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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,012
    DL136722 said:
    I mentioned setlist recently have been good but the 2013 tour truly had some gems

    About the Fenway shows this yr at least, again, could've gone on earlier or had an opener for 30-40 min. I miss opening acts, it exposed me to bands which led to being exposed to other bands. My logic being if a band is opening for PJ they're probably alright. 
    Put X on my radar. Made me crazy about MMJ.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,883
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Using any of the following phrases is really really lame:
    1. Uncle Neil (you aren’t in the band and he isn’t your uncle.)
    2. Jamily 
    3. It doesn’t get “Eddie Vedder” than this. (No, no and no.)



    DUDE! This is so fucking funny!! Allie's gif response too. Hahaha!!
    Well played by Allie for sure!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    AmishGuy91AmishGuy91 Posts: 826
    Saying "the poster looks so much better in person" is overplayed and obvious
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    pjl44 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    pjl44 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    rustneversleeps said:
    good grief this was hard to read....
    There is some absolute craziness in this thread. 
    My favorite posts are the ones with 20 items in a bulleted list. It hasn't occurred to them yet that maybe they don't actually like this band.
    Not very good logic. A list of posts doesn’t equal not liking the band. It just means your line of thought about those particular things goes against what most people agree on.
    If I must expound, it's when the 20 things are all negative about an album, songs, setlist construction, etc. Also, it was throwaway pithy snark.
    Yeah, I get what you're saying. It does seem like a few posts turn from a list of "unpopular opinions" to a list of "complaints."
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,503
    cincinnati dude said:
    I love the song BUGS... Seriously... It's brilliant!
    Me too!!!
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,428
    AmishGuy91 said:
    Saying "the poster looks so much better in person" is overplayed and obvious
    And mostly posted in regard to hideous posters. 
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    crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,418
    Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 
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    bobby dazzlersbobby dazzlers Posts: 1,994
    crookedcross said:
    Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 
    Same with Pitt 2013.
    It's a hopeless... situation
    And I'm starting to believe
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,008
    Very few posters are worth $100, and none are worth  more than $200.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,539
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

    I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 
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    MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,100
    edited October 2018
    bootlegger10 said:
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

    I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 
    I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted.  AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style). 
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    riley540riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,128
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


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    MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,100
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    I'll take it even a step further.  Most "Bill Graham Presents" events (fillmore, warfield, and the old Grateful Dead world) were/are given away free as each concert-goer leaves the venue.  
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,067
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    Value - supply/demand
    Appeal - limited works of art that commemorate an event
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,428
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    Can’t you say that about just about any antique or collectible?

    Baseball cards, stamps, vintage toys?  None were initially produced to be collectible. 
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    tubes10stubes10s Posts: 512
    riley540 said:
    The whole poster thing is kind of crazy. 

    Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed. 

    Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal. 


    That would be pretty rough if any item could only have the appeal that it originally had when it was first made and/or used.  Phones would be seriously out of luck and have no value or appeal whatsoever!  :)
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    rriversrrivers Posts: 3,687
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    -i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band
     

    Agree 100%.  There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs".  I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.
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    MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,100
    rrivers said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    -i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band
     

    Agree 100%.  There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs".  I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.
    Only 2 Stone songs on Lightning Bolt.  Maybe that was the problem!
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    JT167846JT167846 Posts: 820
    Milestone said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......

    I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone. 
    Ditto.
    I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.

    I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally. 
    I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted.  AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style). 
    Yeah I could imagine a massive GNR vs MLB rivalry had Andy survived too. I wonder how much Cobain hated MLB if he thought PJ were too commercial.

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    edited October 2018
    I don't agree with that. One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal, especially compared to GnR. Also, GnR's music was simply superior and had way more mass appeal for several reasons - skill, vocals, lyrics, style ... pretty much everything. I think suggesting that MLB might have reached GnR levels of success probably demonstrates a pretty serious bias for MLB, no offense.
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    bobby dazzlers said:
    crookedcross said:
    Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 
    Same with Pitt 2013.
     :o 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    edited October 2018
    rummy said:
    bobby dazzlers said:
    crookedcross said:
    Rome poster is so overrated. One of them brand name posters. 
    Same with Pitt 2013.
     :o 
    I finally saw the Pitt '13 poster in person at MoPop .... It's fucking awesome. I believe it to be PJ's greatest poster of all time.
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    SmallestOceansSmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

    Er, I meant as a band.
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    SmallestOceansSmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    PJ_Soul said:
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

    Er, I meant as a band.
    Haha! Stone disagrees.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.

    Er, I meant as a band.
    Haha! Stone disagrees.
    :lol:
    No, but really... what I mean isn't related to the subjective sexiness or hotness of each band member. It's more about the overall vibe of the group together and their sound. That rock "sex appeal" that record labels drool over because it sells millions of records to fans, the majority of whom are men, lol.

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    KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 899
    Setting Forth is in thr bottom 10 songs live: luckily only 1 1/2 mins
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    iwantmypieiwantmypie Posts: 47
    edited October 2018
    Boom Gaspar doesn't do it for me at all.







    jk he's the friggin man  =)
    Post edited by iwantmypie on
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