I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.
yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would.
I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.
yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would.
She's going to be panned no matter what she does - do you really think otherwise?
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I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.
yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would.
She's going to be panned no matter what she does - do you really think otherwise?
by the center and the right, yes, but the left? depends on the situation. she is under pretty intense scrutiny, no doubt. But this: I can't see how anyone, no matter how far left, can support it. the fact that someone mentioned Omar criticized her for it is pretty telling.
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
Doesn't matter. Lines need to be drawn somewhere. Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what. The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups. Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it. AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look.
And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
Doesn't matter. Lines need to be drawn somewhere. Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what. The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups. Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it. AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look.
And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.
Well you said zero reason so I was just looking for a non zero reason
Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person. Absolutely zero reason.
What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person. There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills. Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
Doesn't matter. Lines need to be drawn somewhere. Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what. The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups. Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it. AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look.
And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.
Well you said zero reason so I was just looking for a non zero reason
so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
I’d rather see elected officials being the example over movie stars on important matters.
so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
I’d rather see elected officials being the example over movie stars on important matters.
Yeah, but I never argued for celebrities to get it first, just for public figures to publicize when they do get it, and I specifically mentioned high ranking politicians.
I'm ok w AOC getting the shot. She can get out there and rally more people to do it.
That would have made sense to me if she had waited until her age group got it...but now she just seems like an elite self-righteous typical politician in my opinion. “I’m more important than you, so I am jumping the line” is all I get out of her actions.
I'm ok w AOC getting the shot. She can get out there and rally more people to do it.
That would have made sense to me if she had waited until her age group got it...but now she just seems like an elite self-righteous typical politician in my opinion. “I’m more important than you, so I am jumping the line” is all I get out of her actions.
If she comes across with that approach then she will get roasted.
I'm ok w AOC getting the shot. She can get out there and rally more people to do it.
That would have made sense to me if she had waited until her age group got it...but now she just seems like an elite self-righteous typical politician in my opinion. “I’m more important than you, so I am jumping the line” is all I get out of her actions.
If she comes across with that approach then she will get roasted.
so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
No where close to first. Except for a few key leaders (by position, nit specific people)
I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.
I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance.
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
Maybe Matt Getts will forgo his vaccination and let you have it instead? An act of charity? Raffle it off as a fund raiser for the repub party? Auction it off? Who’s in and what’s your highest bid?
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
huh? I don't understand the dictator comment
“No use for politicians,” “voting for or supporting a politician is morally bankrupt,” or whatever the expression was. They’re all the same seems to be the sentiment and they all suck. Nothing could be further from the truth. People have bought in on the mantra and seemingly, would prefer a theocracy, with a shit bag leader like Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat instead. What color handbag did AOC have with her when she was inoculated and did it match her shoes, and were they flats or heels?
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
huh? I don't understand the dictator comment
I don’t understand the implications of sexism and racism.
I literally screamed at my TV when I saw pence getting his shot.
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
huh? I don't understand the dictator comment
I don’t understand the implications of sexism and racism.
I literally screamed at my TV when I saw pence getting his shot.
Why? I think the President, VP and House leader should have it regardless of their age. After that, everyone else falls into the citizenry.
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
huh? I don't understand the dictator comment
“No use for politicians,” “voting for or supporting a politician is morally bankrupt,” or whatever the expression was. They’re all the same seems to be the sentiment and they all suck. Nothing could be further from the truth. People have bought in on the mantra and seemingly, would prefer a theocracy, with a shit bag leader like Tricky Team Trump TREASON Tax Cheat instead. What color handbag did AOC have with her when she was inoculated and did it match her shoes, and were they flats or heels?
I don't remember that. But I don't think anyone that isn't in the direct line of the president should be ahead of a citizen, other than it being related to age or health risk (which should be the same for a normal citizen). I get the concept of leading by example, but not sure AOC fills that bill. The Black community is the most likely to not take the vaccine (other than crazy Bill Gates conspiracists) because of the rightful distrust they have from the history of Blacks being used like fodder for experiments. So having someone like Obama take it, or other leaders in the Black community would be really important.
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
huh? I don't understand the dictator comment
I don’t understand the implications of sexism and racism.
I literally screamed at my TV when I saw pence getting his shot.
Why? I think the President, VP and House leader should have it regardless of their age. After that, everyone else falls into the citizenry.
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
huh? I don't understand the dictator comment
I don’t understand the implications of sexism and racism.
I literally screamed at my TV when I saw pence getting his shot.
Why? I think the President, VP and House leader should have it regardless of their age. After that, everyone else falls into the citizenry.
True. But still...pence...he doesn’t deserve it.
His leadership of the Coronavirus Task Force was brilliant.
Whaaaaaa, lets go full on dictatorship because a member of Congress got her vaccination. A female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female member of Congress, no less. Oh wait? A Hispanic, female, radical leftist new green deal threat to democracy, dem, no less. Whaaaaaaaaaaa.
Seems Tricky Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat’s vision for ‘Murica and freedumb is alive and well.
huh? I don't understand the dictator comment
I don’t understand the implications of sexism and racism.
I literally screamed at my TV when I saw pence getting his shot.
Why? I think the President, VP and House leader should have it regardless of their age. After that, everyone else falls into the citizenry.
If AOC were part of House leadership, it would be warranted. But in AOCs case, no way. It proves the land of the free is a joke. The next few months will be an endless parade of the wealthy and entitled jumping the vaccine line.
Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
If you're talking about the last line. It's already been pounced upon and widely taken out of context by both social and mainstream media to keep driving in that wedge.
Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself.
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Everyone give a read so we can discuss what she said.
Just the facts: She was referring to the disembodied voice that belonged to the officer, not the officer himself.
But who's going to click on/be outraged by that?