I think adding 'State of Love and Trust' and 'Breath' to 'Ten' would improve it more.
wondering when someone was gonna say that. better than alone for sure and as good as wash.
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I am glad they didnt make it. They wouldnt be what they are Two of the Greatest B- sides ever. First you had 10 then Alone,Wash, Dirty Frank, as B side singles. Great music just kept on coming.
I dont listen to Ten itself much any more. But they are still some of my favorite songs, and the songs from Ten on early boots are the only ones
which still give me Chills.
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i wouldn't change Ten's tracklisting at all, even though Alone and State are awesome songs. However, i agree that Ten is sounding a little dated. The best way to enjoy it these days is to burn a live version of it using the same tracklisting, taking the songs from the bootlegs. The difference in energy and performance is huge (although you have to make sure you get a version of Black where Eddie holds the note at the end for ages, and make sure you're careful with Even Flow cos Mike's solos can be a bit hit and miss imo)
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Ten will go down as one of the seminal releases of the early 90's and, IMO, is as relevant today as it was then. It's already been mentioned that the album is all about emotion, which will always enable fans (new or old) to empathise with it.
I absolutely love this album and for what it stands for. After all, it was Ten that brought PJ into my life.
Ten will go down as one of the seminal releases of the early 90's and, IMO, is as relevant today as it was then. It's already been mentioned that the album is all about emotion, which will always enable fans (new or old) to empathise with it.
I absolutely love this album and for what it stands for. After all, it was Ten that brought PJ into my life.
Not forgetting the fact Q Magazine (UK music mag) has stated that woldwide sales of 12m - Nevermind sold 10m as reported in May 2006.
I have a copy of the original UK release but there is another with Wash, Dirty Frank and Alive (Live), cant bring myself to have 2 copies of ten. I have most of the Vinyl releases on single (12") anyway and they are on there.
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I find that most of their albums are like that, and that is what I love. Their albums all have songs that relate. Like TEN is about abuse, and the newest is kinda speaking out about war and society as a whole.
That's the way I see it anyways.
The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
State of Love and Footsteps are 2 of my top 10 and they missed the album, how and why I don't know but they are awesome songs
another reason many of us don't listen to Ten anymore is because the damn thing is worn out. I was in HS had it on tape (yes it was that long ago) and am now on my third CD.
You listen to something a million times over and over and it loses a bit of its luster, but let's not get crazy here. Ten is the cream of the crop. Not only does it have the most hits but some of the most emotional songs they've ever written.
I dare you to find 4 songs with more heart, grit, and emotion than Black, Porch, Release, and Alive on any one album of PJ.
better yet, find a group of 4 songs that are better than those...I double shit dare you
most hits, but at the same time PJ does not release many songs for radio play. They can't just buy a CD and play anything off of it....they must have permission. This was one of the few ways that PJ could stay "underground"
The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
I find that most of their albums are like that, and that is what I love. Their albums all have songs that relate. Like TEN is about abuse, and the newest is kinda speaking out about war and society as a whole.
That's the way I see it anyways.
oh nonono that's not how i see it at all.
Ten's sound (the actual music mostly) is very much the same sound.
But the rest of the albums are so diverse!
Keeping in with a general feel is something they've always done, but that's not speaking of being one-dimensional.
This is an interesting question, I love Wash and would love to hear them playing it live. It definately fits well after Release as a nice come down from 'Ten' which is still a phenomenal album in my eyes. I have been listening to it since its release, and went off it for about 4 years and would listen mainly to Yield and Vs., but I have rediscovered my love for the album that is so plush, musically that it has a rawness, complemented by seriously excellent melodic songs. The beginning and ends are fantastic bookends to the album so I do not think that any songs would add to it.
Everyone in this thread seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet a la Yield and Vitalogy, but I am very surprised that more of you guys don't dig 'Binaural' so much, which is musically up there with other more modern rock albums such as Radiohead's 'Kid A'. It takes you on a cosmic journey and is truly momentous in its delivery.
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Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
this is very well said!! great explanation of vitalogy... it does have a darker vibe about it
But Jemms page is awesome. Youtube is one of the best websites I've seen in a long time.
Jemms do you have the actual MTV unplugged set recorded. I've been looking for that for a while. Have fun seeing them in Aussie land, I live in Orlando, Florida but flew to Pittsburg, Pennsylvania to see them because they wont be in the southern US until after they get done with you guys.
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I dont listen to Ten itself much any more. But they are still some of my favorite songs, and the songs from Ten on early boots are the only ones
which still give me Chills.
04/11/2006 -Jake & Lily 2 new PJ Fans Born
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
I absolutely love this album and for what it stands for. After all, it was Ten that brought PJ into my life.
Not forgetting the fact Q Magazine (UK music mag) has stated that woldwide sales of 12m - Nevermind sold 10m as reported in May 2006.
I have a copy of the original UK release but there is another with Wash, Dirty Frank and Alive (Live), cant bring myself to have 2 copies of ten. I have most of the Vinyl releases on single (12") anyway and they are on there.
Manchester, June 2024 - TBC £160!!!
"Don't sweat the petty things, don't pet the sweaty things"
I find that most of their albums are like that, and that is what I love. Their albums all have songs that relate. Like TEN is about abuse, and the newest is kinda speaking out about war and society as a whole.
That's the way I see it anyways.
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
most hits, but at the same time PJ does not release many songs for radio play. They can't just buy a CD and play anything off of it....they must have permission. This was one of the few ways that PJ could stay "underground"
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
all4
Ten's sound (the actual music mostly) is very much the same sound.
But the rest of the albums are so diverse!
Keeping in with a general feel is something they've always done, but that's not speaking of being one-dimensional.
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i see what you are saying....."music" wise.....not lyric / subject wise.....i see that. Very true, but i still love 10
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
Everyone in this thread seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet a la Yield and Vitalogy, but I am very surprised that more of you guys don't dig 'Binaural' so much, which is musically up there with other more modern rock albums such as Radiohead's 'Kid A'. It takes you on a cosmic journey and is truly momentous in its delivery.
ps Sunny day, too much energy? Vs. every time!
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
But Jemms page is awesome. Youtube is one of the best websites I've seen in a long time.
Jemms do you have the actual MTV unplugged set recorded. I've been looking for that for a while. Have fun seeing them in Aussie land, I live in Orlando, Florida but flew to Pittsburg, Pennsylvania to see them because they wont be in the southern US until after they get done with you guys.
Peace
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2000-08-12 Tampa FL
2003-04-13 Tampa FL
2004-10-08 Kissimmee FL
2006-06-23 Pittsburgh PA
2008-06-14 Manchester TN, Bonnaroo
2011-09-03/04 East Troy, WI
2013-10-12 Buffalo, NY
2013-10-15 Wooster, MA