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HesCalledDyer

-- "Gems and rhinestones" is a good lyric

deadendp

LastExitBJP said:

This feels like getting the spotlight at a support group . . .  My turn lol
I can't help but connect the dots between Brendan O'Brien's return to the band and the over produced commercial sound to the records he's since worked on (Listen to the difference between Self-Titled and Backspacer . . . .). 
Eddie is starting to sound like a youth pastor at shows.
Can't understand why people don't like Parachutes. That song is amazing. We don't get many PJ songs with that kind of vibe. 
I don't know why people like Alive so much. The amount of attention Ten gets, as opposed to their other stuff, it like saying, "Yea the best time of my life was my angsty high school days."
The jams/extra bits they get into on stage, I freaking love (Evenflow, extended bass part within Save You, longer outro to Big Wave, etc.). I never understood why they don't put straight instrumental tracks on their records (More like Aye Davanita), or more loose jammy stuff (like instead of fading out at the end of Big Wave on the record, why not just keep it going? I hate it cause you can hear the band really starting to get into something rocking and then . . . nope.) The band clearly has the chops to do it. That's one of the main differences between their records, and live shows. Wish they could bridge that gap. 
Gone is terrible.
Nothingman is super depressing and is a bummer live.  
And stop playing Wishlist if you're gonna forget the words %90 of the time hahaha. 

@lolobugg  

HesCalledDyer said:

-- "Gems and rhinestones" is a good lyric

From time to time, I have texted that to a good friend here.   

pdalowsky

Stickman24 said:

23scidoo said:

Star Wars movies sucks..

This. I’m not alone. 

Now this is just crazy talk

bootlegger10

Thomas's train poster for Chicago is overrated.  It is too one dimensional and just looks like a mess. 

lastexitlondon

I can't listen to unthought  known and wishlist any more 

texasistheSTEVEN

I'd buy more from tenclub if we weren't hit with such high import fees in the UK....Actually maybe thats a popular opinion hahaha.
Maybe use the euro store as an actual store to sell the US based stuff through. That would go a long way with the thousands of Euro fans.

lastexitlondon

I like this thread it's like therapy. And reading other people's feelings makes mine feel ok. Good job folks. 

EnterThanman

Yield is their weakest record.
Sevens is and was, a stupid idea. 
Pittsburgh 2013 poster is ugly.
Alive needs to be pulled for a little while.
2000-2007 were the most fun years to be a PJ fan. 

pjl44

EnterThanman said:

2000-2007 were the most fun years to be a PJ fan. 

Just a guess, but have to think this is a pretty popular opinion. 3 studio albums plus Lost Dogs and Benaroya Hall. Sprawling tours of North America and Europe. Brought out some awesome openers on the road.

23scidoo

pdalowsky said:

Stickman24 said:

23scidoo said:

Star Wars movies sucks..

This. I’m not alone. 

Now this is just crazy talk

No Paul, i'm totally serious..
also Friends sucks..

Spiritual_Chaos

23scidoo said:

pdalowsky said:

Stickman24 said:

23scidoo said:

Star Wars movies sucks..

This. I’m not alone. 

Now this is just crazy talk

No Paul, i'm totally serious..
also Friends sucks..

The first film is a nice self-contained matiné adventure. 
Don't need the rest of them.

JimmyV

The occasional request is OK but otherwise the band should never, ever listen to fans on this board when writing setlists.

23scidoo

You Are is awesome!!

cincybearcat

Black live is a setlist killer.

Pap

Kearn5y said: I don't like Leatherman.

23scidoo said: Friends sucks...

frisbiec

• Index cards and money order only payment was better than the online ticket lottery
• Reserved is better than GA
• Pearl Jam has always had bad t-shirts
• PJ20 documentary and book were both disappointing - Single Video Theory > Touring Band 2000 > Immagine in Cornice > PJ20 > Live at the Garden > Live at the Showbox > Let's Play Two
• Curb Your Enthusiasm is better than Seinfeld

Spiritual_Chaos

frisbiec said:

• Index cards and money order only payment was better than the online ticket lottery
• Reserved is better than GA
• Pearl Jam has always had bad t-shirts
• PJ20 documentary and book were both disappointing - Single Video Theory > Touring Band 2000 > Immagine in Cornice > PJ20 > Live at the Garden > Live at the Showbox > Let's Play Two
• Curb Your Enthusiasm is better than Seinfeld

What bands has good tshirts then?

PJ20 was a missed opportunity

Spiritual_Chaos

• The Super deluxe boxes of Ten and Vs/Vitalogy were kind of tacky, and seems kind of poorly thought out with them scrapping the whole thing. Should have been the music + a documentary (or book) about the making of the album in depth, breaking down every song. Instead of tacky plastic memorabilia stuff that adds nothing. Waste of plastic and space. Think "quality" instead of "what do everyone else do with super deluxe sets - oh right - random plastic trinkets!". 

frisbiec

Spiritual_Chaos said:

frisbiec said:

• Index cards and money order only payment was better than the online ticket lottery
• Reserved is better than GA
• Pearl Jam has always had bad t-shirts
• PJ20 documentary and book were both disappointing - Single Video Theory > Touring Band 2000 > Immagine in Cornice > PJ20 > Live at the Garden > Live at the Showbox > Let's Play Two
• Curb Your Enthusiasm is better than Seinfeld

What bands has good tshirts then?

PJ20 was a missed opportunity

Good question . . . It changes from time to time, but right now I am really liking Mastodon's art work and t-shirt designs. Agree that PJ20 was a missed opportunity, I enjoy the supplemental material and bonus footage more. The book itself, is hard to read as a whole, but has some cool parts.

incidental immortality

Jeremy is the best song on Ten.
I prefer a fast start.  Give me Given to Fly or Corduroy to lead of.
MSG really isn't all that special.  I made a trip there in '16 and it seemed pretty standard.
If I wait in the GA line for longer than an hour it ruins the entire show for me.  I don't know how others can spend all day (or overnight) there.
Stone is my preferred guitarist.
Maybe its all nostalgia but I enjoy the outdoor venues.
I don't think GA is a major factor in the energy of a show.
I think that Nothing As It Seems would have been better on a Jeff solos album.  I thin his demo is much better than the PJ album version.
I will never understand drinking excessively before or during the show.
I love the album version of Rearviewmirror but don't like it when they jam it live.  The album version builds until the energy peaks right before the end.  Putting a jam in the middle ruins the "tension".
I think that the reserved seating with lottery for rows 1, 2, 9, and 10 does a better job at getting different people people to the front than GA.
I genuinely love every PJ album.   I'm not a fan of every song but I have entries from my top ten from every album.  I don't think that I could continue to be a fan for so long if I didn't enjoy the music post-2000.