Elon Musk

DE4173

gimmesometruth27 said:

austin is a liberal city. i am surprised he would give them the first opportunity.

Maybe it's less being liberal and more that they don't set their Waymo's on fire.🤷‍♂️

mickeyrat

less oversight in texas.

Tim Simmons

DE4173 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

austin is a liberal city. i am surprised he would give them the first opportunity.

Maybe it's less being liberal and more that they don't set their Waymo's on fire.🤷‍♂️

give it time

mickeyrat

Exclusive: After Trump feud, role of Musk's SpaceX in Golden Dome missile shield in question  - https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/after-trump-feud-role-musks-spacex-golden-dome-missile-shield-question-2025-06-12/

OnWis97

Is the feud even a thing anymore? Have the two most knee-jerk people on the planet said anything about this since June 5?

gimmesometruth27

they made up. all good now, seeing as it was somehow bad for both of them.

mickeyrat

OnWis97 said:

Is the feud even a thing anymore? Have the two most knee-jerk people on the planet said anything about this since June 5?

seems the protests in LA presented an opportunity .  although Elmo has said since maybe he went too far in twatting. 

mickeyrat

Tim Simmons

I know it’s easy to laugh at Elon’s rockets continually blowing up  

mickeyrat

gimmesometruth27

yeah doge should have cut the funding for that ridiculousness. literally burning our money.

mickeyrat

PJ_Soul

This is absolutely INSANE. 

Elon Musk isn’t happy with his AI chatbot. Experts worry he’s trying to make Grok 4 in his image

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/tech/grok-4-elon-musk-ai

Tim Simmons

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

Tim Simmons

I like electric cars and want to explore space shit too. But i'm not about to pledge some parasocial fealty to one of the biggest weirdos out there.

josevolution

I don’t care if he’s weird I can live with weird but he’s just a terrible human being no wonder fuckface likes/liked him, birds of a feather flock together 

Tim Simmons

Ah. Sorry. IMO "awful" is the new weird.

The old "weird" (Like, Keep Austin Weird, etc) are just normal people doing their thing. 

Halifax2TheMax

Tim Simmons said:

Ah. Sorry. IMO "awful" is the new weird.

The old "weird" (Like, Keep Austin Weird, etc) are just normal people doing their thing. 

And other people having tolerance for it. Ahh, the good old days.

josevolution

Tim Simmons said:

Ah. Sorry. IMO "awful" is the new weird.

The old "weird" (Like, Keep Austin Weird, etc) are just normal people doing their thing. 

Ah yes that makes sense! That weird bastard 

OnWis97

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

gimmesometruth27

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

PJ_Soul

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

gimmesometruth27

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

he is a sociopath. 

every billionaire and every ceo is.

Poncier

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

he is a sociopath. 

every billionaire and every ceo is.

Halifax2TheMax

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

he is a sociopath. 

every billionaire and every ceo is.

Are Warren Buffet and Bill Gates sociopaths? They don’t strike me as such as they’re giving away major chunks of their fortune, Warren giving $6B away recently.

Also, bozos’ ex, Mackenzie Scott, doesn’t strike me as such because she’s also giving away a lot of money. I also haven’t heard of any of them behaving as a sociopath might.

brianlux

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

he is a sociopath. 

every billionaire and every ceo is.

I've been in this discussion of number of times in a number of places.  My viewpoint about billionaires is that some are better than others, some are worse.  Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are better because the donate a lot of money to good causes.  But the problem is with the fact that they are billionaires in the first place.  A person can only become a billionaire at the expense of, and often the misery of others, as well as at the expense of the health of the planet.  Being mega rich always causes more harm that it does good.  

PJ_Soul

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

he is a sociopath. 

every billionaire and every ceo is.

I'm talking about how he changed so significantly though. I wanna know what the catalyst was for that. 

mrussel1

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

he is a sociopath. 

every billionaire and every ceo is.

I'm talking about how he changed so significantly though. I wanna know what the catalyst was for that. 

It’s an interesting question. He will of course blame “woke” and to some extent he’s angry about his son transitioning . But is that enough to do the things he’s done?  My most cynical side thinks he was really wanted to kill both competition for defense contracts and the oversight by the govt. Supporting Trump was a means to that end. It was a huge gamble and it paid off, but not sure he anticipated the blowback from his customer base. 

Gern Blansten

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

PJ_Soul said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

OnWis97 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Dude is such a turd. No idea why people look up to him. 

It's kind of analogous to the Apprentice. People have been fed the idea that Trump is this brilliant businessperson. Similarly, Elon's been able to promote himself as this amazing visionary. But the bottom line is, most of what both of them are is rich by birthright.

I think the difference is that Trump has always been a dumbass, whereas Elon has sort of fallen down some strange rabbit hole. I don't think he was always entirely altruistic or anything but I think he used to at least just do his thing without acting like a constant victim and being addicted to the praise.

the richest man in the world could never ever be altruistic. one does not amass that kind of wealth if they were doing things for the benefit of other people.

No, but at least he was still doing something useful, which is more than anyone can say about Trump. I wish I could know why Musk lost his mind. Was it really mostly about the drugs?? 

he is a sociopath. 

every billionaire and every ceo is.

I'm talking about how he changed so significantly though. I wanna know what the catalyst was for that. 

It’s an interesting question. He will of course blame “woke” and to some extent he’s angry about his son transitioning . But is that enough to do the things he’s done?  My most cynical side thinks he was really wanted to kill both competition for defense contracts and the oversight by the govt. Supporting Trump was a means to that end. It was a huge gamble and it paid off, but not sure he anticipated the blowback from his customer base. 

I still wonder who reached out first...did trump reach out to Musk with some sort of "help me get elected and I'll make it worth your while" or did Musk cook this up himself?

It seems like Musk was doing ok under Biden so I'm really curious about that. 

OnWis97

I think part of his recent motivation is about government contracts and scrutiny. He knows Trump's a buffoon, but he also knows they can use each other to a great extent.

That all said, something seems to have broken in his brain. He's obsessed with perceptions, like the story that left the Super Bowl because Biden's Tweet was outperforming his or when his staff considered a wellness check after he was booed at a Dave Chapelle show. He seems quite fragile and while that's always probably been there, I think the more he put himself out there publicly, the more he felt he had to control the narrative. He doesn't seem built for public scrutiny. (I say this as someone probably not built for public scrutiny).

So if you want to be praised without question, go MAGA. Once you're all in on Trump, you have 100 million people that will find you infallible. And while another 50 million will hate you, when you own the premier (mis)information source in the world, you can pretend that away.

I'm not sure whether his having a trans child led to his crusade against wokeness or whether his jumping on the anti-wokeness bandwagon led him to declare that his son has died. Either way, though, I think fragility is a huge factor here. It's astonishing how insecurity and being a victim are seen as strength nowadays from people that used to decry victimhood.