What if Trump pardons these goons that stormed the capital? Or promised he would to their leadership beforehand??
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What if Trump pardons these goons that stormed the capital? Or promised he would to their leadership beforehand??
He won't, he's given up. He is only tough when he's got an entourage backing him up and his entourage has turned on him. My personal theory is that he's been threatened with the 25th amendment and Pence-supported Impeachment if he doesn't fall in line. I think Pence sensed his moment and said, "You've embarrassed and debased me for 4 years and it's over. It ends today or so help me your entire family will be sorry."
What if Trump pardons these goons that stormed the capital? Or promised he would to their leadership beforehand??
He won't, he's given up. He is only tough when he's got an entourage backing him up and his entourage has turned on him. My personal theory is that he's been threatened with the 25th amendment and Pence-supported Impeachment if he doesn't fall in line. I think Pence sensed his moment and said, "You've embarrassed and debased me for 4 years and it's over. It ends today or so help me your entire family will be sorry."
Trump wouldn't back down from anyone or anything. He's a megalomaniac and I would disagree with this.
What if Trump pardons these goons that stormed the capital? Or promised he would to their leadership beforehand??
He won't, he's given up. He is only tough when he's got an entourage backing him up and his entourage has turned on him. My personal theory is that he's been threatened with the 25th amendment and Pence-supported Impeachment if he doesn't fall in line. I think Pence sensed his moment and said, "You've embarrassed and debased me for 4 years and it's over. It ends today or so help me your entire family will be sorry."
I don' t know that he's given up.
But I don't think he'll pardon them (if that would even be logistically possible; a lot of them are going to be identified after he's out). He no longer has use for them. He doesn't do anything for anyone that can't help him.
That said, I don't see anyone actually doing time over this.* Maybe I should have said that in the "white privilege" thread. *Unless they actually figure out who killed the cop. That person would not looking at a lot of freedom in the future.
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“All Trump will be in the future is the answer to a History test question to which president sent of mob of supporters to attack his own Vice President in a live session of Congress.”
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“All Trump will be in the future is the answer to a History test question to which president sent of mob of supporters to attack his own Vice President in a live session of Congress.”
Interesting enough those were Q followers and Not Proud Boys that I have seen but maybe some will get identified?
“All Trump will be in the future is the answer to a History test question to which president sent of mob of supporters to attack his own Vice President in a live session of Congress.”
Interesting enough those were Q followers and Not Proud Boys that I have seen but maybe some will get identified?
Snitches get stitches. Makes Fast & Furious look like cosplay. Wonder if the same douche baggery AG that resigned from the POOTWH Administration that was involved with Jeffery Epstein was involved? Only the best people.
Proud
Boys leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio was once a prolific cooperator with
FBI and local law enforcement in South Florida, according to court
records from a 2012 fraud case in which he pleaded guilty to helping
sell stolen goods.
Tarrio
is under intense law enforcement scrutiny since the Jan. 6 riot at the
U.S. Capitol, in which members of the Proud Boys have been charged with
some of the most destructive and aggressive acts around the building,
according to people familiar with the FBI’s ongoing investigation who
spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the case.
The
Proud Boys are a male chauvinist group with ties to white nationalism.
Last year, then-President Trump famously told the group to “stand back,
and stand by” when asked during a debate to condemn white supremacists
and the Proud Boys in particular. The moment emboldened the group and
others like it who felt Trump’s comment indicated they had presidential
support.
The
Proud Boys have led numerous pro-Trump protests, though since Jan. 6,
Tarrio has called for a halt on participating in marches. Even before
the riot, he was the subject of a law enforcement investigation, and was
arrested in early January for allegedly burning a Black Lives Matter
banner torn down from a historic church during a previous protest in
D.C. Tarrio has pleaded not guilty.
Tarrio,
who has denied the Proud Boys organized any violence at the Capitol,
did not respond to a text message and phone call seeking comment about
his past cooperation with law enforcement, first reported Wednesday by Reuters.
He told the news service that he had no recollection of assisting law
enforcement despite being identified in the court documents.
In
a screed posted online later in the day, Tarrio criticized the
government and the media for disclosing his past activities, and argued
that his cooperation was done with the full knowledge and participation
of his co-defendants. Tarrio said in the post that by reporting the
contents of a public court hearing, “they have proven that if you
cooperate with the US government they will hang you out to dry... So my
question is... is it worth it? That I leave up to y’all to decide.”
It
is unclear how his record as a cooperator will be received by the
members of his group, which proclaims itself to be pro-law enforcement,
although they have clashed openly with police officers in recent
protests, including at the Capitol.
At
a 2014 hearing in his case, then-prosecutor Vanessa Johannes described
Tarrio as “probably the most cooperative from day one. From day one, he
was the one who wanted to talk to law enforcement, wanted to clear his
name, wanted to straighten this out so that he could move on with his
life.”
The
prosecutor told the court that Tarrio’s cooperation helped federal
agents prosecute 13 others, and aided local police with a number of
undercover drug investigations.
Jeffrey
Feiler, Tarrio’s defense attorney at the time, said that Tarrio’s broad
cooperation allowed law enforcement to successfully raid multiple
marijuana grow houses and seize 100 pounds of the drug. He said Tarrio
also “worked in an undercover capacity in a case involving information
pertaining to an illegal immigrant smuggling ring and, again at his own
risk, in an undercover role met and negotiated to pay $11,000 to members
of that ring to bring in fictitious family members of his from another
country.” The prosecutor, though, said nothing came of that case.
Feiler
said that in addition to the cooperation Tarrio provided that produced
indictments or other tangible results, Tarrio also made 10 attempts that
did not ultimately work, sometimes because the local police department
involved just did not have the manpower. Those cases involved steroids,
cocaine, ecstasy, and credit card theft, Feiler said.
At
the 2014 hearing, Feiler argued Tarrio’s cooperation had earned him a
reduction of his prison sentence by 18 months, while the prosecutor
argued for a 10-month cut. The judge ultimately reduced his sentence
nearly in half, from 30 months to 16 months.
Feiler
said in an interview with The Washington Post on Wednesday that he had
limited memory of the case, and was unsure if Tarrio’s work with law
enforcement extended further in any sort of paid or other capacity.
“Typically
what will happen is a defendant or cooperator will run the gamut of
everything they hope to accomplish, and then there will come a point
where they’ve done all they can do,” Feiler said.
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They have an agenda so believe it and I don't recall seeing one post besides mine that brought up the Asian hate crimes. Asians are looking for help so if they can get it from them, why not?
They have an agenda so believe it and I don't recall seeing one post besides mine that brought up the Asian hate crimes. Asians are looking for help so if they can get it from them, why not?
Ah, I don't read trash. If I wanted to research this I would do a google search and see if I could corroborate.
Nobody should have hate crimes perpetrated against them. Well, maybe the "Proud Boys"...
I just don't consider them a reliable resource, so it is dismissed. You put a question after the post "Seriously??" and my response was to that -- I do not take anything seriously from that source.
This video is hilarious. Great live commentary destroying sad Proud Boy who is trying to destroy a Pride sign
that is great....and so reminds me of the story EV has told at least three times I've heard. where the security guard at the snagged his polaroids and could not rip them them up.
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My personal theory is that he's been threatened with the 25th amendment and Pence-supported Impeachment if he doesn't fall in line. I think Pence sensed his moment and said, "You've embarrassed and debased me for 4 years and it's over. It ends today or so help me your entire family will be sorry."
But I don't think he'll pardon them (if that would even be logistically possible; a lot of them are going to be identified after he's out). He no longer has use for them. He doesn't do anything for anyone that can't help him.
That said, I don't see anyone actually doing time over this.* Maybe I should have said that in the "white privilege" thread.
*Unless they actually figure out who killed the cop. That person would not looking at a lot of freedom in the future.
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Proud Boys leader once cooperated with FBI, informed on other suspects in 2012 fraud case
Proud Boys leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio was once a prolific cooperator with FBI and local law enforcement in South Florida, according to court records from a 2012 fraud case in which he pleaded guilty to helping sell stolen goods.
Tarrio is under intense law enforcement scrutiny since the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, in which members of the Proud Boys have been charged with some of the most destructive and aggressive acts around the building, according to people familiar with the FBI’s ongoing investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the case.
The Proud Boys are a male chauvinist group with ties to white nationalism. Last year, then-President Trump famously told the group to “stand back, and stand by” when asked during a debate to condemn white supremacists and the Proud Boys in particular. The moment emboldened the group and others like it who felt Trump’s comment indicated they had presidential support.
The Proud Boys have led numerous pro-Trump protests, though since Jan. 6, Tarrio has called for a halt on participating in marches. Even before the riot, he was the subject of a law enforcement investigation, and was arrested in early January for allegedly burning a Black Lives Matter banner torn down from a historic church during a previous protest in D.C. Tarrio has pleaded not guilty.
Tarrio, who has denied the Proud Boys organized any violence at the Capitol, did not respond to a text message and phone call seeking comment about his past cooperation with law enforcement, first reported Wednesday by Reuters. He told the news service that he had no recollection of assisting law enforcement despite being identified in the court documents.
In a screed posted online later in the day, Tarrio criticized the government and the media for disclosing his past activities, and argued that his cooperation was done with the full knowledge and participation of his co-defendants. Tarrio said in the post that by reporting the contents of a public court hearing, “they have proven that if you cooperate with the US government they will hang you out to dry... So my question is... is it worth it? That I leave up to y’all to decide.”
It is unclear how his record as a cooperator will be received by the members of his group, which proclaims itself to be pro-law enforcement, although they have clashed openly with police officers in recent protests, including at the Capitol.
FBI moves on alleged members of extremist groups
At a 2014 hearing in his case, then-prosecutor Vanessa Johannes described Tarrio as “probably the most cooperative from day one. From day one, he was the one who wanted to talk to law enforcement, wanted to clear his name, wanted to straighten this out so that he could move on with his life.”
The prosecutor told the court that Tarrio’s cooperation helped federal agents prosecute 13 others, and aided local police with a number of undercover drug investigations.
Jeffrey Feiler, Tarrio’s defense attorney at the time, said that Tarrio’s broad cooperation allowed law enforcement to successfully raid multiple marijuana grow houses and seize 100 pounds of the drug. He said Tarrio also “worked in an undercover capacity in a case involving information pertaining to an illegal immigrant smuggling ring and, again at his own risk, in an undercover role met and negotiated to pay $11,000 to members of that ring to bring in fictitious family members of his from another country.” The prosecutor, though, said nothing came of that case.
Trump’s ‘stand by’ remark puts the Proud Boys in the spotlight
Feiler said that in addition to the cooperation Tarrio provided that produced indictments or other tangible results, Tarrio also made 10 attempts that did not ultimately work, sometimes because the local police department involved just did not have the manpower. Those cases involved steroids, cocaine, ecstasy, and credit card theft, Feiler said.
At the 2014 hearing, Feiler argued Tarrio’s cooperation had earned him a reduction of his prison sentence by 18 months, while the prosecutor argued for a 10-month cut. The judge ultimately reduced his sentence nearly in half, from 30 months to 16 months.
Feiler said in an interview with The Washington Post on Wednesday that he had limited memory of the case, and was unsure if Tarrio’s work with law enforcement extended further in any sort of paid or other capacity.
“Typically what will happen is a defendant or cooperator will run the gamut of everything they hope to accomplish, and then there will come a point where they’ve done all they can do,” Feiler said.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Five people associated with Proud Boys arrested for Capitol riot on conspiracy charges https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/11/politics/proud-boys-capitol-riot-arrest/index.html
Are the house managers bringing that up today?
I just don't consider them a reliable resource, so it is dismissed. You put a question after the post "Seriously??" and my response was to that -- I do not take anything seriously from that source.
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I believe he lost his "dramatic effect" and is now gone viral for a completely different reason, lol.
Is he really a "proud boy"? He doesn't dress like the common one.
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