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PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:PJ_Soul said:mcgruff10 said:Gingerlou77 said:I find it amaxing how much people say it costs them! I did 8 shows this summer, biggest expense were tickets which i mistly buddied up on, granted, but i managed a week in Seattle for £600(flight and accommodation), a week in Europe for far far less and then a couple of overnighters, one in the airport, another on the sidewalk. Done! It really can be done on the cheap. And yes, i have kids and an averagely paid job....
Nope, Pearl Jam ain't worth sleeping in airports and on sidewalks. I guess I'm just not THAT big of a fan, lol.
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My wife and I sleep at an airport(not at the airport but on the flight home) to save time away from our kids. We do not have that many shows watched compared to some of you guys since our first show was in 2013. Really regret waiting that long and especially now with 3 kids it is very hard to juggle everything.
If I saw the band over 50 times and most of their catalogue live I probably would not see them that much too if ticket prices continue to climb. For me now though the price of the ticket is not that expensive when you factor everything in. I spent over 2000$ easily on my solo trip to Europe this summer. If they raised ticket prices to 150$ that would in noway change my plans as it really is just a small part of the adventure financially. I hope they can keep the ticket prices down of course but after seeing what other bands do especially for the closest seats in the house I really do appreciate what this band does for its fans.0 -
If prices get to a certain threshold, I think the people who are forced to buy a pair will stop buying.0
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Gingerlou77 said:I find it amaxing how much people say it costs them! I did 8 shows this summer, biggest expense were tickets which i mistly buddied up on, granted, but i managed a week in Seattle for £600(flight and accommodation), a week in Europe for far far less and then a couple of overnighters, one in the airport, another on the sidewalk. Done! It really can be done on the cheap. And yes, i have kids and an averagely paid job....
Now the average person. I did 3 nights in Chicago, split an AirBNB with a friend and ran me about $600 total for tickets to both shows, flight and room. For the 4 days if I include food, Uber and merch and everything else I spent a little over a thousand. Now I could have eaten cheaper, but why go to a place like Chicago just for the shows and not experience the city? I thought that was pretty cheap, but that was also a one-time thing. My wife wasn't too excited about me leaving her with a 2 and 4 year old and not being able to go with me. And I missed her not being there. If we were to do that together the cost would be doubled (assuming we get family to watch the kids for free). I don't think we could afford that trip together even if ticket prices stay the same, and I wouldn't even think about it if they went up.0 -
For me the hotel cost in Seattle was way more expensive than the tickets
It's night and day how much Seattle hotels cost in the Summer vs. Winter. The biggest thing PJ could do for me is play North America in the winter
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Zod said:For me the hotel cost in Seattle was way more expensive than the tickets
It's night and day how much Seattle hotels cost in the Summer vs. Winter. The biggest thing PJ could do for me is play North America in the winter
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I am thankful I don't have to book Boston hotels to see Boston shows.
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mace1229 said:I am a little surprised the music industry hasn't collapsed or something. PJ is the only band I'd ever pay $100 to see. My wife wants to see terrible shows like Pink and I look at tickets prices and gag. How does Pink fill up an arena at $200 a ticket?
I still catch some of my old favorites like Better Than Ezra and Weezer because they are still in the $40 range (about $65 after fees though).Is this where the show list goes?
11-26-91 / 8-2-92 / 3-15-94 / 7-9-95 / 7-11-95 / 8-29-98 / 9-1-00 / 10-25-03
10-23-04 / 10-22-06 / 10-9-09 / 10-23-10 / 10-3-12 / 7-9-13 / 10-21-13
11-24-13 / 11-26-13 / 10-17-14 / 10-20-14 / 10-25-14 / 4-8-16 / 4-9-16
4-28-16 / 4-29-16 / 8-20-16 / 8-22-16 / 8-10-18 / 8-18-18 / 8-20-180 -
mace1229 said:Lerxst1992 said:lolobugg said:Lerxst1992 said:lolobugg said:MayDay10 said:Same faces seem to be at the front regardless of GA.
right on. time to go back to seniority seating.I can only hope.
I'm on board with my high # as long as they charge fair prices.
Throw down tiers at $300 $200 and $100 into the draw then winners go in by club number. Even throw in a $400 tier and let's see who really wants to get closer.
Charging FOH and nose bleeds roughly the same is unamerican /s
no way, man. let's keep ticket prices "reasonable".you can throw down your $400 on a flux capacitor and go back to 91 and join the fanclub.
If I had that I'd buy apple Microsoft Google and some porcupine tree albums. Selling everything at same price is asking somebody else to subsidize you. I'd never trust their reserve seat policy again after that Fenway debacle.
10c was a poor deal for 15+ years and to this day selling a product without disclosure would not what I want part of my legacy to be. Love the band hate their business ideas.
I would agree the obstructed views that were not disclosed was bad. Those should have been disclosed and discounted, but that is probably not the fault of 10c, I'm guessing they had no idea which seats were obstructed or not, and probably rely on information from TM or the venue to disclose that. I guess its possible it was disclosed and they threw them in with the rest of the lotto. But that's the only valid complaint I see, everything else is just whining. Everyone knows of you have a high # you get crappy seats. SO take your chances with TM if it bothers you then.
Obviously I'm here mostly for the GA lottery rules change from a few years ago...are they on TM?
$125 for full obstructed view is not a cheap seat. $125 for upper deck nosebleeds is not a cheap seat. I am only asking for prices to be at fair market value. Charging the same for those categories and FOH is absurd.
Also, you must know the good or average seats for the last arena tour were not on TM. At least in my town.
Oh and forgot to mention, I had 4th row field box in my cart for Fenway , and mlb.com would not allow me to complete the transaction
Funny, I go to concerts and games all the time, but only obnoxious ticket buying issues I ever have involve this band.0 -
bbison said:mace1229 said:I am a little surprised the music industry hasn't collapsed or something. PJ is the only band I'd ever pay $100 to see. My wife wants to see terrible shows like Pink and I look at tickets prices and gag. How does Pink fill up an arena at $200 a ticket?
I still catch some of my old favorites like Better Than Ezra and Weezer because they are still in the $40 range (about $65 after fees though).0 -
Nick Freaking Mason with essentially a cover band playing pre Dark Side Floyd banging out FOH tix for $250 - $400 a pop and nosebleeds for $80.
Good for him. That's the way it should be done.0 -
Why do people pay high prices? Because the shows are generally fun and usually someone you care about wants the experience. I am embarrassed to tell what I paid to take my 13 year old son to see Paul McCartney at MSG. Worth every penny and then some. He wants to go see Post Malone and tix are running about $300 for decent seat. I will probably breakdown and do it even though I know it will be a 90 minute set with bad sound. Cant wait until my daughter wants to go to Jingle Ball. It is what it is. I have a harder time paying to see professional sports than musical acts. I guess since I am near NYC I am used to paying high prices for just about everything!0
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Many will have regret when the band no longer plays and then remember they could have seen them more but passed because the ticket was 25-35 bucks more0
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HawkeyeJam said:Many will have regret when the band no longer plays and then remember they could have seen them more but passed because the ticket was 25-35 bucks more"Going where the water tastes like wine!"0
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Get_Right said:Why do people pay high prices? Because the shows are generally fun and usually someone you care about wants the experience. I am embarrassed to tell what I paid to take my 13 year old son to see Paul McCartney at MSG. Worth every penny and then some. He wants to go see Post Malone and tix are running about $300 for decent seat. I will probably breakdown and do it even though I know it will be a 90 minute set with bad sound. Cant wait until my daughter wants to go to Jingle Ball. It is what it is. I have a harder time paying to see professional sports than musical acts. I guess since I am near NYC I am used to paying high prices for just about everything!
I'm embarrassed to admit what we spent for a series of Macca tix in 2016 and 17. But it was worth it. Wanted to make sure I got to see him a couple more times if he needed to retire. There is only one Macca. And he's a long island resident to boot.
Shows are expensive because traveling with a 50-60 person crew, related equipment costs, trucking, venue fees including backline expenses are not cheap. And the talent needs a cut or two.
If PJ can do all that for $125 a seat, great for them. It would be the best bargain in rock, if the price correlation between FOH and nosebleeds/obstructed view tickets made any sense at all in the free market.0 -
PJNB said:My wife and I sleep at an airport(not at the airport but on the flight home) to save time away from our kids. We do not have that many shows watched compared to some of you guys since our first show was in 2013. Really regret waiting that long and especially now with 3 kids it is very hard to juggle everything.
If I saw the band over 50 times and most of their catalogue live I probably would not see them that much too if ticket prices continue to climb. For me now though the price of the ticket is not that expensive when you factor everything in. I spent over 2000$ easily on my solo trip to Europe this summer. If they raised ticket prices to 150$ that would in noway change my plans as it really is just a small part of the adventure financially. I hope they can keep the ticket prices down of course but after seeing what other bands do especially for the closest seats in the house I really do appreciate what this band does for its fans.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
mace1229 said:Gingerlou77 said:I find it amaxing how much people say it costs them! I did 8 shows this summer, biggest expense were tickets which i mistly buddied up on, granted, but i managed a week in Seattle for £600(flight and accommodation), a week in Europe for far far less and then a couple of overnighters, one in the airport, another on the sidewalk. Done! It really can be done on the cheap. And yes, i have kids and an averagely paid job....
Now the average person. I did 3 nights in Chicago, split an AirBNB with a friend and ran me about $600 total for tickets to both shows, flight and room. For the 4 days if I include food, Uber and merch and everything else I spent a little over a thousand. Now I could have eaten cheaper, but why go to a place like Chicago just for the shows and not experience the city? I thought that was pretty cheap, but that was also a one-time thing. My wife wasn't too excited about me leaving her with a 2 and 4 year old and not being able to go with me. And I missed her not being there. If we were to do that together the cost would be doubled (assuming we get family to watch the kids for free). I don't think we could afford that trip together even if ticket prices stay the same, and I wouldn't even think about it if they went up.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Get_Right said:Why do people pay high prices? Because the shows are generally fun and usually someone you care about wants the experience. I am embarrassed to tell what I paid to take my 13 year old son to see Paul McCartney at MSG. Worth every penny and then some. He wants to go see Post Malone and tix are running about $300 for decent seat. I will probably breakdown and do it even though I know it will be a 90 minute set with bad sound. Cant wait until my daughter wants to go to Jingle Ball. It is what it is. I have a harder time paying to see professional sports than musical acts. I guess since I am near NYC I am used to paying high prices for just about everything!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul said:mace1229 said:Gingerlou77 said:I find it amaxing how much people say it costs them! I did 8 shows this summer, biggest expense were tickets which i mistly buddied up on, granted, but i managed a week in Seattle for £600(flight and accommodation), a week in Europe for far far less and then a couple of overnighters, one in the airport, another on the sidewalk. Done! It really can be done on the cheap. And yes, i have kids and an averagely paid job....
Now the average person. I did 3 nights in Chicago, split an AirBNB with a friend and ran me about $600 total for tickets to both shows, flight and room. For the 4 days if I include food, Uber and merch and everything else I spent a little over a thousand. Now I could have eaten cheaper, but why go to a place like Chicago just for the shows and not experience the city? I thought that was pretty cheap, but that was also a one-time thing. My wife wasn't too excited about me leaving her with a 2 and 4 year old and not being able to go with me. And I missed her not being there. If we were to do that together the cost would be doubled (assuming we get family to watch the kids for free). I don't think we could afford that trip together even if ticket prices stay the same, and I wouldn't even think about it if they went up.0 -
PJNB said:PJ_Soul said:mace1229 said:Gingerlou77 said:I find it amaxing how much people say it costs them! I did 8 shows this summer, biggest expense were tickets which i mistly buddied up on, granted, but i managed a week in Seattle for £600(flight and accommodation), a week in Europe for far far less and then a couple of overnighters, one in the airport, another on the sidewalk. Done! It really can be done on the cheap. And yes, i have kids and an averagely paid job....
Now the average person. I did 3 nights in Chicago, split an AirBNB with a friend and ran me about $600 total for tickets to both shows, flight and room. For the 4 days if I include food, Uber and merch and everything else I spent a little over a thousand. Now I could have eaten cheaper, but why go to a place like Chicago just for the shows and not experience the city? I thought that was pretty cheap, but that was also a one-time thing. My wife wasn't too excited about me leaving her with a 2 and 4 year old and not being able to go with me. And I missed her not being there. If we were to do that together the cost would be doubled (assuming we get family to watch the kids for free). I don't think we could afford that trip together even if ticket prices stay the same, and I wouldn't even think about it if they went up.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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