SpaceX and all the good space stuff

Meltdown99

I have a question?  No worries, I will keep the thread integrity.  I read earlier in the week that the US is only booked with Russia until 2019 on the Soyuz ... it was also mentioned that both Boeing and SpaceX are a year behind schedule.  How does the US get their astronauts to the ISS?  It didn't sound like there was any room on the soyuz.   They were paying Russia 80 million a pop for the ride...

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

I have a question?  No worries, I will keep the thread integrity.  I read earlier in the week that the US is only booked with Russia until 2019 on the Soyuz ... it was also mentioned that both Boeing and SpaceX are a year behind schedule.  How does the US get their astronauts to the ISS?  It didn't sound like there was any room on the soyuz.   They were paying Russia 80 million a pop for the ride...

Only the Soyuz takes cosmonauts and astronauts to the ISS. All the Soyuz is is a transport for the ISS. It's a space shuttle. It only fits a few people at a time, so I'm not sure what you mean about there being no room.... Obviously they schedule people to go up in it... Yeah, sure, of course other space agencies are going to have to fund the trips if they want to use the shuttle. Russia's not doing it for free. But it's all a very cooperative kind of thing. The world's space agencies often collaborate, work together, share info, and share equipment.

Not sure about Boeing and SpaceX being behind schedule... behind with what? I feel like all of their space projects are on a "we're doing the best we can" kind of basis, lol.

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

I have a question?  No worries, I will keep the thread integrity.  I read earlier in the week that the US is only booked with Russia until 2019 on the Soyuz ... it was also mentioned that both Boeing and SpaceX are a year behind schedule.  How does the US get their astronauts to the ISS?  It didn't sound like there was any room on the soyuz.   They were paying Russia 80 million a pop for the ride...

Only the Soyuz takes cosmonauts and astronauts to the ISS. All the Soyuz is is a transport for the ISS. It's a space shuttle. It only fits a few people at a time, so I'm not sure what you mean about there being no room.... Obviously they schedule people to go up in it... Yeah, sure, of course other space agencies are going to have to fund the trips if they want to use the shuttle. Russia's not doing it for free. But it's all a very cooperative kind of thing. The world's space agencies often collaborate, work together, share info, and share equipment.

Not sure about Boeing and SpaceX being behind schedule... behind with what? I feel like all of their space projects are on a "we're doing the best we can" kind of basis, lol.

  I will look for the article.  Then we can discuss.  

Meltdown99

NASA confirms delays in Boeing and SpaceX commercial crew flights

https://spacenews.com/nasa-confirms-delays-in-boeing-and-spacex-commercial-crew-flights/

I'm under the impression that NASA will be using one of these?

Meltdown99

NASA Has Finally Named a Winner in the SpaceX vs. Boeing Race to Send Astronauts Into Space

http://fortune.com/2018/08/03/spacex-boeing-nasa-iss-crewed-flight-tests/

Now we can discuss

HesCalledDyer

PJ_Soul said:

The first-stage Falcon 9 rocket, which launched the Dragon Cargo, was meant to land on land after returning to Earth, but clearly something when wrong and it landed on water (see cool video of failed landing here: https://www.space.com/42648-spacex-failed-rocket-landing-attempt-video.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20181206-sdc ).

As usual, Elon Musk was on Twitter discussing the whole thing... and it's Tweets like this, finishing his explanation of what went wrong by saying what they'll try next time, that make me admire him and what he does so much. I don't give a shit how weird he might act or anything like that (although I don't think he's very weird at all FWIW) - Musk is the kind of person we need doing these things (missteps and all). He is reactive, and so, so busy just 'going for it' - it seems like he's got something cool happening practically everyday, and he's learning something and re-thinking things after every single thing he does. And keeping the world informed about it constantly. I think it's great.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I never quite understood the "weird" claims either.  I guess that comes from not being a typical billionaire businessman in a suit doing typical billionaire businessman things, sitting back on a yacht while others do all the work for him.  He's involved first-hand, he's intelligent, informative, and takes ownership & responsibility.  I, too, am glad that we have someone like him who uses their wealth to try to advance our society instead of set us back out of fear of the unfamiliar.

Meltdown99

NASA Plans to Build a Moon-Orbiting Space Station: Here's What You Should Know

https://www.space.com/41763-nasa-lunar-orbiting-platform-gateway-basics.html

When I first read this, I thought this was cool...

oftenreading

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

The first-stage Falcon 9 rocket, which launched the Dragon Cargo, was meant to land on land after returning to Earth, but clearly something when wrong and it landed on water (see cool video of failed landing here: https://www.space.com/42648-spacex-failed-rocket-landing-attempt-video.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20181206-sdc ).

As usual, Elon Musk was on Twitter discussing the whole thing... and it's Tweets like this, finishing his explanation of what went wrong by saying what they'll try next time, that make me admire him and what he does so much. I don't give a shit how weird he might act or anything like that (although I don't think he's very weird at all FWIW) - Musk is the kind of person we need doing these things (missteps and all). He is reactive, and so, so busy just 'going for it' - it seems like he's got something cool happening practically everyday, and he's learning something and re-thinking things after every single thing he does. And keeping the world informed about it constantly. I think it's great.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I never quite understood the "weird" claims either.  I guess that comes from not being a typical billionaire businessman in a suit doing typical billionaire businessman things, sitting back on a yacht while others do all the work for him.  He's involved first-hand, he's intelligent, informative, and takes ownership & responsibility.  I, too, am glad that we have someone like him who uses their wealth to try to advance our society instead of set us back out of fear of the unfamiliar.

There’s more than just being a nonconformists. Musk also made those really inappropriate comments alleging that the cave diver in that Thai case was a “pedo”, then said it was “strange” that he didn’t sue Musk I’d he was really innocent. That’s the worst that I’m aware of but there’s more that’s pretty odd, and somewhat vindictive. 

PJ_Soul

oftenreading said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

The first-stage Falcon 9 rocket, which launched the Dragon Cargo, was meant to land on land after returning to Earth, but clearly something when wrong and it landed on water (see cool video of failed landing here: https://www.space.com/42648-spacex-failed-rocket-landing-attempt-video.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20181206-sdc ).

As usual, Elon Musk was on Twitter discussing the whole thing... and it's Tweets like this, finishing his explanation of what went wrong by saying what they'll try next time, that make me admire him and what he does so much. I don't give a shit how weird he might act or anything like that (although I don't think he's very weird at all FWIW) - Musk is the kind of person we need doing these things (missteps and all). He is reactive, and so, so busy just 'going for it' - it seems like he's got something cool happening practically everyday, and he's learning something and re-thinking things after every single thing he does. And keeping the world informed about it constantly. I think it's great.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I never quite understood the "weird" claims either.  I guess that comes from not being a typical billionaire businessman in a suit doing typical billionaire businessman things, sitting back on a yacht while others do all the work for him.  He's involved first-hand, he's intelligent, informative, and takes ownership & responsibility.  I, too, am glad that we have someone like him who uses their wealth to try to advance our society instead of set us back out of fear of the unfamiliar.

There’s more than just being a nonconformists. Musk also made those really inappropriate comments alleging that the cave diver in that Thai case was a “pedo”, then said it was “strange” that he didn’t sue Musk I’d he was really innocent. That’s the worst that I’m aware of but there’s more that’s pretty odd, and somewhat vindictive. 

I thought the "pedo" comment was basically "justified". I mean, it was a really really bad choice of words and I don't think he should have used it, but I think Elon just had an angry emotional reaction to the fact that that guy was shitting on Musk's very sincere attempt to try and save those kids. He just made a mistake by using "pedo" as a strange random insult rather than "fuck face" or something like that, lol. I don't read anything more into that. I do think he needs to drop the term as a fucking insult obviously, because yeah, that's a bit odd. But if that's as weird as it gets, then he's not weird IMO, lol. I also don't think Musk is especially vindictive. I think he's just reacting to unwarranted criticism like a normal annoyed person, and I think his annoyance is warranted. I guess most people in his position would show a bit more restraint, and I'm sure he's aware that learning how to do that would be in his best interests, at least most of the time. I think he's just learning how to be super fucking famous, and trying to figure out how to be really open with the population about his work, which is important to him and us, and still somehow avoid slip ups and faux pas. It's very very difficult I think.

oftenreading

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

The first-stage Falcon 9 rocket, which launched the Dragon Cargo, was meant to land on land after returning to Earth, but clearly something when wrong and it landed on water (see cool video of failed landing here: https://www.space.com/42648-spacex-failed-rocket-landing-attempt-video.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20181206-sdc ).

As usual, Elon Musk was on Twitter discussing the whole thing... and it's Tweets like this, finishing his explanation of what went wrong by saying what they'll try next time, that make me admire him and what he does so much. I don't give a shit how weird he might act or anything like that (although I don't think he's very weird at all FWIW) - Musk is the kind of person we need doing these things (missteps and all). He is reactive, and so, so busy just 'going for it' - it seems like he's got something cool happening practically everyday, and he's learning something and re-thinking things after every single thing he does. And keeping the world informed about it constantly. I think it's great.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I never quite understood the "weird" claims either.  I guess that comes from not being a typical billionaire businessman in a suit doing typical billionaire businessman things, sitting back on a yacht while others do all the work for him.  He's involved first-hand, he's intelligent, informative, and takes ownership & responsibility.  I, too, am glad that we have someone like him who uses their wealth to try to advance our society instead of set us back out of fear of the unfamiliar.

There’s more than just being a nonconformists. Musk also made those really inappropriate comments alleging that the cave diver in that Thai case was a “pedo”, then said it was “strange” that he didn’t sue Musk I’d he was really innocent. That’s the worst that I’m aware of but there’s more that’s pretty odd, and somewhat vindictive. 

I thought the "pedo" comment was basically "justified". I mean, it was a really really bad choice of words and I don't think he should have used it, but I think Elon just had an angry emotional reaction to the fact that that guy was shitting on Musk's very sincere attempt to try and save those kids. He just made a mistake by using "pedo" as a strange random insult rather than "fuck face" or something like that, lol. I don't read anything more into that. I do think he needs to drop the term as a fucking insult obviously, because yeah, that's a bit odd. But if that's as weird as it gets, then he's not weird IMO, lol. I also don't think Musk is especially vindictive. I think he's just reacting to unwarranted criticism like a normal annoyed person, and I think his annoyance is warranted. I guess most people in his position would show a bit more restraint, and I'm sure he's aware that learning how to do that would be in his best interests, at least most of the time. I think he's just learning how to be super fucking famous, and trying to figure out how to be really open with the population about his work, which is important to him and us, and still somehow avoid slip ups and faux pas. It's very very difficult I think.

No, I’m not buying that. I don’t believe that anyone accidentally calls someone a “pedo” as a general insult. He meant what he said, with no justification, and later on he doubled down on it and said it again. He responded like someone who typically gets adulation for his actions and was shocked that someone would call what he did unhelpful, which it was. Whether he made the offer out of a genuine attempt to help, or whether he made it for self-aggrandizement isn’t clear, but he certainly reacted pretty badly when he was called on it. 
 

PJ_Soul

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

The first-stage Falcon 9 rocket, which launched the Dragon Cargo, was meant to land on land after returning to Earth, but clearly something when wrong and it landed on water (see cool video of failed landing here: https://www.space.com/42648-spacex-failed-rocket-landing-attempt-video.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20181206-sdc ).

As usual, Elon Musk was on Twitter discussing the whole thing... and it's Tweets like this, finishing his explanation of what went wrong by saying what they'll try next time, that make me admire him and what he does so much. I don't give a shit how weird he might act or anything like that (although I don't think he's very weird at all FWIW) - Musk is the kind of person we need doing these things (missteps and all). He is reactive, and so, so busy just 'going for it' - it seems like he's got something cool happening practically everyday, and he's learning something and re-thinking things after every single thing he does. And keeping the world informed about it constantly. I think it's great.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I never quite understood the "weird" claims either.  I guess that comes from not being a typical billionaire businessman in a suit doing typical billionaire businessman things, sitting back on a yacht while others do all the work for him.  He's involved first-hand, he's intelligent, informative, and takes ownership & responsibility.  I, too, am glad that we have someone like him who uses their wealth to try to advance our society instead of set us back out of fear of the unfamiliar.

There’s more than just being a nonconformists. Musk also made those really inappropriate comments alleging that the cave diver in that Thai case was a “pedo”, then said it was “strange” that he didn’t sue Musk I’d he was really innocent. That’s the worst that I’m aware of but there’s more that’s pretty odd, and somewhat vindictive. 

I thought the "pedo" comment was basically "justified". I mean, it was a really really bad choice of words and I don't think he should have used it, but I think Elon just had an angry emotional reaction to the fact that that guy was shitting on Musk's very sincere attempt to try and save those kids. He just made a mistake by using "pedo" as a strange random insult rather than "fuck face" or something like that, lol. I don't read anything more into that. I do think he needs to drop the term as a fucking insult obviously, because yeah, that's a bit odd. But if that's as weird as it gets, then he's not weird IMO, lol. I also don't think Musk is especially vindictive. I think he's just reacting to unwarranted criticism like a normal annoyed person, and I think his annoyance is warranted. I guess most people in his position would show a bit more restraint, and I'm sure he's aware that learning how to do that would be in his best interests, at least most of the time. I think he's just learning how to be super fucking famous, and trying to figure out how to be really open with the population about his work, which is important to him and us, and still somehow avoid slip ups and faux pas. It's very very difficult I think.

No, I’m not buying that. I don’t believe that anyone accidentally calls someone a “pedo” as a general insult. He meant what he said, with no justification, and later on he doubled down on it and said it again. He responded like someone who typically gets adulation for his actions and was shocked that someone would call what he did unhelpful, which it was. Whether he made the offer out of a genuine attempt to help, or whether he made it for self-aggrandizement isn’t clear, but he certainly reacted pretty badly when he was called on it. 
 

I didn't say he accidentally used the word - that would be crazy. I'm saying that he has that word in his insult words repertoire, lol. Which he clearly should not. That plus tweeting it like that was the mistake (not accident). I would assume that he's removed it from his repertoire now, lol. What I am saying is that he didn't literally mean that he thought the guy is a pedophile.

Anyway, I think he's handling a lot of bullshit directed at him better than the average person probably would. And I think he gets WAY more flack than he deserves, and that his reaction to it is closer to normal than it would be if he dealt with it better, lol. Most people would deal with it worse. Maybe sad, but probably true.

As for why he tried to help the kids trapped in the cave... It certainly is cynical to assume he did it out of ego and not a desire to help. That's some of that bullshit I was talking about. He doesn't deserve people jumping to that conclusion IMO. I don't think there is any reason at all to assume it wasn't because he wanted to help (yes, with his impressive innovative stuff that he makes), and I'm very comfortable giving him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Because I'm not cynical about Elon Musk. He is good for this world IMO. I'm an unabashed fan (obviously), for a lot of what I think are great reasons.

oftenreading

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

The first-stage Falcon 9 rocket, which launched the Dragon Cargo, was meant to land on land after returning to Earth, but clearly something when wrong and it landed on water (see cool video of failed landing here: https://www.space.com/42648-spacex-failed-rocket-landing-attempt-video.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20181206-sdc ).

As usual, Elon Musk was on Twitter discussing the whole thing... and it's Tweets like this, finishing his explanation of what went wrong by saying what they'll try next time, that make me admire him and what he does so much. I don't give a shit how weird he might act or anything like that (although I don't think he's very weird at all FWIW) - Musk is the kind of person we need doing these things (missteps and all). He is reactive, and so, so busy just 'going for it' - it seems like he's got something cool happening practically everyday, and he's learning something and re-thinking things after every single thing he does. And keeping the world informed about it constantly. I think it's great.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I never quite understood the "weird" claims either.  I guess that comes from not being a typical billionaire businessman in a suit doing typical billionaire businessman things, sitting back on a yacht while others do all the work for him.  He's involved first-hand, he's intelligent, informative, and takes ownership & responsibility.  I, too, am glad that we have someone like him who uses their wealth to try to advance our society instead of set us back out of fear of the unfamiliar.

There’s more than just being a nonconformists. Musk also made those really inappropriate comments alleging that the cave diver in that Thai case was a “pedo”, then said it was “strange” that he didn’t sue Musk I’d he was really innocent. That’s the worst that I’m aware of but there’s more that’s pretty odd, and somewhat vindictive. 

I thought the "pedo" comment was basically "justified". I mean, it was a really really bad choice of words and I don't think he should have used it, but I think Elon just had an angry emotional reaction to the fact that that guy was shitting on Musk's very sincere attempt to try and save those kids. He just made a mistake by using "pedo" as a strange random insult rather than "fuck face" or something like that, lol. I don't read anything more into that. I do think he needs to drop the term as a fucking insult obviously, because yeah, that's a bit odd. But if that's as weird as it gets, then he's not weird IMO, lol. I also don't think Musk is especially vindictive. I think he's just reacting to unwarranted criticism like a normal annoyed person, and I think his annoyance is warranted. I guess most people in his position would show a bit more restraint, and I'm sure he's aware that learning how to do that would be in his best interests, at least most of the time. I think he's just learning how to be super fucking famous, and trying to figure out how to be really open with the population about his work, which is important to him and us, and still somehow avoid slip ups and faux pas. It's very very difficult I think.

No, I’m not buying that. I don’t believe that anyone accidentally calls someone a “pedo” as a general insult. He meant what he said, with no justification, and later on he doubled down on it and said it again. He responded like someone who typically gets adulation for his actions and was shocked that someone would call what he did unhelpful, which it was. Whether he made the offer out of a genuine attempt to help, or whether he made it for self-aggrandizement isn’t clear, but he certainly reacted pretty badly when he was called on it. 
 

I didn't say he accidentally used the word - that would be crazy. I'm saying that he has that word in his insult words repertoire, lol. Which he clearly should not. That plus tweeting it like that was the mistake (not accident). I would assume that he's removed it from his repertoire now, lol. What I am saying is that he didn't literally mean that he thought the guy is a pedophile.

Anyway, I think he's handling a lot of bullshit directed at him better than the average person probably would. And I think he gets WAY more flack than he deserves, and that his reaction to it is closer to normal than it would be if he dealt with it better, lol. Most people would deal with it worse. Maybe sad, but probably true.

As for why he tried to help the kids trapped in the cave... It certainly is cynical to assume he did it out of ego and not a desire to help. That's some of that bullshit I was talking about. He doesn't deserve people jumping to that conclusion IMO. I don't think there is any reason at all to assume it wasn't because he wanted to help (yes, with his impressive innovative stuff that he makes), and I'm very comfortable giving him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Because I'm not cynical about Elon Musk. He is good for this world IMO. I'm an unabashed fan (obviously), for a lot of what I think are great reasons.

I’m cynical because, from what I understand, there was clearly no role for what he offered. 

And still very cynical on his use of “pedo” as just another insult. He knew what he was implying. I also don’t think he thought the guy was, but that makes the allegation even worse. That’s not an allegation to make lightly. 

Meltdown99

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

Sorry, 

I like the comma. It implies that there's a "but" there, without actually saying it

No but...

PJ_Soul

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

The first-stage Falcon 9 rocket, which launched the Dragon Cargo, was meant to land on land after returning to Earth, but clearly something when wrong and it landed on water (see cool video of failed landing here: https://www.space.com/42648-spacex-failed-rocket-landing-attempt-video.html?utm_source=sdc-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20181206-sdc ).

As usual, Elon Musk was on Twitter discussing the whole thing... and it's Tweets like this, finishing his explanation of what went wrong by saying what they'll try next time, that make me admire him and what he does so much. I don't give a shit how weird he might act or anything like that (although I don't think he's very weird at all FWIW) - Musk is the kind of person we need doing these things (missteps and all). He is reactive, and so, so busy just 'going for it' - it seems like he's got something cool happening practically everyday, and he's learning something and re-thinking things after every single thing he does. And keeping the world informed about it constantly. I think it's great.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070388894875545600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I never quite understood the "weird" claims either.  I guess that comes from not being a typical billionaire businessman in a suit doing typical billionaire businessman things, sitting back on a yacht while others do all the work for him.  He's involved first-hand, he's intelligent, informative, and takes ownership & responsibility.  I, too, am glad that we have someone like him who uses their wealth to try to advance our society instead of set us back out of fear of the unfamiliar.

There’s more than just being a nonconformists. Musk also made those really inappropriate comments alleging that the cave diver in that Thai case was a “pedo”, then said it was “strange” that he didn’t sue Musk I’d he was really innocent. That’s the worst that I’m aware of but there’s more that’s pretty odd, and somewhat vindictive. 

I thought the "pedo" comment was basically "justified". I mean, it was a really really bad choice of words and I don't think he should have used it, but I think Elon just had an angry emotional reaction to the fact that that guy was shitting on Musk's very sincere attempt to try and save those kids. He just made a mistake by using "pedo" as a strange random insult rather than "fuck face" or something like that, lol. I don't read anything more into that. I do think he needs to drop the term as a fucking insult obviously, because yeah, that's a bit odd. But if that's as weird as it gets, then he's not weird IMO, lol. I also don't think Musk is especially vindictive. I think he's just reacting to unwarranted criticism like a normal annoyed person, and I think his annoyance is warranted. I guess most people in his position would show a bit more restraint, and I'm sure he's aware that learning how to do that would be in his best interests, at least most of the time. I think he's just learning how to be super fucking famous, and trying to figure out how to be really open with the population about his work, which is important to him and us, and still somehow avoid slip ups and faux pas. It's very very difficult I think.

No, I’m not buying that. I don’t believe that anyone accidentally calls someone a “pedo” as a general insult. He meant what he said, with no justification, and later on he doubled down on it and said it again. He responded like someone who typically gets adulation for his actions and was shocked that someone would call what he did unhelpful, which it was. Whether he made the offer out of a genuine attempt to help, or whether he made it for self-aggrandizement isn’t clear, but he certainly reacted pretty badly when he was called on it. 
 

I didn't say he accidentally used the word - that would be crazy. I'm saying that he has that word in his insult words repertoire, lol. Which he clearly should not. That plus tweeting it like that was the mistake (not accident). I would assume that he's removed it from his repertoire now, lol. What I am saying is that he didn't literally mean that he thought the guy is a pedophile.

Anyway, I think he's handling a lot of bullshit directed at him better than the average person probably would. And I think he gets WAY more flack than he deserves, and that his reaction to it is closer to normal than it would be if he dealt with it better, lol. Most people would deal with it worse. Maybe sad, but probably true.

As for why he tried to help the kids trapped in the cave... It certainly is cynical to assume he did it out of ego and not a desire to help. That's some of that bullshit I was talking about. He doesn't deserve people jumping to that conclusion IMO. I don't think there is any reason at all to assume it wasn't because he wanted to help (yes, with his impressive innovative stuff that he makes), and I'm very comfortable giving him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Because I'm not cynical about Elon Musk. He is good for this world IMO. I'm an unabashed fan (obviously), for a lot of what I think are great reasons.

I’m cynical because, from what I understand, there was clearly no role for what he offered. 

And still very cynical on his use of “pedo” as just another insult. He knew what he was implying. I also don’t think he thought the guy was, but that makes the allegation even worse. That’s not an allegation to make lightly. 

There ended up being no need for what he offered, but I think his intentions were good. I believe he thought it would be helpful.

Loke I said, the insult was dumb, but I really don't think he used it as an "allegation" at all. Jist a really really shitty way to basically say "you asshole jerk". Yes, it was a dumb fuck thing to tweet. That said, considering what he actually does, I'm more than willing to let it go in terms of how I view his work and how he goes about it. And I assume he learned a lesson from that nasty little incident.

Meltdown99

Elon Musk is an Idiot...

Meltdown99

SpaceX and Boeing competing to capture the American flag in space

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spacex-boeing-compete-space-race-capture-the-american-flag/

Both companies will operate competing space taxis for NASA, ending seven years of relying on Russia for rides to space.

This a great move.  The US should not be relying on other countries to get you to space...

Meltdown99

Chinese spacecraft launches for historic landing on far side of the moon

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/china-moon-landing-1.4936395?cmp=FB_Post_News&fbclid=IwAR1DVI28v8yr8mJcnyJQbnLnRT-ZeIqKsJGyDsEsnmIY1Vyp_-UzcbFez7M

Maybe the Chinese will verify if America went there...lol

Meltdown99

Nobody wants to talk about space.  I have been googling and reading, I'm ready to discuss SPACE!  The one answer I can't find is, what happens after November 2019 if SpaceX and Boeing are not ready...it sounds like the Soyuz has no space for the Americans...

oftenreading

Meltdown99 said:

Nobody wants to talk about space.  I have been googling and reading, I'm ready to discuss SPACE!  The one answer I can't find is, what happens after November 2019 if SpaceX and Boeing are not ready...it sounds like the Soyuz has no space for the Americans...

I guess they wait for a while. 

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And.... you’re posting too fast. I’m too busy at work to read all this today!