Mental illness caused him to cut off his arm? I would think that is psychotic but maybe that is part of mental illness?
I’m not sure what you are getting at. Psychosis is a state involving symptoms such as delusions or hallucinations. Psychosis can be part of bipolar disorder as well as lots of other mental illnesses. It’s a syndrome, not a diagnosis on its own.
What I'm getting at is if you choose to take a skillsaw to your own arm to cut it off that would be "psychotic" and apparently a cause of that is mental illness.
Who knew?
WTF else would make you cut your arm off?
I wasn't aware that being psycho was a symptom of MA.. I thought it was in a league of it's own.
A really good hallucinogenic could make you cut an appendage off too.
How are you using the word “psycho”? Doesn’t seem like you are using it in the medical sense.
Psycho as in short for psychotic.
Like njnancy says “psycho” is just a slang term.
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Reminds me of the conversation my family had last Christmas (because we're a bit weird) about whether or not we'd agree to get genital herpes for $10 million.
WTF?
Yeah, we lack filters, lol.
Well don't leave us hanging, would you??
I would, no hesitation. Financial security for my son's entire life... that's a no-brainer for me. Still though, eeeeewwww.
I said absolutely yes. That shit isn't curable, but it's treatable, lol. I think I got a psycho-socio-economic lesson that day though. My bro-in-law is totally rich, so he and my sister said they wouldn't even take it for $100 million.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Reminds me of the conversation my family had last Christmas (because we're a bit weird) about whether or not we'd agree to get genital herpes for $10 million.
So, who said yes?
Edit: just realized that this sounds like I’m offering! Not what I meant.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Yes there are. Some people have terrible breakouts, others not so much, and some barely at all, and treatment can be much more effective for some than for others. Also, I have an ex-boyfriend who was a herpes medical researcher, and he told me that they have a cure for it all figured out, but the pharmaceutical companies make too much from just treating a life long disease, so the cure has never been developed for the public. Of course, I'm sure this isn't surprising to any of you.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Yes there are. Some people have terrible breakouts, others not so much, and some barely at all, and treatment can be much more effective for some than for others. Also, I have an ex-boyfriend who was a herpes medical researcher, and he told me that they have a cure for it all figured out, but the pharmaceutical companies make too much from just treating a life long disease, so the cure has never been developed for the public. Of course, I'm sure this isn't surprising to any of you.
The only thing surprising is that they put the research into it in the first place if they make that much money on the treatments.
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Yes there are. Some people have terrible breakouts, others not so much, and some barely at all, and treatment can be much more effective for some than for others. Also, I have an ex-boyfriend who was a herpes medical researcher, and he told me that they have a cure for it all figured out, but the pharmaceutical companies make too much from just treating a life long disease, so the cure has never been developed for the public. Of course, I'm sure this isn't surprising to any of you.
The only thing surprising is that they put the research into it in the first place if they make that much money on the treatments.
Scientific researchers often actually have a lot of freedom, especially those who do research at a university.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Sabsolutely, in the same way that some people get the flu worse than others, or acne, or coughs, or joint problems, etc... Some will be little effected, some will suffer horribly. Some very, very few will even die!
What a fun thread!! Liters of blood, ruptured bladders, and Faustian STD pacts wrapped up in a story about a famous man who cut off his own hand. It's like a movie written by the Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarrantino on a peyote retreat.
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Yes there are. Some people have terrible breakouts, others not so much, and some barely at all, and treatment can be much more effective for some than for others. Also, I have an ex-boyfriend who was a herpes medical researcher, and he told me that they have a cure for it all figured out, but the pharmaceutical companies make too much from just treating a life long disease, so the cure has never been developed for the public. Of course, I'm sure this isn't surprising to any of you.
The only thing surprising is that they put the research into it in the first place if they make that much money on the treatments.
This whole thing makes me think of Future Man on Hulu where the cure for herpes ends up leading to the apocalypse!
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Sabsolutely, in the same way that some people get the flu worse than others, or acne, or coughs, or joint problems, etc... Some will be little effected, some will suffer horribly. Some very, very few will even die!
What a fun thread!! Liters of blood, ruptured bladders, and Faustian STD pacts wrapped up in a story about a famous man who cut off his own hand. It's like a movie written by the Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarrantino on a peyote retreat.
Yeah, it's taken some nice turns!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Sabsolutely, in the same way that some people get the flu worse than others, or acne, or coughs, or joint problems, etc... Some will be little effected, some will suffer horribly. Some very, very few will even die!
What a fun thread!! Liters of blood, ruptured bladders, and Faustian STD pacts wrapped up in a story about a famous man who cut off his own hand. It's like a movie written by the Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarrantino on a peyote retreat.
Yeah, it's taken some nice turns!
So I would take the 10million and go find that x boyfriend of yours for the cure.
It sounds plausible but whom is giving me the $10,000,000?!?
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Yes there are. Some people have terrible breakouts, others not so much, and some barely at all, and treatment can be much more effective for some than for others. Also, I have an ex-boyfriend who was a herpes medical researcher, and he told me that they have a cure for it all figured out, but the pharmaceutical companies make too much from just treating a life long disease, so the cure has never been developed for the public. Of course, I'm sure this isn't surprising to any of you.
The only thing surprising is that they put the research into it in the first place if they make that much money on the treatments.
Scientific researchers often actually have a lot of freedom, especially those who do research at a university.
Thats true. I have a degree in the science field so I've known a lot of researchers. I just assumed it was a pharm company that developed it and decided it wasn't worth it and either guarded the secret or patented it so no one else could use it. But if it was a university or independent researcher here's what I don't get. They would want to publish the results for their name and career. Some company that is currently not making money off the treatments would inevitably buy it and patent it and basically be the only . Unless that was already done and patented by one of the larger companies to prevent the use of it.
Makes you feel sorry for all those who did it for free, coulda had $10M.
I know a girl (in my wife's family) who has it. it ain't no picnic.
Is there different degrees of herpes?
Sabsolutely, in the same way that some people get the flu worse than others, or acne, or coughs, or joint problems, etc... Some will be little effected, some will suffer horribly. Some very, very few will even die!
What a fun thread!! Liters of blood, ruptured bladders, and Faustian STD pacts wrapped up in a story about a famous man who cut off his own hand. It's like a movie written by the Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarrantino on a peyote retreat.
Yeah, it's taken some nice turns!
So I would take the 10million and go find that x boyfriend of yours for the cure.
It sounds plausible but whom is giving me the $10,000,000?!?
Lol, that's what I thought, but then I remembered he actually ended up becoming a psychiatrist, so I really wouldn't want to bring this to him anymore.
I figure the herpes medicine makers could supply the payout? We really didn't get into that part, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
I'm just telling you what an expert on the subject told me, and that was back in the 90s.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
If there is a cure and it is known, how the hell in good conscience or for the well being of humans, would you bury the cure?!?
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
If there is a cure and it is known, how the hell in good conscience or for the well being of humans, would you bury the cure?!?
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
Man I really hope that's untrue...
Thread integrity is gone now, lol.
I'm under the informed impression that this is at least halfway to being standard operating procedure when it comes to diseases that are generally treatable. I actually thought everyone knew this, and that's why everyone hates the pharmaceutical industry so much. They aren't just bad because they overprice things. There is actually even genuine concern that cancer cures will be hidden from the public as well. I personally don't think that, but I understand why some think that. I like to think that they at least wouldn't do this when it comes to curing very deadly diseases.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
I'm just telling you what an expert on the subject told me, and that was back in the 90s.
I know, but myths and legends exist even in the highest intellectual circles. I've heard surgeons and anesthesiologists talk about scenarios, that, while plausible, surely never happened to anyone they know even in a 6 degrees to Bacon kind of way...such as a patient with a femoral pick line hooked up to suction and completely exsanguinated in seconds. Or a surgeon with a fatal thoracic puncture from a large closing suture.
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
I'm just telling you what an expert on the subject told me, and that was back in the 90s.
I know, but myths and legends exist even in the highest intellectual circles. I've heard surgeons and anesthesiologists talk about scenarios, that, while plausible, surely never happened to anyone they know even in a 6 degrees to Bacon kind of way...such as a patient with a femoral pick line hooked up to suction and completely exsanguinated in seconds. Or a surgeon with a fatal thoracic puncture from a large closing suture.
It wasn't a myth or legend. It was first hand knowledge being conveyed to me. He was in a position to know this directly. Again, yes, I'm just passing it along, but I feel comfortable with saying he wasn't making shit up. And remember he was talking about an actual cure, not a vaccine, which is the really lucrative one that they very much want to develop but are having trouble with. Essentially, they are not developing the cure so that they can keep working to develop a vaccine. So the expert said. I know shit about shit when it comes to herpes, luckily.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
If there is a cure and it is known, how the hell in good conscience or for the well being of humans, would you bury the cure?!?
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
Man I really hope that's untrue...
Thread integrity is gone now, lol.
Herpes encephalitis is serious and can cause significant mental health issues.
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I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
If there is a cure and it is known, how the hell in good conscience or for the well being of humans, would you bury the cure?!?
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
Man I really hope that's untrue...
Thread integrity is gone now, lol.
Herpes encephalitis is serious and can cause significant mental health issues.
Thread integrity back.
Yes, in rare cases it is deadly, that's true. Let's assume we're talking the non-deadly kind in exchange for the $10M, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
If there is a cure and it is known, how the hell in good conscience or for the well being of humans, would you bury the cure?!?
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
Man I really hope that's untrue...
Thread integrity is gone now, lol.
Herpes encephalitis is serious and can cause significant mental health issues.
Thread integrity back.
Yes, in rare cases it is deadly, that's true. Let's assume we're talking the non-deadly kind in exchange for the $10M, lol.
A fever sore is a form of herpes, so it runs the gamut.
Is there a specified delivery person in your family's question, Ali? Or do you just happen upon the genital herpes. I care more about whose giving me herpes than whose giving me the money. I'll take the money from anyone.
Thread integrity - I'm hoping that @Jason P is searching for that 20 year old article.
I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
If there is a cure and it is known, how the hell in good conscience or for the well being of humans, would you bury the cure?!?
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
Man I really hope that's untrue...
Thread integrity is gone now, lol.
Herpes encephalitis is serious and can cause significant mental health issues.
Thread integrity back.
Yes, in rare cases it is deadly, that's true. Let's assume we're talking the non-deadly kind in exchange for the $10M, lol.
A fever sore is a form of herpes, so it runs the gamut.
Is there a specified delivery person in your family's question, Ali? Or do you just happen upon the genital herpes. I care more about whose giving me herpes than whose giving me the money. I'll take the money from anyone.
Oh sure. We were specifically talking genital herpes.
No, we didn't specify how we got it, but we didn't assume the deal came with screwing a diseased person, haha .. Although I'm pretty sure we started talking about it because we started off discussing what we'd do in an indecent proposal scenario, but the payment would be massive instead of a paltry $1M. I think we went with $100M or $200M... My sister said yes to that one immediately. Not that I don't understand... I think it would be crazy to turn that down! I'd be pissed if my partner refused that, not if he took the offer!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Mental illness caused him to cut off his arm? I would think that is psychotic but maybe that is part of mental illness?
I’m not sure what you are getting at. Psychosis is a state involving symptoms such as delusions or hallucinations. Psychosis can be part of bipolar disorder as well as lots of other mental illnesses. It’s a syndrome, not a diagnosis on its own.
What I'm getting at is if you choose to take a skillsaw to your own arm to cut it off that would be "psychotic" and apparently a cause of that is mental illness.
Who knew?
WTF else would make you cut your arm off?
I wasn't aware that being psycho was a symptom of MA.. I thought it was in a league of it's own.
A really good hallucinogenic could make you cut an appendage off too.
How are you using the word “psycho”? Doesn’t seem like you are using it in the medical sense.
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Mental illness caused him to cut off his arm? I would think that is psychotic but maybe that is part of mental illness?
I’m not sure what you are getting at. Psychosis is a state involving symptoms such as delusions or hallucinations. Psychosis can be part of bipolar disorder as well as lots of other mental illnesses. It’s a syndrome, not a diagnosis on its own.
What I'm getting at is if you choose to take a skillsaw to your own arm to cut it off that would be "psychotic" and apparently a cause of that is mental illness.
Who knew?
WTF else would make you cut your arm off?
I wasn't aware that being psycho was a symptom of MA.. I thought it was in a league of it's own.
A really good hallucinogenic could make you cut an appendage off too.
How are you using the word “psycho”? Doesn’t seem like you are using it in the medical sense.
Psycho as in short for psychotic.
reads to me as psychopathic. huge difference.
Ah.
Yes, psychopathy is very different than psychosis.
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I'm dubious of the claim that there's a cure known but undeveloped, and the reason is that not all forms of herpes are profitable to treat. Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
If there is a cure and it is known, how the hell in good conscience or for the well being of humans, would you bury the cure?!?
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
Man I really hope that's untrue...
Thread integrity is gone now, lol.
Herpes encephalitis is serious and can cause significant mental health issues.
Thread integrity back.
Yes, in rare cases it is deadly, that's true. Let's assume we're talking the non-deadly kind in exchange for the $10M, lol.
I assumed so. Only added this to circle back to mental illness.
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Some will be little effected, some will suffer horribly.
Some very, very few will even die!
What a fun thread!!
Liters of blood, ruptured bladders, and Faustian STD pacts wrapped up in a story about a famous man who cut off his own hand.
It's like a movie written by the Coen Brothers and Quentin Tarrantino on a peyote retreat.
It sounds plausible but whom is giving me the $10,000,000?!?
I just assumed it was a pharm company that developed it and decided it wasn't worth it and either guarded the secret or patented it so no one else could use it.
But if it was a university or independent researcher here's what I don't get. They would want to publish the results for their name and career. Some company that is currently not making money off the treatments would inevitably buy it and patent it and basically be the only . Unless that was already done and patented by one of the larger companies to prevent the use of it.
Then again, eradicating it from the nervous system would be a monumental task, something that would require some crazy form of targeted treatment. That kind of treatment is highly experimental and expensive. Maybe there is a potential treatment known, maybe it is something like gene therapy, which often can only be done successfully by a handful of people/facilities in the world.
Having a cure for a known disease is the most unethical thing I've ever heard of.
Man I really hope that's untrue...
Thread integrity is gone now, lol.
I've heard surgeons and anesthesiologists talk about scenarios, that, while plausible, surely never happened to anyone they know even in a 6 degrees to Bacon kind of way...such as a patient with a femoral pick line hooked up to suction and completely exsanguinated in seconds. Or a surgeon with a fatal thoracic puncture from a large closing suture.
Thread integrity back.
Is there a specified delivery person in your family's question, Ali? Or do you just happen upon the genital herpes. I care more about whose giving me herpes than whose giving me the money. I'll take the money from anyone.
Thread integrity - I'm hoping that @Jason P is searching for that 20 year old article.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Yes, psychopathy is very different than psychosis.