such as ELON_IS_A_PEEDOPHILE and ELON_MUSK_IS_PATHETIC repeatedly spammed the chat to tell him “YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND YOU WILL DIE ALONE” and “YOU WILL ALWAYS FEEL INSECURE AND IT WILL NEVER GO AWAY.”

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    Elon Musk Rage Quits Livestream After Getting Ruthlessly Cyberbullied by Gamers
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    “Elon. It’s me, Ashley St. Claire. I have no other means of contacting you so I bought PoE2 early access. Please pay your child support. Thank you Elon,” said an account pretending to be the conservative influencer currently locked in a custody battle with Musk over their five-month-old child, while another said his estranged daughter Vivian “was right” about him being terrible at video games.

    Some streamers attempted to help Musk out by trying to show him how to mute the chat function, while others encouraged people to “Buy TSLA” and thanked him for his work with Starlink and DOGE, but they were drowned out by a cavalcade of abuse from gamers relished the opportunity to give the billionaire a piece of their mind.

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    “There’s a lot of r-----s in the chat,” said Musk at one point, using the r-word slur while a user named HC_John_Wick repeatedly spammed “ELON HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOOK THIS DUMB AND UGLY WHY IS UR TESLA COMPANY FALLING APART AHAAHAAHAAH! WHAT HAPPENED BUDDY?”

    But aside from muting a couple of the loudest trolls after almost an hour of sustained abuse, Musk did little to stop the army of trolls from relentlessly mocking him.

    Eventually, he vanished when his WiFi connection abruptly cut out and ended the stream, which he later deleted from X but was swiftly reuploaded onto YouTube.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
    Lol. Someone hacked the crosswalk voices around Silicon Valley and now Musk is talking to people on the streets.


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  • brianlux
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Lol. Someone hacked the crosswalk voices around Silicon Valley and now Musk is talking to people on the streets.



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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    PJ_Soul said:
    Lol. Someone hacked the crosswalk voices around Silicon Valley and now Musk is talking to people on the streets.


    that is hilarious. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    Tesla is missing $1.4 billion from its books, sparking further questions about its dodgy financial practices and exposing Tesla to be far closer to Enron than anyone thought possible.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    I think the narrative that if Musk quits spending so much time on Doge and gets back to Tesla things will somehow get better for them is hilarious.

    The issue isn't a lack of Musk...Musk is the fucking problem.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,652
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    I think the point is that if Musk steps away from DOGE it makes him less the problem. If he's not fucking with everyone's lives, then people forget how much they hate him, and start eying those Teslas again. It might work - a lot of people have very short memories. And then Musk can start fucking with everyone's lives in private again.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    I think the narrative that if Musk quits spending so much time on Doge and gets back to Tesla things will somehow get better for them is hilarious.

    The issue isn't a lack of Musk...Musk is the fucking problem.
    Yeah, I don't think people choosing not to buy teslas are chomping at the bit to buy them as soon as he nominally distances himself. He can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
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  • mrussel1
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    OnWis97 said:
    I think the narrative that if Musk quits spending so much time on Doge and gets back to Tesla things will somehow get better for them is hilarious.

    The issue isn't a lack of Musk...Musk is the fucking problem.
    Yeah, I don't think people choosing not to buy teslas are chomping at the bit to buy them as soon as he nominally distances himself. He can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
    It will certainly take more than a few quarters, that’s for sure. He severely damaged his brand with Tesla’s core consumer. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,305
    This flew under the radar a bit! 😅

    Tesla 2025 Q1:
    • Income from operations: $399M
    • Automotive Regulatory credits: $595M
    • Without Carbon credits: NEGATIVE operating margin!!!

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  • Evel K
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    The real value of Tesla will be realized with mass adoption of autonomous vehicles, robotaxi in the near term.  They were light years ahead of everyone in EV engineering so there's no reason to doubt they will lead in self driving vehicles. The loosening of government regulations will speed up their timeline for nationwide fully autonomous vehicles. If Elon lost 90% of his customer base by switching his political stance his company will still gain in value when robotaxis are deployed in every major city.
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  • Tim Simmons
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    Assuming there’s a company left by the time they get to that point. 
  • mrussel1
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    Evel K said:
    The real value of Tesla will be realized with mass adoption of autonomous vehicles, robotaxi in the near term.  They were light years ahead of everyone in EV engineering so there's no reason to doubt they will lead in self driving vehicles. The loosening of government regulations will speed up their timeline for nationwide fully autonomous vehicles. If Elon lost 90% of his customer base by switching his political stance his company will still gain in value when robotaxis are deployed in every major city.
    This is the only strategy that Team Elon and his inglorious defenders point to today.  Their trailing 12 EPS is $1.74!!  Their TTM PE is $163.  By contrast, Toyota's EPS is 28.76 with a PE of $28.67.  This makes it perfectly clear that TSLA continues to be way over-priced against their fundamentals.  At some point, very soon, they will start trading like a car manufacturer.  I would not want a strong position in the company when that happens. 

    I know this talking point around robotaxis and autonomous vehicles is rampant in the right wing ecosystem  It appears you might inhabit that space.  But it's a pipe dream, particularly in the next decade.  Buyers continue to move away from pure EV and towards hybrid so moving to full autonomous is WAY OFF in the future.  Americans are not ready for that and the safety isn't in place either.  Last, robotaxis.. sure.  Do a little research on the power of the taxi unions in major cities across the US.  It took Uber a decade to break into the Vegas market.  

    TSLA is a terrible investment.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    The real value of Tesla will be realized with mass adoption of autonomous vehicles, robotaxi in the near term.  They were light years ahead of everyone in EV engineering so there's no reason to doubt they will lead in self driving vehicles. The loosening of government regulations will speed up their timeline for nationwide fully autonomous vehicles. If Elon lost 90% of his customer base by switching his political stance his company will still gain in value when robotaxis are deployed in every major city.
    This is the only strategy that Team Elon and his inglorious defenders point to today.  Their trailing 12 EPS is $1.74!!  Their TTM PE is $163.  By contrast, Toyota's EPS is 28.76 with a PE of $28.67.  This makes it perfectly clear that TSLA continues to be way over-priced against their fundamentals.  At some point, very soon, they will start trading like a car manufacturer.  I would not want a strong position in the company when that happens. 

    I know this talking point around robotaxis and autonomous vehicles is rampant in the right wing ecosystem  It appears you might inhabit that space.  But it's a pipe dream, particularly in the next decade.  Buyers continue to move away from pure EV and towards hybrid so moving to full autonomous is WAY OFF in the future.  Americans are not ready for that and the safety isn't in place either.  Last, robotaxis.. sure.  Do a little research on the power of the taxi unions in major cities across the US.  It took Uber a decade to break into the Vegas market.  

    TSLA is a terrible investment.  
    “Too big to fail?” And I agree, Robotaxis are two decades away and even then I wouldn’t ride in one. Imagine hackers locking the doors and having people delivered wherever they wanted? Fuck that noise. Trust Elongitaint? GTFO.
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  • Evel K
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    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    The real value of Tesla will be realized with mass adoption of autonomous vehicles, robotaxi in the near term.  They were light years ahead of everyone in EV engineering so there's no reason to doubt they will lead in self driving vehicles. The loosening of government regulations will speed up their timeline for nationwide fully autonomous vehicles. If Elon lost 90% of his customer base by switching his political stance his company will still gain in value when robotaxis are deployed in every major city.
    This is the only strategy that Team Elon and his inglorious defenders point to today.  Their trailing 12 EPS is $1.74!!  Their TTM PE is $163.  By contrast, Toyota's EPS is 28.76 with a PE of $28.67.  This makes it perfectly clear that TSLA continues to be way over-priced against their fundamentals.  At some point, very soon, they will start trading like a car manufacturer.  I would not want a strong position in the company when that happens. 

    I know this talking point around robotaxis and autonomous vehicles is rampant in the right wing ecosystem  It appears you might inhabit that space.  But it's a pipe dream, particularly in the next decade.  Buyers continue to move away from pure EV and towards hybrid so moving to full autonomous is WAY OFF in the future.  Americans are not ready for that and the safety isn't in place either.  Last, robotaxis.. sure.  Do a little research on the power of the taxi unions in major cities across the US.  It took Uber a decade to break into the Vegas market.  

    TSLA is a terrible investment.  
    Tesla is a tech company that sells cars. I used to think Elon had too many irons in the fire, but never doubted his vision.  I'm not a financial adviser and this is not financial advice. Tesla has outperformed every company in the Mag 7 except Nvidia in the last 5 years. There could come a day when Optimus robots are building robots and everyone will regret letting emotions and politics dictate their portfolio. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    His vision was never to save the world (not that electric cars will do that) or advance humanity. It was and remains to maximize wealth and stroke his ego. He was born into shitloads of money. That is and has always been his greatest asset.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Evel K said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Evel K said:
    The real value of Tesla will be realized with mass adoption of autonomous vehicles, robotaxi in the near term.  They were light years ahead of everyone in EV engineering so there's no reason to doubt they will lead in self driving vehicles. The loosening of government regulations will speed up their timeline for nationwide fully autonomous vehicles. If Elon lost 90% of his customer base by switching his political stance his company will still gain in value when robotaxis are deployed in every major city.
    This is the only strategy that Team Elon and his inglorious defenders point to today.  Their trailing 12 EPS is $1.74!!  Their TTM PE is $163.  By contrast, Toyota's EPS is 28.76 with a PE of $28.67.  This makes it perfectly clear that TSLA continues to be way over-priced against their fundamentals.  At some point, very soon, they will start trading like a car manufacturer.  I would not want a strong position in the company when that happens. 

    I know this talking point around robotaxis and autonomous vehicles is rampant in the right wing ecosystem  It appears you might inhabit that space.  But it's a pipe dream, particularly in the next decade.  Buyers continue to move away from pure EV and towards hybrid so moving to full autonomous is WAY OFF in the future.  Americans are not ready for that and the safety isn't in place either.  Last, robotaxis.. sure.  Do a little research on the power of the taxi unions in major cities across the US.  It took Uber a decade to break into the Vegas market.  

    TSLA is a terrible investment.  
    Tesla is a tech company that sells cars. I used to think Elon had too many irons in the fire, but never doubted his vision.  I'm not a financial adviser and this is not financial advice. Tesla has outperformed every company in the Mag 7 except Nvidia in the last 5 years. There could come a day when Optimus robots are building robots and everyone will regret letting emotions and politics dictate their portfolio. 
    TSLA is priced like a tech start company, meaning investors were focused on the top line.  For mature companies, you are not priced on revenue, you are priced EBIT, or the equivalent.  When you are 15 years into public trading, you don't get to be a tech start-up anymore.  Some investors have stuck with TSLA, obviously, but look at their fundamentals.  They are years away from robo or autonomous being profitable.  So until then, they have to rely on the car manufacturing as their profit and cash engine since tech is nothing but a cash burn. 

    Regarding the Mag 7, who cares?  What you did the last five years is irrelevant to your future position.  When your profits drop 71% in a quarter, that's a problem.  And when that drop is almost solely based on the political actions of your CEO, who somehow decided to alienate his customer base, that's even a bigger problem.  This is the right wing version of Bud Light, but even more painful since Bud Light was a brand within a much larger company.