I mentioned setlist recently have been good but the 2013 tour truly had some gems
About the Fenway shows this yr at least, again, could've gone on earlier or had an opener for 30-40 min. I miss opening acts, it exposed me to bands which led to being exposed to other bands. My logic being if a band is opening for PJ they're probably alright.
Put X on my radar. Made me crazy about MMJ.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Using any of the following phrases is really really lame: 1. Uncle Neil (you aren’t in the band and he isn’t your uncle.) 2. Jamily 3. It doesn’t get “Eddie Vedder” than this. (No, no and no.)
My favorite posts are the ones with 20 items in a bulleted list. It hasn't occurred to them yet that maybe they don't actually like this band.
Not very good logic. A list of posts doesn’t equal not liking the band. It just means your line of thought about those particular things goes against what most people agree on.
If I must expound, it's when the 20 things are all negative about an album, songs, setlist construction, etc. Also, it was throwaway pithy snark.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. It does seem like a few posts turn from a list of "unpopular opinions" to a list of "complaints."
I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......
I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone.
Ditto.
I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.
I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally.
I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted. AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style).
Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed.
Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal.
Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed.
Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal.
I'll take it even a step further. Most "Bill Graham Presents" events (fillmore, warfield, and the old Grateful Dead world) were/are given away free as each concert-goer leaves the venue.
Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed.
Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal.
Value - supply/demand Appeal - limited works of art that commemorate an event
Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed.
Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal.
Can’t you say that about just about any antique or collectible?
Baseball cards, stamps, vintage toys? None were initially produced to be collectible.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh
Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed.
Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal.
That would be pretty rough if any item could only have the appeal that it originally had when it was first made and/or used. Phones would be seriously out of luck and have no value or appeal whatsoever!
8-31-98 - Raleigh
8-3-00 - Virginia Beach
4-16-03 - Charlotte
5-27-06 - Camden 1
5-28-06 - Camden 2
5-30-06 - DC
6-17-08 - Virginia Beach
6-22-08 - DC
5-13-10 - Bristow
10-27-13 - Baltimore
10-29-13 - Charlottesville
4-18-16 - Hampton
-i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band
Agree 100%. There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs". I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.
-i feel bad for stone, he writes the best riffs the band has ever had, and ties together the music theory but everyone is forced to deal with Ed’s continuous forced direction on the band
Agree 100%. There catalog is filled with way too many "Ed songs". I like that everyone writes songs and they try to make the songs sound different, but it's a bummer there aren't more Stone-awesome riff/Ed lyric songs.
Only 2 Stone songs on Lightning Bolt. Maybe that was the problem!
I'm going to word this carefully and pull some punches......
I do not care for the music of Andy Wood and Mother Love Bone.
Ditto.
I think it's probably one of those more prevalent unspoken opinions around here.
I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally.
I think they would have made it big, but wouldn't have lasted. AW reminds me a little of the Vince Neil, Jani Lane, Bret Michaels, Sebastian Bach category. Guys that wanted stardom so bad, wanted to play stadiums, and wanted to be a rock god (rather than reluctantly taking that on, such as Ed's style).
Yeah I could imagine a massive GNR vs MLB rivalry had Andy survived too. I wonder how much Cobain hated MLB if he thought PJ were too commercial.
Stars are suns to other people.
Wellington 1998 London 2007 Brisbane 2009 Stockholm 2012
Amsterdam 1 & 2 2014 EV Dublin 2017 Milan 2018 Padova 2018 Boston 2 2018 Auckland 1 & 2 2024
I don't agree with that. One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal, especially compared to GnR. Also, GnR's music was simply superior and had way more mass appeal for several reasons - skill, vocals, lyrics, style ... pretty much everything. I think suggesting that MLB might have reached GnR levels of success probably demonstrates a pretty serious bias for MLB, no offense.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
One of MLB's problems was that they had about 0% sex appeal.
Er, I meant as a band.
Haha! Stone disagrees.
No, but really... what I mean isn't related to the subjective sexiness or hotness of each band member. It's more about the overall vibe of the group together and their sound. That rock "sex appeal" that record labels drool over because it sells millions of records to fans, the majority of whom are men, lol.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Who is wrong and who’s right
I can't imagine that they would have made it big nationally.
7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula. 5-10-2024 Portland. 5-30-2024 Seattle.
Back in the early days of rock n roll posters were hung up at a venue as an advertisement for a band, and then it was usually just thrown away. Posters weren’t for sale. That’s why some of the Joplin, Greatful Dead, and early Hendrix posters are so valuable. They were meant to be trashed.
Now days, they print a few thousand and sell them. So I don’t get the value or the appeal.
7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula. 5-10-2024 Portland. 5-30-2024 Seattle.
Appeal - limited works of art that commemorate an event
Baseball cards, stamps, vintage toys? None were initially produced to be collectible.
8-3-00 - Virginia Beach
4-16-03 - Charlotte
5-27-06 - Camden 1
5-28-06 - Camden 2
5-30-06 - DC
6-17-08 - Virginia Beach
6-22-08 - DC
5-13-10 - Bristow
10-27-13 - Baltimore
10-29-13 - Charlottesville
4-18-16 - Hampton
7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula. 5-10-2024 Portland. 5-30-2024 Seattle.
Wellington 1998
London 2007
Brisbane 2009
Stockholm 2012
EV Dublin 2017
Milan 2018
Padova 2018
Boston 2 2018
Auckland 1 & 2 2024
Trieste 14, Vienna 14, Gdynia 14, Leeds 14, Milton Keynes 14, Denver 14
Central Park 15
Fort Lauderdale 16, Miami 16, Tampa 16, Jacksonville 16, Greenville 16, Hampton 16, Columbia 16, Lexington 16, Philly1 16, Philly2 16, NYC1 16, NYC2 16, Quebec City 16, Ottawa 16, Toronto1 16, Toronto2 16, Fenway1 16, Fenway2 16, Wrigley1 16, Wrigley2 16
Trieste 14, Vienna 14, Gdynia 14, Leeds 14, Milton Keynes 14, Denver 14
Central Park 15
Fort Lauderdale 16, Miami 16, Tampa 16, Jacksonville 16, Greenville 16, Hampton 16, Columbia 16, Lexington 16, Philly1 16, Philly2 16, NYC1 16, NYC2 16, Quebec City 16, Ottawa 16, Toronto1 16, Toronto2 16, Fenway1 16, Fenway2 16, Wrigley1 16, Wrigley2 16
jk he's the friggin man