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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    edited July 2019
    Always picking and choosing what you want to respond to. Yeah Bundy standoff, "faux outrage." "Whateva" is right. 
    You threatened to not respond to my posts. I’m impressed with your will power.  :)
    No I stopped responding to that particular conversation because it was fucking ridiculous (You running away from the NRA thread where you said me and someone else laugh at dead children and then having the nerve to give me shit a day or two later for not using the search function to find out your Tom Brady/Donald Trump views). And I have made a point to not bother responding to your posts that are about the usual (Team Trump Treason, Mueller, etc.). But when you respond to me as you have here, I have to respond back. 

    Here's the rest of my last post...as I hit submit too soon and didn't finish editing: If you want to minimize their silence because you don't respect Rebel media (or whatever it's called), that's fine. But to say it was "an attack on a representation of what they consider evil" almost sounds like your justifying domestic terrorism. So what if they consider ICE evil? It's not. And even if it was, that's not a good reason to attack if you're an ANTIFA maniac. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Nice!  I saw them open for the Stones on the Steel Wheels tour, probably 89.  Funny that the rumor at the time, at least in Cleveland, was that the lead singer was Hendrix's son!  People were idiots.  
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Any chance that video is “doctored?” Regardless, you should be proud getting your news from such a reputable source. Nah, they ain’t got no agenda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
    Jesus you're unbelievable. Who cares what the source is or what Rebel Media is? Or even their agenda is. Okay so that wikipedia link shows them to be a far-right outfit in the Breitbart realm. Okay fine. Not a place I'd go for my news with regularity. But that's where google took me and that guy had the credentials to be walking those halls asking questions. All three of those women could have just said yes to his question and condemned the attack. But of course they didn't. And of course you're trying to make excuses for them. I get it though. Trump is awful. They are in direct opposition of Trump. So of course you're going to defend them. Whatever. 
    That source it such trash I won't even click on it to give them any views. That's how bad it is. 

    We have been dealing with Rebel media and Ezra Levant for years in Alberta (where it comes from), believe me, it is total garbage.

    Post a better source and I will check it out.

  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    edited July 2019
    dignin said:
    Any chance that video is “doctored?” Regardless, you should be proud getting your news from such a reputable source. Nah, they ain’t got no agenda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
    Jesus you're unbelievable. Who cares what the source is or what Rebel Media is? Or even their agenda is. Okay so that wikipedia link shows them to be a far-right outfit in the Breitbart realm. Okay fine. Not a place I'd go for my news with regularity. But that's where google took me and that guy had the credentials to be walking those halls asking questions. All three of those women could have just said yes to his question and condemned the attack. But of course they didn't. And of course you're trying to make excuses for them. I get it though. Trump is awful. They are in direct opposition of Trump. So of course you're going to defend them. Whatever. 
    That source it such trash I won't even click on it to give them any views. That's how bad it is. 

    We have been dealing with Rebel media and Ezra Levant for years in Alberta (where it comes from), believe me, it is total garbage.

    Post a better source and I will check it out.

    No I do believe ya. At this point, I  have to concede it's a crap source. "Canada's Breitbart" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm not so stubborn that I'm going to die on this mountain. So no mas, no mas. It was a crap source. I concede. 

    Still, if it was a reporter from a more respectable outfit, would she answer then? Maybe she'd say "I unequivocally condemn all acts of violence against a government building. And I am disgusted that the Seattle ANTIFA is making this man out to be some sort of martyr. That man could have done very serious harm to migrants that already suffering in ICE's Nazi lockup. ANTIFA is dangerous." She might say that. But probably not. 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:
    Any chance that video is “doctored?” Regardless, you should be proud getting your news from such a reputable source. Nah, they ain’t got no agenda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
    Jesus you're unbelievable. Who cares what the source is or what Rebel Media is? Or even their agenda is. Okay so that wikipedia link shows them to be a far-right outfit in the Breitbart realm. Okay fine. Not a place I'd go for my news with regularity. But that's where google took me and that guy had the credentials to be walking those halls asking questions. All three of those women could have just said yes to his question and condemned the attack. But of course they didn't. And of course you're trying to make excuses for them. I get it though. Trump is awful. They are in direct opposition of Trump. So of course you're going to defend them. Whatever. 
    That source it such trash I won't even click on it to give them any views. That's how bad it is. 

    We have been dealing with Rebel media and Ezra Levant for years in Alberta (where it comes from), believe me, it is total garbage.

    Post a better source and I will check it out.

    No I do believe ya. At this point, I  have to concede it's a crap source. "Canada's Breitbart" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm not so stubborn that I'm going to die on this mountain. So no mas, no mas. It was a crap source. I concede. 

    Still, if it was a reporter from a more respectable outfit, would she answer then? Maybe she'd say "I unequivocally condemn all acts of violence against a government building. And I am disgusted that the Seattle ANTIFA is making this man out to be some sort of martyr. That man could have done very serious harm to migrants that already suffering in ICE's Nazi lockup. ANTIFA is dangerous." She might say that. But probably not. 
    Yeah, I'm not trying to harp on you at all. You're an honest person here. Just wanted to share my experience with Rebel Media, not a legitimate trusted source.

    Is there a source about the initial incident that the "journalist" was asking about? Never heard about it.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    edited July 2019
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    Any chance that video is “doctored?” Regardless, you should be proud getting your news from such a reputable source. Nah, they ain’t got no agenda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
    Jesus you're unbelievable. Who cares what the source is or what Rebel Media is? Or even their agenda is. Okay so that wikipedia link shows them to be a far-right outfit in the Breitbart realm. Okay fine. Not a place I'd go for my news with regularity. But that's where google took me and that guy had the credentials to be walking those halls asking questions. All three of those women could have just said yes to his question and condemned the attack. But of course they didn't. And of course you're trying to make excuses for them. I get it though. Trump is awful. They are in direct opposition of Trump. So of course you're going to defend them. Whatever. 
    That source it such trash I won't even click on it to give them any views. That's how bad it is. 

    We have been dealing with Rebel media and Ezra Levant for years in Alberta (where it comes from), believe me, it is total garbage.

    Post a better source and I will check it out.

    No I do believe ya. At this point, I  have to concede it's a crap source. "Canada's Breitbart" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm not so stubborn that I'm going to die on this mountain. So no mas, no mas. It was a crap source. I concede. 

    Still, if it was a reporter from a more respectable outfit, would she answer then? Maybe she'd say "I unequivocally condemn all acts of violence against a government building. And I am disgusted that the Seattle ANTIFA is making this man out to be some sort of martyr. That man could have done very serious harm to migrants that already suffering in ICE's Nazi lockup. ANTIFA is dangerous." She might say that. But probably not. 
    Yeah, I'm not trying to harp on you at all. You're an honest person here. Just wanted to share my experience with Rebel Media, not a legitimate trusted source.

    Is there a source about the initial incident that the "journalist" was asking about? Never heard about it.
    I'm not sure but as I look back through this thread, and do a quick google search of this guy and seeing he worked at a white supremacist store, refers to himself as "Commie tantrum catalyst" (which Spiritual Chaos did point out), I wonder how the hell does someone like this even have this access to the  congresspeople? I dunno, I guess I just figured that only highest-credentialed people would be allowed to roam those halls where the congresspeople walk to meetings/sessions. And I thought it was a fair-enough question. AOC and Omar are "woke" far-leftists who may support ANTIFA (even if only in theory), so I was kinda interested to hear what they'd say. But in fairness to the squad, when you're making national headlines battling nose to nose with the president of the United States, it's hard to be expected to take the time to answer this guy's questions: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1136717164512129024/5pN_SL29_400x400.png
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    Any chance that video is “doctored?” Regardless, you should be proud getting your news from such a reputable source. Nah, they ain’t got no agenda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
    Jesus you're unbelievable. Who cares what the source is or what Rebel Media is? Or even their agenda is. Okay so that wikipedia link shows them to be a far-right outfit in the Breitbart realm. Okay fine. Not a place I'd go for my news with regularity. But that's where google took me and that guy had the credentials to be walking those halls asking questions. All three of those women could have just said yes to his question and condemned the attack. But of course they didn't. And of course you're trying to make excuses for them. I get it though. Trump is awful. They are in direct opposition of Trump. So of course you're going to defend them. Whatever. 
    That source it such trash I won't even click on it to give them any views. That's how bad it is. 

    We have been dealing with Rebel media and Ezra Levant for years in Alberta (where it comes from), believe me, it is total garbage.

    Post a better source and I will check it out.

    No I do believe ya. At this point, I  have to concede it's a crap source. "Canada's Breitbart" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm not so stubborn that I'm going to die on this mountain. So no mas, no mas. It was a crap source. I concede. 

    Still, if it was a reporter from a more respectable outfit, would she answer then? Maybe she'd say "I unequivocally condemn all acts of violence against a government building. And I am disgusted that the Seattle ANTIFA is making this man out to be some sort of martyr. That man could have done very serious harm to migrants that already suffering in ICE's Nazi lockup. ANTIFA is dangerous." She might say that. But probably not. 
    Yeah, I'm not trying to harp on you at all. You're an honest person here. Just wanted to share my experience with Rebel Media, not a legitimate trusted source.

    Is there a source about the initial incident that the "journalist" was asking about? Never heard about it.
    I'm not sure but as I look back through this thread, and do a quick google search of this guy and seeing he worked at a white supremacist store, refers to himself as "Commie tantrum catalyst" (which Spiritual Chaos did point out), I wonder how the hell does someone like this even have this access to the  congresspeople? I dunno, I guess I just figured that only highest-credentialed people would be allowed to roam those halls where the congresspeople walk to meetings/sessions. And I thought it was a fair-enough question. AOC and Omar are "woke" far-leftists who may support ANTIFA (even if only in theory), so I was kinda interested to hear what they'd say. But in fairness to the squad, when you're making national headlines battling nose to nose with the president of the United States, it's hard to be expected to take the time to answer this guy's questions: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1136717164512129024/5pN_SL29_400x400.png
    Jesus, that guy is the poster boy for white power.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,015
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    Any chance that video is “doctored?” Regardless, you should be proud getting your news from such a reputable source. Nah, they ain’t got no agenda.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
    Jesus you're unbelievable. Who cares what the source is or what Rebel Media is? Or even their agenda is. Okay so that wikipedia link shows them to be a far-right outfit in the Breitbart realm. Okay fine. Not a place I'd go for my news with regularity. But that's where google took me and that guy had the credentials to be walking those halls asking questions. All three of those women could have just said yes to his question and condemned the attack. But of course they didn't. And of course you're trying to make excuses for them. I get it though. Trump is awful. They are in direct opposition of Trump. So of course you're going to defend them. Whatever. 
    That source it such trash I won't even click on it to give them any views. That's how bad it is. 

    We have been dealing with Rebel media and Ezra Levant for years in Alberta (where it comes from), believe me, it is total garbage.

    Post a better source and I will check it out.

    No I do believe ya. At this point, I  have to concede it's a crap source. "Canada's Breitbart" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. I'm not so stubborn that I'm going to die on this mountain. So no mas, no mas. It was a crap source. I concede. 

    Still, if it was a reporter from a more respectable outfit, would she answer then? Maybe she'd say "I unequivocally condemn all acts of violence against a government building. And I am disgusted that the Seattle ANTIFA is making this man out to be some sort of martyr. That man could have done very serious harm to migrants that already suffering in ICE's Nazi lockup. ANTIFA is dangerous." She might say that. But probably not. 
    Yeah, I'm not trying to harp on you at all. You're an honest person here. Just wanted to share my experience with Rebel Media, not a legitimate trusted source.

    Is there a source about the initial incident that the "journalist" was asking about? Never heard about it.
    I'm not sure but as I look back through this thread, and do a quick google search of this guy and seeing he worked at a white supremacist store, refers to himself as "Commie tantrum catalyst" (which Spiritual Chaos did point out), I wonder how the hell does someone like this even have this access to the  congresspeople? I dunno, I guess I just figured that only highest-credentialed people would be allowed to roam those halls where the congresspeople walk to meetings/sessions. And I thought it was a fair-enough question. AOC and Omar are "woke" far-leftists who may support ANTIFA (even if only in theory), so I was kinda interested to hear what they'd say. But in fairness to the squad, when you're making national headlines battling nose to nose with the president of the United States, it's hard to be expected to take the time to answer this guy's questions: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1136717164512129024/5pN_SL29_400x400.png
    Jesus, that guy is the poster boy for white power.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Late to the party here because there was dinner to be had, but I’ve got to agree with dignin - I wouldn’t wipe my shoes on Rebel Media for fear they would just get dirtier. No way am I giving them the benefit of the doubt here. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,340
    Late to the party here because there was dinner to be had, but I’ve got to agree with dignin - I wouldn’t wipe my shoes on Rebel Media for fear they would just get dirtier. No way am I giving them the benefit of the doubt here. 
    Late too.  Questions not pointed at u directly, asking the group.

    1-Do you think for a second that "rebel media" is going to be given verbal credit on say Fox if they show the video?  

    2-I can picture this story getting HUGE and zero to none, background info gets talked about the source.

    3-Was anyone else singled out about the attacks?  Only these 4?  Any other law makers, Republicans?  That would be the other talking point.

    This was a well setup ambush but can't be ignored.  It's things like this that can ruin a politician.




  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    edited July 2019
    The thing is - people in he who are so adamant they should have legitimized a far right fringe alt-right muslim hating channel not only hate America. 

    But they also do so, so they can somehow put these women down. They must do something wrong. That must be the narrative.

    If the women would have stopped and said "no comments at this time" these same people on this board would have said:

    "How can they stop and answer, and legitimize a youtube channel like that one? This is what happens when these radial non-centrist people gets into power". 

    So yeah. Take it for what it is - a way to have these women be in the wrong. The reason for it being of less importance. As long as they are.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The thing is - people in he who are so adamant they should have legitimized a far right fringe alt-right muslim hating channel not only hate America. 

    But they also do so, so they can somehow put these women down. They must do something wrong. That must be the narrative.

    If the women would have stopped and said "no comments at this time" these same people on this board would have said:

    "How can they stop and answer, and legitimize a youtube channel like that one? This is what happens when these radial non-centrist people gets into power". 

    So yeah. Take it for what it is - a way to have these women be in the wrong. The reason for it being of less importance. As long as they are.
    You have a habit of completely inventing things that you believe others would say.  It's like "Straw Man for Dummies".    
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    mrussel1 said:
    The thing is - people in he who are so adamant they should have legitimized a far right fringe alt-right muslim hating channel not only hate America. 

    But they also do so, so they can somehow put these women down. They must do something wrong. That must be the narrative.

    If the women would have stopped and said "no comments at this time" these same people on this board would have said:

    "How can they stop and answer, and legitimize a youtube channel like that one? This is what happens when these radial non-centrist people gets into power". 

    So yeah. Take it for what it is - a way to have these women be in the wrong. The reason for it being of less importance. As long as they are.
    You have a habit of completely inventing things that you believe others would say.  It's like "Straw Man for Dummies".    
    Yes. Constructing a sentence, someone would say is inventing something. That is very smart of you.

    Smarter than being of the opinion these politicians should legitimize that neonazi store-working shithead.

    But you do you.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    The thing is - people in he who are so adamant they should have legitimized a far right fringe alt-right muslim hating channel not only hate America. 

    But they also do so, so they can somehow put these women down. They must do something wrong. That must be the narrative.

    If the women would have stopped and said "no comments at this time" these same people on this board would have said:

    "How can they stop and answer, and legitimize a youtube channel like that one? This is what happens when these radial non-centrist people gets into power". 

    So yeah. Take it for what it is - a way to have these women be in the wrong. The reason for it being of less importance. As long as they are.
    You have a habit of completely inventing things that you believe others would say.  It's like "Straw Man for Dummies".    
    Yes. Constructing a sentence, someone would say is inventing something. That is very smart of you.

    Smarter than being of the opinion these politicians should legitimize that neonazi store-working shithead.

    But you do you.
    "would say"... as if you have a clue of what someone would say.  Your omniscience from across the pond is so impressive.  It must be your deep obsession with our culture that allows you to correctly predict the forthcoming words from someone you've never met.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Pro tip, in English there's an important distinction between "might" and "would".  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,340
    mrussel1 said:
    Pro tip, in English there's an important distinction between "might" and "would".  
    That is in Greek too and French, Spanish, oh hell, all of the languages.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Pro tip, in English there's an important distinction between "might" and "would".  
    Yes. And I wrote "would" because that is what I meant. 

    Trying to put someone down and disparage them over english not being their first language? Also going with the "you are not american so why do you care/you have no right to an opinion" BS that @mcgruff10 has done before.

    What's next - asking me to go back to where I came from?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    Pro tip, in English there's an important distinction between "might" and "would".  
    Yes. And I wrote "would" because that is what I meant. 

    Trying to put someone down and disparage them over english not being their first language? Also going with the "you are not american so why do you care/you have no right to an opinion" BS that @mcgruff10 has done before.

    What's next - asking me to go back to where I came from?
    No,  stop pretending you know what people think and would say.   
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    edited July 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Pro tip, in English there's an important distinction between "might" and "would".  
    Yes. And I wrote "would" because that is what I meant. 

    Trying to put someone down and disparage them over english not being their first language? Also going with the "you are not american so why do you care/you have no right to an opinion" BS that @mcgruff10 has done before.

    What's next - asking me to go back to where I came from?
    No,  stop pretending you know what people think and would say.   
    I'm not pretending. I am certain enough to make a post about it.

    Now, go down to the south border or to the Fox News comments section and attack people for not being from the US, instead of attacking me or other users about it on here.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    i find it weird that a person from sweden seems to have the most posts about US politicians and politics.  i can't imagine under any circumstances posting this much about Swedish politicians or politics.