Obstructed view for 10C seats at Fenway
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schmately said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess most people would consider having a pole in your face all night is not a "good seat".
Season ticket holders get a presale option to purchase tix. 10C has the option to not sell garbage. Period. Personally, I'm not happy to "just be in the building" spending over $100/ticket for something that doesn't allow you to see and have horrible sound quality. You could sit out on Landsdowne Street and watch a Periscope feed and get that wonderful experience for nothing.
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thevachon said:Heard that, mine were below sea level night one, but I still had a blast I just had to stand all night and rely on the screens. Still an amazing show and I was just stoked to be in the door.0
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cellophane_star said:eeriepadave said:Redrumh2o said:Here are my 10C tickets not marked obsteucted......who can I complain to because I sure as hell am going to
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why is this still a thing?First: ATL2 04/03/1994
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mpedone said:schmately said:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess most people would consider having a pole in your face all night is not a "good seat".
Season ticket holders get a presale option to purchase tix. 10C has the option to not sell garbage. Period. Personally, I'm not happy to "just be in the building" spending over $100/ticket for something that doesn't allow you to see and have horrible sound quality. You could sit out on Landsdowne Street and watch a Periscope feed and get that wonderful experience for nothing.
When you buy Red Sox tickets (and other concerts) at Fenway, your tickets are specifically noted as obstructed or limited view. This did not happen with 10c tickets. If you like a pole in front of your face because your closer to still not seeing anything, god bless. Me, no.0 -
whofeelslikeadrank said:why is this still a thing?
Because if it's not a thing, 10c will continue to do it. Not all of us are lemmings who are just happy to be in the building.0 -
whofeelslikeadrank said:why is this still a thing?
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5/21/10- NYC
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Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA0 -
10c clearly disclosed seats may be far back or high up. That alone would be disappointing but not really something to complain about. On the other hand to my knowledge there was no disclosure about major obstructions such as the pole someone showed in a photo on this thread. In my opinion someone could legitimately have a complaint about that.
Personally my biggest complaint is they did not play Unthought Known either night. There's no way there are 60 better songs than that. I'm sorry but I never heard of Buffalo Tom. Did we really need two of that song or any of the other repeats and no UK. I mean seriously how does that happen? Shows were still good and knowing what I know now I would do it all again but that was a major omission. One fan's view.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
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schmately said:whofeelslikeadrank said:why is this still a thing?
Because if it's not a thing, 10c will continue to do it. Not all of us are lemmings who are just happy to be in the building.whofeelslikeadrank said:why is this still a thing?
merch situation sucks! ok, let’s park a trailer outside so the fans can get shit before the show. yet that still gets complaints.
set lists not diverse enough, too many repeats! ok, let’s do Charlottesville or Moline or Greensboro, etc, PLUS marathon performances. yet that still gets complaints.
soundboard recordings? check.
small town USA? check.
consistently on the road? check.
baseball stadiums? check.
Mike, picks please? check.
i get a complaint about an obstructed view, but who doesn’t know this is a possibility at ANY show? call me a lemming just happy to be in the building...but we are so fuckin’ lucky to be a part of a once in a generation fan base, it’s sick!
maybe i’m in the minority to just feel fortunate enough to be able to say that i was a part of something that my grandkids can look back on and say “fuck yea”? if so, i’m glad to be part of that group.
i’m sorry if i offended either of you, or anyone else with the snide comment, but we are pretty goddamn lucky to be a part of those guys’ artistic visions.First: ATL2 04/03/1994
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If my seat was behind a pole on in a dugout I would have bitched and got myself a better seat. I've been upgraded many times by just talking to the right people before a show starts. One example is Tom Petty several years back in Oakland. View was fine, but the sound was terrible. They didn't have a speaker stack pointing to these seats. So after the warm up act I went to the usher people and complained. Had to talk to 3 different people to make my case, but they finally put me in much better seats. Paying $250 a pair to have a pole in your face is completely unacceptable. There are always places staff can put you even in the most sold out show.10/1/94, 6/22/95, 6/24/95, 9/16/96, 7/22/98, 10/21/01, 6/1/03, 10/25/03, 10/26/03, 9/1/05, 7/15/06, 7/18/06, 8/28/09, 10/07/09, 10/3/12, 11/26/13, 6/18/18, 8/10/18, 5/12/22, 5/13/22, 5/13/24, 5/25/240
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kst said:10c clearly disclosed seats may be far back or high up. That alone would be disappointing but not really something to complain about. On the other hand to my knowledge there was no disclosure about major obstructions such as the pole someone showed in a photo on this thread. In my opinion someone could legitimately have a complaint about that.
Personally my biggest complaint is they did not play Unthought Known either night. There's no way there are 60 better songs than that. I'm sorry but I never heard of Buffalo Tom. Did we really need two of that song or any of the other repeats and no UK. I mean seriously how does that happen? Shows were still good and knowing what I know now I would do it all again but that was a major omission. One fan's view.0 -
If one thing is certain, it is that I am not camping out for 3 days to do that.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
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Big Bank Hank said:kst said:10c clearly disclosed seats may be far back or high up. That alone would be disappointing but not really something to complain about. On the other hand to my knowledge there was no disclosure about major obstructions such as the pole someone showed in a photo on this thread. In my opinion someone could legitimately have a complaint about that.
Personally my biggest complaint is they did not play Unthought Known either night. There's no way there are 60 better songs than that. I'm sorry but I never heard of Buffalo Tom. Did we really need two of that song or any of the other repeats and no UK. I mean seriously how does that happen? Shows were still good and knowing what I know now I would do it all again but that was a major omission. One fan's view.
Edit: Just re-read the original comment and that's pretty dick, too. You two deserve each other. I'm jumping on the positivity thread.Post edited by pjl44 on0 -
Tickets were $225 a pair, therefore I can understand wanting/expecting a view.0
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$247 a pair. The location of seats was known since July. Fenway is famous for the poles. If you have a high 10C number you had to know that this was a possibility.0
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I crave for a smoked filled bar show , no screens no poles no turf just a small stage a couple of bars in the back and working bathrooms , fuck any stadium show I wouldn’t attend even if they played Citifield or Yankee stadium...this band lost its guts long time ago this is my own personal opinion..jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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josevolution said:I crave for a smoked filled bar show , no screens no poles no turf just a small stage a couple of bars in the back and working bathrooms , fuck any stadium show I wouldn’t attend even if they played Citifield or Yankee stadium...this band lost its guts long time ago this is my own personal opinion.."A beacon on dry land"0
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Obstructed view would suck. Not sure how you can make an argument against this? I’ve been behind stage at arena shows and did not have a problem...but I knew I bought those tix, a pole in front of me without knowing ahead of time, would really lessen the experience.I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side06.27.98 Alpine Valley
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Get_Right said:$247 a pair. The location of seats was known since July. Fenway is famous for the poles. If you have a high 10C number you had to know that this was a possibility.
It shouldn't be a possibility for fan club people that's the issue. We pay a premium to be there and buy tickets blind, it's wrong that the fan club members suffer this way when general release tickets are in this case, better located and locations known in advance.Reading Festival 2006, London O2 2009, Leeds 2014, MK 2014, EV Solo London 1 2017, London 02 1 & 2 2018, Boston 1 & 2 2018.0 -
As a regular at Fenway for baseball games, I feel I'm pretty familiar with the seating and ticketing practices the Red Sox use. I believe that an obstruction warning is given for seats in which the view of the mound or batter is blocked by a pole. Another warning is is the seats are behind a walkway and there is foot traffic in view. (1st row or 2 of loges). That being said, no one should have had a ticket with an obstruction of the stage without being told first. There are sites that show obstruction lines from each seat in the park.0
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I'm sure it's been mentioned in this thread but I always tell people that if they go to a ticketed event and their is ANY sort of seat/view blockage they should immediately go to customer service and ask to be relocated.
Their are always seats set aside for this reason.0 -
dingers said:Get_Right said:$247 a pair. The location of seats was known since July. Fenway is famous for the poles. If you have a high 10C number you had to know that this was a possibility.
It shouldn't be a possibility for fan club people that's the issue. We pay a premium to be there and buy tickets blind, it's wrong that the fan club members suffer this way when general release tickets are in this case, better located and locations known in advance.
Just because you are in the fan club it does not mean that there is a no chance you could get stuck behind a pole at Fenway-same with Wrigley although I think there are fewer poles. 10C seats are not always the best in the house and they warned everyone that that seats would be spread all over the stadiums. Caveat emptor and if you checked your seats on seat geek or whatever, you would have known about the pole.Post edited by Get_Right on0 -
Poles can’t be moved but still wondering why nets couldn’t come down like at Safeco.1996 - Columbia, MD & Augusta, ME
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PJNB said:epie said:Poles can’t be moved but still wondering why nets couldn’t come down like at Safeco.
I was right by the dugout on the third base line at Fenway and the nets were noticeable when I first got there but didn't bother me at all during the show, probably much like it would be during a baseball game I assume. The only way they really still bother me is seeing them in some pictures I took, but I guess that's a mild complaint!0 -
pjl44 said:Big Bank Hank said:kst said:10c clearly disclosed seats may be far back or high up. That alone would be disappointing but not really something to complain about. On the other hand to my knowledge there was no disclosure about major obstructions such as the pole someone showed in a photo on this thread. In my opinion someone could legitimately have a complaint about that.
Personally my biggest complaint is they did not play Unthought Known either night. There's no way there are 60 better songs than that. I'm sorry but I never heard of Buffalo Tom. Did we really need two of that song or any of the other repeats and no UK. I mean seriously how does that happen? Shows were still good and knowing what I know now I would do it all again but that was a major omission. One fan's view.
Edit: Just re-read the original comment and that's pretty dick, too. You two deserve each other. I'm jumping on the positivity thread.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
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Get_Right said:dingers said:Get_Right said:$247 a pair. The location of seats was known since July. Fenway is famous for the poles. If you have a high 10C number you had to know that this was a possibility.
It shouldn't be a possibility for fan club people that's the issue. We pay a premium to be there and buy tickets blind, it's wrong that the fan club members suffer this way when general release tickets are in this case, better located and locations known in advance.
Just because you are in the fan club it does not mean that there is a no chance you could get stuck behind a pole at Fenway-same with Wrigley although I think there are fewer poles. 10C seats are not always the best in the house and they warned everyone that that seats would be spread all over the stadiums. Caveat emptor and if you checked your seats on seat geek or whatever, you would have known about the pole.
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Kevinman said:Obstructed view would suck. Not sure how you can make an argument against this? I’ve been behind stage at arena shows and did not have a problem...but I knew I bought those tix, a pole in front of me without knowing ahead of time, would really lessen the experience.Post edited by MisterEtake2 on0
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Has anyone complained to 10c and heard anything back?
I'd be curious. It is pretty standard to inform the ticket holder they have obstructed views before buying the ticket. Saying you may be far back and having an obstructed view are completely different things. I mean, I'd rather have a clean view from nose bleeds than site right behind the sound tent on the field.
Bad seats was fair game, obstructed view I think wasn't right, especially at $250 a pair.0
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