Worst Pearl Jam song ever....

No Coder

rummy said:

I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.

I've actually always liked I'm Open, but can understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea.

No Coder

Sleeping by Myself should never have been done by the band. It was fine as an EV song, but it was instantly my least favourite thing they've ever done.  

There are other songs that I skip regularly, but can still enjoy them when the mood suits. They are mainly the slower songs off the last 2 records, like The End, Future Days, Sirens. I like them, but have to be in the mood to listen to them. Some of these really should be EV solo songs. Sirens  at least has a full band feel to it.

I liked Can't Deny me when it came out, but heard it for the first time in a while a few days ago and am over it. There's a sound they have gone for on the faster/punkier songs in the last few years (Mind your Manners/Deny Me/ole ) that has very little groove or emotion to it for me.

vaggar99

rummy said:

I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.

seemed like having filler material to avoid the straight "10 song" album was a thing in those days.

buck502000

rummy said:

buck502000 said:

Let me sleep, it’s Christmas time.

Especially when it's performed in May (Toronto 2016) or August (Seattle 2018)!

mace1229

I actually like Mankind. Lyrics are nonsense, but they are still many worse songs. 

Gern Blansten

The End, Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe

/thread

rummy

Gern Blansten said:

The End, Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe

/thread

If you are going to include these four then might as well make it an even "six pack" and include Speed of Sound and Sleeping By Myself.

rummy

vaggar99 said:

rummy said:

I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.

seemed like having filler material to avoid the straight "10 song" album was a thing in those days.

I've always thought No Code would have been better if it had been trimmed down to 10 songs...leave Mankind and I'm Open (and maybe Lukin) as b-sides. I know....heresy!

You can't change history but how great would it have been to get a Who You Are and/or Hail, Hail EP with three or four additional tracks (also taking into account the original b-sides/non-album tracks)? I think these songs would have been more appreciated as non-album tracks.

Spiritual_Chaos

rummy said:

Gern Blansten said:

The End, Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe

/thread

If you are going to include these four then might as well make it an even "six pack" and include Speed of Sound and Sleeping By Myself.

Both SoS and SBM were great before the full band treatment. 

Id say remove Sirens and even Just Breathe and leave Future Days and The End in the Top. 

Jason P

I technically wouldn’t count I’m Open as a real song.  Just sounds like someone super high on weed having existential thoughts on the universe while farting around on a guitar in their living room.  I’ve been known to do it from time to time ....

HesCalledDyer

How can anyone think the lyrics to Mankind are nonsense?  Those words paint a great narrative picture of the way society behaves in the public eye.  And it was written in a time where likes, clicks, & reblogs weren't even a twinkle in Fuckerberg's eye.

Gern Blansten

HesCalledDyer said:

How can anyone think the lyrics to Mankind are nonsense?  Those words paint a great narrative picture of the way society behaves in the public eye.  And it was written in a time where likes, clicks, & reblogs weren't even a twinkle in Fuckerberg's eye.

agreed...or I'm Open....great tune

PJ_Soul

rummy said:

I'm a pretty big fan of No Code but "I'm Open" is pretty shocking.

I don't think it's their worst, but I really dislike it, because I just really dislike spoken word in general.

PJ_Soul

mace1229 said:

I actually like Mankind. Lyrics are nonsense, but they are still many worse songs. 

I dig it (and don't think the lyrics are nonsense).

Spiritual_Chaos

Mankind was one of the - ONLY - four songs picked by Pearl Jam to put up on youtube from the last tour. So it must be considered some kind of highlight:

https://youtu.be/A7RnkT-RiAo

iOnlyownMymind

Wow, I think I'm Open and Mankind are both great and interesting on No Code. I'd put both of them above a lot of the songs on the last couple albums.

rummy

iOnlyownMymind said:

Wow, I think I'm Open and Mankind are both great and interesting on No Code. I'd put both of them above a lot of the songs on the last couple albums.

Mankind? Yes. I'm Open? Only if it's live acoustic - and therefore no spoken word part. 
I think a lot of the songs on the last two albums (along with Ole and maybe CDM) are a given here. With this said, I still think "Pendulum" and "Getaway" are really good tunes and I'm still a sucker for "Unthought Known."

Chasing Footsteps

Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

In no particular order:
- Sirens
- Unemployable 
- Infallible
- Wishlist
- Cropduster
- Help Help

Gern Blansten

Chasing Footsteps said:

Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

In no particular order:
- Sirens
- Unemployable 
- Infallible
- Wishlist
- Cropduster
- Help Help

I agree with Sirens...the rest prove that you are insane

vaggar99

Gern Blansten said:

Chasing Footsteps said:

Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

In no particular order:
- Sirens
- Unemployable 
- Infallible
- Wishlist
- Cropduster
- Help Help

I agree with Sirens...the rest prove that you are insane

i don't get the absolute hate for Sirens.  its a good song.  perhaps a little cheesy on the studio recording, but when played live without all the Brendan Obrien overproduction, it sounds quite good.  much like all of LB.

Ledbetterman10

https://youtu.be/RPLxJXcGdE0

Gern Blansten

vaggar99 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Chasing Footsteps said:

Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

In no particular order:
- Sirens
- Unemployable 
- Infallible
- Wishlist
- Cropduster
- Help Help

I agree with Sirens...the rest prove that you are insane

i don't get the absolute hate for Sirens.  its a good song.  perhaps a little cheesy on the studio recording, but when played live without all the Brendan Obrien overproduction, it sounds quite good.  much like all of LB.

I'm glad you like it.  I think it appeals to a lot of people that favor country (not saying that is you) and also like Just Breathe, The End, Future Days, etc.

I just don't like it.  I don't like the simple lyrics that ooze with sap.  

mcgruff10

Chasing Footsteps said:

Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

In no particular order:
- Sirens
- Unemployable 
- Infallible
- Wishlist
- Cropduster
- Help Help

Solid list right there. (Although sirens and wishlist have grown in me, the rest are definitely bottom of the barrel.)

mcgruff10

Gern Blansten said:

Chasing Footsteps said:

Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

In no particular order:
- Sirens
- Unemployable 
- Infallible
- Wishlist
- Cropduster
- Help Help

I agree with Sirens...the rest prove that you are insane

They are all definitely show killers. 

iOnlyownMymind

rummy said:

iOnlyownMymind said:

Wow, I think I'm Open and Mankind are both great and interesting on No Code. I'd put both of them above a lot of the songs on the last couple albums.

Mankind? Yes. I'm Open? Only if it's live acoustic - and therefore no spoken word part. 
I think a lot of the songs on the last two albums (along with Ole and maybe CDM) are a given here. With this said, I still think "Pendulum" and "Getaway" are really good tunes and I'm still a sucker for "Unthought Known."

Yes, live I'm Open without the spoken word at Safeco was fun. Pendulum is the best song on Lightning Bolt imo and maybe the best on the last two albums. 

rummy

mcgruff10 said:

Chasing Footsteps said:

Not sure I’m qualified to answer “worst PJ song ever”, but I am going to list a few, IMO (and experience), show killers:

In no particular order:
- Sirens
- Unemployable 
- Infallible
- Wishlist
- Cropduster
- Help Help

Solid list right there. (Although sirens and wishlist have grown in me, the rest are definitely bottom of the barrel.)

I haven't witnessed "Wishlist" at a show since 1998 so I didn't realize is had a negative impact on a performance - but am not that surprised. I always thought it was a poor choice for a single when you have the likes of "In Hiding," "Faithfull," "Brain of J," and even "MFC."

lastexitlondon

Wishlist  bores me.

mcgruff10

lastexitlondon said:

Wishlist  bores me.

Yeah I can definitely see this song boring a lot of people.  

ten-vs-vitalogy

Come Back, a bad version of a Beatles song. Yes, the lyrics are beautiful but the song does nothing for me. 

pearljammr78

I love come back and infallible. Still hate mankind with a passion.