People realize social media doesn't represent reality and is generally littered with fake accounts and bots, right?
How many of Trumps followers were verified as fake?
It does though. It really does. Trump's election and everything thats followed and now this MAGAbomber is the final proof.
Unfortunately, I think you're right. I need to look no further than my own aunts, uncles and cousins to confirm these are the "others" on this landlocked island. I know there are still a lot of good people out there, but now is the time they need to step up and start condemning the words and acts of this terrible person who is our president. Fight for your fucking party!
People realize social media doesn't represent reality and is generally littered with fake accounts and bots, right?
How many of Trumps followers were verified as fake?
Elitist.
Can you stop? What is the point of your stupid comment? Let it fucking go!
Oh the hypocrisy around these parts is thick. Can’t you see? I’m being bullied.
Pretty sure I'm not following around other posters and trying to agitate them by throwing their own words back at them when it has nothing to do with a discussion.
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
People realize social media doesn't represent reality and is generally littered with fake accounts and bots, right?
How many of Trumps followers were verified as fake?
Elitist.
Can you stop? What is the point of your stupid comment? Let it fucking go!
Oh the hypocrisy around these parts is thick. Can’t you see? I’m being bullied.
Pretty sure I'm not following around other posters and trying to agitate them by throwing their own words back at them when it has nothing to do with a discussion.
Last time I checked, any member is allowed to post. As for following around? Maybe I’m being followed and having my posts accused of being bullying, stifling debate or being accused of being an elitist? And maybe the poster making the accusations is doing it as well. I just call it like I see it.
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
Keep in mind that the troll-in-chief has to share the blame for this with every single supporter, believer, and advisor. They are all complicit.
People realize social media doesn't represent reality and is generally littered with fake accounts and bots, right?
How many of Trumps followers were verified as fake?
Elitist.
Can you stop? What is the point of your stupid comment? Let it fucking go!
Oh the hypocrisy around these parts is thick. Can’t you see? I’m being bullied.
Pretty sure I'm not following around other posters and trying to agitate them by throwing their own words back at them when it has nothing to do with a discussion.
Last time I checked, any member is allowed to post. As for following around? Maybe I’m being followed and having my posts accused of being bullying, stifling debate or being accused of being an elitist? And maybe the poster making the accusations is doing it as well. I just call it like I see it.
Yep, we have all been reading the back and forth and this is one of those rare instances where I am comfortable saying "both sides" aren't handling it in the best way. You make some great posts around here, but the one I responded to isn't one of them.
People realize social media doesn't represent reality and is generally littered with fake accounts and bots, right?
How many of Trumps followers were verified as fake?
Elitist.
Can you stop? What is the point of your stupid comment? Let it fucking go!
Oh the hypocrisy around these parts is thick. Can’t you see? I’m being bullied.
Pretty sure I'm not following around other posters and trying to agitate them by throwing their own words back at them when it has nothing to do with a discussion.
Last time I checked, any member is allowed to post. As for following around? Maybe I’m being followed and having my posts accused of being bullying, stifling debate or being accused of being an elitist? And maybe the poster making the accusations is doing it as well. I just call it like I see it.
Yep, we have all been reading the back and forth and this is one of those rare instances where I am comfortable saying "both sides" aren't handling it in the best way. You make some great posts around here, but the one I responded to isn't one of them.
I think that applies to just about everyone on here who posts.
Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
Keep in mind that the troll-in-chief has to share the blame for this with every single supporter, believer, and advisor. They are all complicit.
The cowardice of those in power is disgusting. There are Republicans who are outraged at what has happened. But the alt right with their false flag bullshit, which the President implied in his tweet today about the 'bombs' interrupting how well voting was going - he was told yesterday who was arrested and what his persuasion is. That is simply irresponsible. There will never be any Presidential call for everyone to step back and take a breath and be civil in our debate because he is the one who is stirring the toxic pot of stew that causes nut jobs to try to assassinate people.
Republicans in power need to find their moral compass and condemn the toxic environment that has been caused by Trump. How is this President allowed to get away with so much crap. The bar has been lowered so far that those in power are swimming in the sea of toxicity with Trump. They are complicit.
Most Republicans are not condoning this and in the news that I consume which is varied and I will not give a fucking list of what I consume, there is a definite need for someone to show strength to power and condemn not only the bomber but the President's behavior.
His van is Trump's twitter feed. And if someone wants to go the false flag route - this guy has a timeline, he was not created by liberals. It is offensive. This person wanted to kill people. Wake up!
Guessing the political preference, race or even gender of the bomber correctly really is about the stupidest thing anyone could be discussing right now. It doesn't matter. He doesn't represent any of those groups. Is there a men's group of the US that has disowned this POS yet? How we correct this type of crap is what needs to be focused on and our current POtuS needs to be heavily hammered on for his role in advocating for the divisive and violent response to liberals and dems.
Its not about him, its about the leaders of his political beliefs (as he is clearly a maga man) and their inability to grasp that everyone can hear their words of hatred, even the crazy people. Its not just trump, they used words of personal hatred against obama in 2008.
This is the EXACT reason nobody, especially elected leaders, should vilify any group of people.
To make derogatory comments about liberals, calling them socialists, calling their leader a Kenyan, is playing with fire. Not because it hurts obamas feeling, but because of the deep hatred it sows republican brains.
This is not the same as Basket of deplorables because that was an isolated incident and not drummed up by a propaganda cable network and an entire group of people year after year. Hilary does not and never did speak for me or the liberal community
Theres a reason a mama tells her son not to play with matches. Not to yell fire in a theatre.
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
Keep in mind that the troll-in-chief has to share the blame for this with every single supporter, believer, and advisor. They are all complicit.
The cowardice of those in power is disgusting. There are Republicans who are outraged at what has happened. But the alt right with their false flag bullshit, which the President implied in his tweet today about the 'bombs' interrupting how well voting was going - he was told yesterday who was arrested and what his persuasion is. That is simply irresponsible. There will never be any Presidential call for everyone to step back and take a breath and be civil in our debate because he is the one who is stirring the toxic pot of stew that causes nut jobs to try to assassinate people.
Republicans in power need to find their moral compass and condemn the toxic environment that has been caused by Trump. How is this President allowed to get away with so much crap. The bar has been lowered so far that those in power are swimming in the sea of toxicity with Trump. They are complicit.
**Most Republicans are not condoning this** and in the news that I consume which is varied and I will not give a fucking list of what I consume, there is a definite need for someone to show strength to power and condemn not only the bomber but the President's behavior.
His van is Trump's twitter feed. And if someone wants to go the false flag route - this guy has a timeline, he was not created by liberals. It is offensive. This person wanted to kill people. Wake up!
Its irrelevant what the "nice republicans" are saying. They knew trump was using hatred to divide america and build loyalty in his base and they did not speak up in protest.
We vote to have the best people represent/protect us all and this baffoon has failed miserably the only one's that think he's doing a great job are the people like the bomb maker ....
Guessing the political preference, race or even gender of the bomber correctly really is about the stupidest thing anyone could be discussing right now. It doesn't matter. He doesn't represent any of those groups. Is there a men's group of the US that has disowned this POS yet? How we correct this type of crap is what needs to be focused on and our current POtuS needs to be heavily hammered on for his role in advocating for the divisive and violent response to liberals and dems.
Its not about him, its about the leaders of his political beliefs (as he is clearly a maga man) and their inability to grasp that everyone can hear their words of hatred, even the crazy people. Its not just trump, they used words of personal hatred against obama in 2008.
This is the EXACT reason nobody, especially elected leaders, should vilify any group of people.
To make derogatory comments about liberals, calling them socialists, calling their leader a Kenyan, is playing with fire. Not because it hurts obamas feeling, but because of the deep hatred it sows republican brains.
This is not the same as Basket of deplorables because that was an isolated incident and not drummed up by a propaganda cable network and an entire group of people year after year. Hilary does not and never did speak for me or the liberal community
Theres a reason a mama tells her son not to play with matches. Not to yell fire in a theatre.
Its stunning you dont see this.
We're in agreement. I guess I'm not conveying my message very clear here.
Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
Yeah thanks for this. I’m just tying to say (and I need to do it more too), let’s stop jumping to conclusions even if there is a 99% chance we’d be right.
People realize social media doesn't represent reality and is generally littered with fake accounts and bots, right?
How many of Trumps followers were verified as fake?
Elitist.
Can you stop? What is the point of your stupid comment? Let it fucking go!
He can’t. The epitome of not being able to take what you dish out
I’m not complaining about it though. You don’t get it. I just think it’s hypocritical to call out one side, which is being done on a regular basis. Do you think I’m bothered by the personal attacks? Signed,
Cheeto eating, basement dwelling, keyboard warrior, Internet tough guy, pompous liberal bully elitist who’s not the smartest guy in the room
Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
Yeah thanks for this. I’m just tying to say (and I need to do it more too), let’s stop jumping to conclusions even if there is a 99% chance we’d be right.
If for no other reason, to pre-emptively save face. Jim Carey has a bigger audience then I do and if he'd been wrong he'd have had to sift through a lot of told-you-sos. End of the world? No. But get burned jumping to conclusions enough, credibility is impacted. All the MAGAs who immediately jumped to "false flag" are looking silly now...there's nothing wrong with letting things play out.
1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine 2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
Keep in mind that the troll-in-chief has to share the blame for this with every single supporter, believer, and advisor. They are all complicit.
The cowardice of those in power is disgusting. There are Republicans who are outraged at what has happened. But the alt right with their false flag bullshit, which the President implied in his tweet today about the 'bombs' interrupting how well voting was going - he was told yesterday who was arrested and what his persuasion is. That is simply irresponsible. There will never be any Presidential call for everyone to step back and take a breath and be civil in our debate because he is the one who is stirring the toxic pot of stew that causes nut jobs to try to assassinate people.
Republicans in power need to find their moral compass and condemn the toxic environment that has been caused by Trump. How is this President allowed to get away with so much crap. The bar has been lowered so far that those in power are swimming in the sea of toxicity with Trump. They are complicit.
**Most Republicans are not condoning this** and in the news that I consume which is varied and I will not give a fucking list of what I consume, there is a definite need for someone to show strength to power and condemn not only the bomber but the President's behavior.
His van is Trump's twitter feed. And if someone wants to go the false flag route - this guy has a timeline, he was not created by liberals. It is offensive. This person wanted to kill people. Wake up!
Its irrelevant what the "nice republicans" are saying. They knew trump was using hatred to divide america and build loyalty in his base and they did not speak up in protest.
In fact, every single one of them fell in line.
There are many Republicans who are not in power at the moment, who are in media or who I know that have been outraged by this President from the beginning and many of them have given up their political affiliation. There are also ones in the media and in power who have not spoken up and fallen in line - that is exactly what I wrote in my post. Those people infuriate me. But there are many ex-Repubs that have been battling this President from the get go. So let's call out the people who should be called out.
And the FBI and police departments and postal workers of this country need a serious thank you from all of us. The President won't give it to them but they deserve praise for doing a great job while being vilified.
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
Keep in mind that the troll-in-chief has to share the blame for this with every single supporter, believer, and advisor. They are all complicit.
The cowardice of those in power is disgusting. There are Republicans who are outraged at what has happened. But the alt right with their false flag bullshit, which the President implied in his tweet today about the 'bombs' interrupting how well voting was going - he was told yesterday who was arrested and what his persuasion is. That is simply irresponsible. There will never be any Presidential call for everyone to step back and take a breath and be civil in our debate because he is the one who is stirring the toxic pot of stew that causes nut jobs to try to assassinate people.
Republicans in power need to find their moral compass and condemn the toxic environment that has been caused by Trump. How is this President allowed to get away with so much crap. The bar has been lowered so far that those in power are swimming in the sea of toxicity with Trump. They are complicit.
**Most Republicans are not condoning this** and in the news that I consume which is varied and I will not give a fucking list of what I consume, there is a definite need for someone to show strength to power and condemn not only the bomber but the President's behavior.
His van is Trump's twitter feed. And if someone wants to go the false flag route - this guy has a timeline, he was not created by liberals. It is offensive. This person wanted to kill people. Wake up!
Its irrelevant what the "nice republicans" are saying. They knew trump was using hatred to divide america and build loyalty in his base and they did not speak up in protest.
In fact, every single one of them fell in line.
There are many Republicans who are not in power at the moment, who are in media or who I know that have been outraged by this President from the beginning and many of them have given up their political affiliation. There are also ones in the media and in power who have not spoken up and fallen in line - that is exactly what I wrote in my post. Those people infuriate me. But there are many ex-Repubs that have been battling this President from the get go. So let's call out the people who should be called out.
And the FBI and police departments and postal workers of this country need a serious thank you from all of us. The President won't give it to them but they deserve praise for doing a great job while being vilified.
That seems like a rosy view. It seems that Trump did not become a Republican but the GOP became Trump. I know some some conservatives who don't like Trump, too, but when you look at the party going all-in on this, it's hard to imagine that a critical mass is outraged by this when nobody in power dare question him (which indicates that they know the GOP voters will not stand for such behavior).
This party is all-in (or at least 90% in). It's his party. And it remains the only party that matters at this point.
1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine 2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin
Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
Yeah thanks for this. I’m just tying to say (and I need to do it more too), let’s stop jumping to conclusions even if there is a 99% chance we’d be right.
If for no other reason, to pre-emptively save face. Jim Carey has a bigger audience then I do and if he'd been wrong he'd have had to sift through a lot of told-you-sos. End of the world? No. But get burned jumping to conclusions enough, credibility is impacted. All the MAGAs who immediately jumped to "false flag" are looking silly now...there's nothing wrong with letting things play out.
when you 1st heard of the bombs being mailed out to all the Democrats and critics of Baffoon what was your 1st thought ? , mine was it has to be a deranged supporter of the president ! i didn't think it was a deranged Democrat so yes i jumped to conclusions ...
Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
Yeah thanks for this. I’m just tying to say (and I need to do it more too), let’s stop jumping to conclusions even if there is a 99% chance we’d be right.
If for no other reason, to pre-emptively save face. Jim Carey has a bigger audience then I do and if he'd been wrong he'd have had to sift through a lot of told-you-sos. End of the world? No. But get burned jumping to conclusions enough, credibility is impacted. All the MAGAs who immediately jumped to "false flag" are looking silly now...there's nothing wrong with letting things play out.
Law enforcement cannot begin an investigation with the ends in mind. They have to follow the evidence where it takes them. They can't say this guy is definitely a Trump supporter so that's who we are looking for. They need to leave all options open. Nothing wrong with waiting for law enforcement to catch the real bomber before we have a profile of him that we've assumed. The false flag bullshit continues on the alt right and even into mainstream conservative media. The van is staged, blah, blah, blah. Turns out that he is a Maga asshole. Now that doesn't mean that a separate conversation about how toxic the President's speech is and how it can attract losers like this that find purpose in hate. The President's divisiveness is relevant no matter what; now we see that it did indeed create a monster. Before he was found the first part of that statement was true no matter who they found to be the bomber.
Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
Yeah thanks for this. I’m just tying to say (and I need to do it more too), let’s stop jumping to conclusions even if there is a 99% chance we’d be right.
If for no other reason, to pre-emptively save face. Jim Carey has a bigger audience then I do and if he'd been wrong he'd have had to sift through a lot of told-you-sos. End of the world? No. But get burned jumping to conclusions enough, credibility is impacted. All the MAGAs who immediately jumped to "false flag" are looking silly now...there's nothing wrong with letting things play out.
when you 1st heard of the bombs being mailed out to all the Democrats and critics of Baffoon what was your 1st thought ? , mine was it has to be a deranged supporter of the president ! i didn't think it was a deranged Democrat so yes i jumped to conclusions ...
I jumped to the same conclusion. I think that's a fairly educated guess based on observation of current events and the current political climate.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
Keep in mind that the troll-in-chief has to share the blame for this with every single supporter, believer, and advisor. They are all complicit.
The cowardice of those in power is disgusting. There are Republicans who are outraged at what has happened. But the alt right with their false flag bullshit, which the President implied in his tweet today about the 'bombs' interrupting how well voting was going - he was told yesterday who was arrested and what his persuasion is. That is simply irresponsible. There will never be any Presidential call for everyone to step back and take a breath and be civil in our debate because he is the one who is stirring the toxic pot of stew that causes nut jobs to try to assassinate people.
Republicans in power need to find their moral compass and condemn the toxic environment that has been caused by Trump. How is this President allowed to get away with so much crap. The bar has been lowered so far that those in power are swimming in the sea of toxicity with Trump. They are complicit.
**Most Republicans are not condoning this** and in the news that I consume which is varied and I will not give a fucking list of what I consume, there is a definite need for someone to show strength to power and condemn not only the bomber but the President's behavior.
His van is Trump's twitter feed. And if someone wants to go the false flag route - this guy has a timeline, he was not created by liberals. It is offensive. This person wanted to kill people. Wake up!
Its irrelevant what the "nice republicans" are saying. They knew trump was using hatred to divide america and build loyalty in his base and they did not speak up in protest.
In fact, every single one of them fell in line.
There are many Republicans who are not in power at the moment, who are in media or who I know that have been outraged by this President from the beginning and many of them have given up their political affiliation. There are also ones in the media and in power who have not spoken up and fallen in line - that is exactly what I wrote in my post. Those people infuriate me. But there are many ex-Repubs that have been battling this President from the get go. So let's call out the people who should be called out.
And the FBI and police departments and postal workers of this country need a serious thank you from all of us. The President won't give it to them but they deserve praise for doing a great job while being vilified.
That seems like a rosy view. It seems that Trump did not become a Republican but the GOP became Trump. I know some some conservatives who don't like Trump, too, but when you look at the party going all-in on this, it's hard to imagine that a critical mass is outraged by this when nobody in power dare question him (which indicates that they know the GOP voters will not stand for such behavior).
This party is all-in (or at least 90% in). It's his party. And it remains the only party that matters at this point.
I find nothing rosy about what is going on in our country. I don't know why you are disagreeing with me when we are in agreement. I will not vilify every person who is or has been a Republican though. Trump has taken over the party and it is his cult now and there is a lot of cowardice in a lot of Republicans. We disagree on one simple thing - not every Republican is complicit. Two of the people who were targeted are/were Republicans who have opposed Trump. So there's 2, at least.
Ok so they caught a suspect uhmm i think i saw a picture of his van who was the person on all those stickers he so proudly had all over hi's van ? any one ? , we are loosing sight of who/what has caused this Grand canyon division of it's population stop attacking one another most of us here feel the same about not liking what's happening ...
Keep in mind that the troll-in-chief has to share the blame for this with every single supporter, believer, and advisor. They are all complicit.
The cowardice of those in power is disgusting. There are Republicans who are outraged at what has happened. But the alt right with their false flag bullshit, which the President implied in his tweet today about the 'bombs' interrupting how well voting was going - he was told yesterday who was arrested and what his persuasion is. That is simply irresponsible. There will never be any Presidential call for everyone to step back and take a breath and be civil in our debate because he is the one who is stirring the toxic pot of stew that causes nut jobs to try to assassinate people.
Republicans in power need to find their moral compass and condemn the toxic environment that has been caused by Trump. How is this President allowed to get away with so much crap. The bar has been lowered so far that those in power are swimming in the sea of toxicity with Trump. They are complicit.
**Most Republicans are not condoning this** and in the news that I consume which is varied and I will not give a fucking list of what I consume, there is a definite need for someone to show strength to power and condemn not only the bomber but the President's behavior.
His van is Trump's twitter feed. And if someone wants to go the false flag route - this guy has a timeline, he was not created by liberals. It is offensive. This person wanted to kill people. Wake up!
Its irrelevant what the "nice republicans" are saying. They knew trump was using hatred to divide america and build loyalty in his base and they did not speak up in protest.
In fact, every single one of them fell in line.
There are many Republicans who are not in power at the moment, who are in media or who I know that have been outraged by this President from the beginning and many of them have given up their political affiliation. There are also ones in the media and in power who have not spoken up and fallen in line - that is exactly what I wrote in my post. Those people infuriate me. But there are many ex-Repubs that have been battling this President from the get go. So let's call out the people who should be called out.
And the FBI and police departments and postal workers of this country need a serious thank you from all of us. The President won't give it to them but they deserve praise for doing a great job while being vilified.
That seems like a rosy view. It seems that Trump did not become a Republican but the GOP became Trump. I know some some conservatives who don't like Trump, too, but when you look at the party going all-in on this, it's hard to imagine that a critical mass is outraged by this when nobody in power dare question him (which indicates that they know the GOP voters will not stand for such behavior).
This party is all-in (or at least 90% in). It's his party. And it remains the only party that matters at this point.
My gut tells me that the repubs' own internal polling showed that he was the only one who could beat Hillary out of the field of 19. However, it was so close, within the margin of error, that they couldn't take any chances, hence the knowing collusion with putin on the ritz. Once their internal polling showed them that this was their only chance to win and prevent Hillary from occupying the White House, they basically stepped aside. Do you really think none of the other candidates' campaigns didn't have opposition research showing what we all now know? Doesn't it seem oddly suspicious that none of them came after him for his failures, both personally and in the business world? It was a wink- wink, nod-nod marriage of convenience, never fully realizing what they'd done. But since we're here, hey, tax breaks for the wealthy and conservative judges all-around. They sold their souls and the chickens are coming home to roost. Going to have build a pretty large chicken coop too after Team Mueller is done gather up all those chickens. Just my gut.
http://insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/63818 This is what our homeland secretary is doing on the day of the bombs being discovered but all they can focus on is the fucking brown immigrants for fucks sake where are we living fucking Mars !!
Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
Yeah thanks for this. I’m just tying to say (and I need to do it more too), let’s stop jumping to conclusions even if there is a 99% chance we’d be right.
If for no other reason, to pre-emptively save face. Jim Carey has a bigger audience then I do and if he'd been wrong he'd have had to sift through a lot of told-you-sos. End of the world? No. But get burned jumping to conclusions enough, credibility is impacted. All the MAGAs who immediately jumped to "false flag" are looking silly now...there's nothing wrong with letting things play out.
when you 1st heard of the bombs being mailed out to all the Democrats and critics of Baffoon what was your 1st thought ? , mine was it has to be a deranged supporter of the president ! i didn't think it was a deranged Democrat so yes i jumped to conclusions ...
I jumped to the same conclusion but kept quiet around the MAGAs just in case...going public with the conclusion might not be prudent.
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Perhaps we should wait until the FBI finds out? I mean, this is the most likely situation, but part of the reason we are in the shape we are is jumping to conclusions based on what we want to be true to be true....isn't it? This tweet will likely look correct when all is said and done, but there is still a small, small chance that it won't.
Do I have your permission now, cincy?
cincy wasn't wrong.
Neither was Jim Carrey.
that's obviously different and you know it.
I actually DON'T know it. Try reading someone else's mind, though; maybe you'll have better luck next time.
cincy saying "let's wait until we get all the facts" is obviously different than jim carrey saying it was "someone emboldened by trump's hate speech".
Yeah thanks for this. I’m just tying to say (and I need to do it more too), let’s stop jumping to conclusions even if there is a 99% chance we’d be right.
If for no other reason, to pre-emptively save face. Jim Carey has a bigger audience then I do and if he'd been wrong he'd have had to sift through a lot of told-you-sos. End of the world? No. But get burned jumping to conclusions enough, credibility is impacted. All the MAGAs who immediately jumped to "false flag" are looking silly now...there's nothing wrong with letting things play out.
when you 1st heard of the bombs being mailed out to all the Democrats and critics of Baffoon what was your 1st thought ? , mine was it has to be a deranged supporter of the president ! i didn't think it was a deranged Democrat so yes i jumped to conclusions ...
I jumped to the same conclusion but kept quiet around the MAGAs just in case...going public with the conclusion might not be prudent.
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Republicans in power need to find their moral compass and condemn the toxic environment that has been caused by Trump. How is this President allowed to get away with so much crap. The bar has been lowered so far that those in power are swimming in the sea of toxicity with Trump. They are complicit.
Most Republicans are not condoning this and in the news that I consume which is varied and I will not give a fucking list of what I consume, there is a definite need for someone to show strength to power and condemn not only the bomber but the President's behavior.
His van is Trump's twitter feed. And if someone wants to go the false flag route - this guy has a timeline, he was not created by liberals. It is offensive. This person wanted to kill people. Wake up!
Its not about him, its about the leaders of his political beliefs (as he is clearly a maga man) and their inability to grasp that everyone can hear their words of hatred, even the crazy people. Its not just trump, they used words of personal hatred against obama in 2008.
This is the EXACT reason nobody, especially elected leaders, should vilify any group of people.
To make derogatory comments about liberals, calling them socialists, calling their leader a Kenyan, is playing with fire. Not because it hurts obamas feeling, but because of the deep hatred it sows republican brains.
This is not the same as Basket of deplorables because that was an isolated incident and not drummed up by a propaganda cable network and an entire group of people year after year. Hilary does not and never did speak for me or the liberal community
Theres a reason a mama tells her son not to play with matches. Not to yell fire in a theatre.
Its stunning you dont see this.
Its irrelevant what the "nice republicans" are saying. They knew trump was using hatred to divide america and build loyalty in his base and they did not speak up in protest.
In fact, every single one of them fell in line.
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And the FBI and police departments and postal workers of this country need a serious thank you from all of us. The President won't give it to them but they deserve praise for doing a great job while being vilified.
This party is all-in (or at least 90% in). It's his party. And it remains the only party that matters at this point.
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My gut tells me that the repubs' own internal polling showed that he was the only one who could beat Hillary out of the field of 19. However, it was so close, within the margin of error, that they couldn't take any chances, hence the knowing collusion with putin on the ritz. Once their internal polling showed them that this was their only chance to win and prevent Hillary from occupying the White House, they basically stepped aside. Do you really think none of the other candidates' campaigns didn't have opposition research showing what we all now know? Doesn't it seem oddly suspicious that none of them came after him for his failures, both personally and in the business world? It was a wink- wink, nod-nod marriage of convenience, never fully realizing what they'd done. But since we're here, hey, tax breaks for the wealthy and conservative judges all-around. They sold their souls and the chickens are coming home to roost. Going to have build a pretty large chicken coop too after Team Mueller is done gather up all those chickens. Just my gut.
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This is what our homeland secretary is doing on the day of the bombs being discovered but all they can focus on is the fucking brown immigrants for fucks sake where are we living fucking Mars !!
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