Obstructed view for 10C seats at Fenway
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I plan to write 10 Club. Our ticket did say “obstructed view” but I’d like to know WHY 10 club would allow a paying fan club member to get these shitty seats in the first place. Like we pay extra annual and we don’t get a choice of location. Why wouldn’t they just black out these obviously undesirable spots (not to mention, this was quite far from the stage. I could see the screens but barely see the band)Makes much more sense to live in the Present Tense.
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cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?UBC 92, Vancouver 93, Vancouver 98, Seattle 02, Vancouver 03, Vancouver 05, Gorge 06, Gorge 06,Seattle 09,Seattle 09, Vancouver09, Montreal 11, Toronto 11,Toronto 11, Vancouver 11,Vancouver 13, Seattle 130
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Horse2345 said:cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?
Makes much more sense to live in the Present Tense.
Shows: 05/30/03, 09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/24/05, 09/25/05, 07/22/06, 04/02/08 (EV solo), 08/08/09, 08/23/09, 08/24/09, 09/25/09, 09/21/11, 09/23/11, /9/30/12, 12/02/13... many more to come!0 -
cellophane_star said:Horse2345 said:cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?UBC 92, Vancouver 93, Vancouver 98, Seattle 02, Vancouver 03, Vancouver 05, Gorge 06, Gorge 06,Seattle 09,Seattle 09, Vancouver09, Montreal 11, Toronto 11,Toronto 11, Vancouver 11,Vancouver 13, Seattle 130
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similar seats to thevachon nt 1 only I'm standing and by the dugout. Halfway through the show though 10-15 more privileged folk walk from inside the dugout to the gates in front and block the screen as well.
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cellophane_star said:I plan to write 10 Club. Our ticket did say “obstructed view” but I’d like to know WHY 10 club would allow a paying fan club member to get these shitty seats in the first place. Like we pay extra annual and we don’t get a choice of location. Why wouldn’t they just black out these obviously undesirable spots (not to mention, this was quite far from the stage. I could see the screens but barely see the band)PJ:
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In the future, talk to the venue staff asap. The promoter is responsible for making sure that you can see from your purchased seat.
Local venue here has always LiveNation staff milling around, and offering people to switch seats if there's obstructions. For example, the Roger Waters show a couple of days ago had the screen going accross the floor blocking more views than expected. People got relocated to side-stage seats. I've had camera-cranes or speaker stacks blocking views even slightly and always got new seats or GA access due to that.
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Blame the shitty stadium design. Time they update Fenway0
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Horse2345 said:cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?
The announcement did say they would have some seats very far back, so that is fair. I don't think they warned anyone of abstructed views. That would suck, and is a fair complaint.
I actually really enjoyed the ballpark show, I'd love to do it again. But I can imagine a different experience if I had bad seats.0 -
Yes, I have only been a member a few years, but right behind a pole is obstructed view. There were plenty of obstructed view tickets available for $80 the day before the show. I had some nice production holds in my cart, but I had no idea I would be behind a pole, and would have eaten a full priced ticket anyways. Just disappointing0
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cellophane_star said:Let me preface this by saying we feel super fortunate to be seeing Pearl Jam in Boston. First show in 5 years and first even in this city. Not everyone is so lucky. And we will enjoy the show no matter what.
But really... THIS is a 10 Club seat? This is supposed to be one of best seats in the house?
20 years of 10C fees (in Canadian funds, no less). Feels like you could get better seats on general sale :(UBC 92, Vancouver 93, Vancouver 98, Seattle 02, Vancouver 03, Vancouver 05, Gorge 06, Gorge 06,Seattle 09,Seattle 09, Vancouver09, Montreal 11, Toronto 11,Toronto 11, Vancouver 11,Vancouver 13, Seattle 130 -
Redrumh2o said:Here are my 10C tickets not marked obsteucted......who can I complain to because I sure as hell am going to
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Horse2345 said:cellophane_star said:Let me preface this by saying we feel super fortunate to be seeing Pearl Jam in Boston. First show in 5 years and first even in this city. Not everyone is so lucky. And we will enjoy the show no matter what.
But really... THIS is a 10 Club seat? This is supposed to be one of best seats in the house?
20 years of 10C fees (in Canadian funds, no less). Feels like you could get better seats on general sale :(Makes much more sense to live in the Present Tense.
Shows: 05/30/03, 09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/24/05, 09/25/05, 07/22/06, 04/02/08 (EV solo), 08/08/09, 08/23/09, 08/24/09, 09/25/09, 09/21/11, 09/23/11, /9/30/12, 12/02/13... many more to come!0 -
eeriepadave said:Redrumh2o said:Here are my 10C tickets not marked obsteucted......who can I complain to because I sure as hell am going toMakes much more sense to live in the Present Tense.
Shows: 05/30/03, 09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/24/05, 09/25/05, 07/22/06, 04/02/08 (EV solo), 08/08/09, 08/23/09, 08/24/09, 09/25/09, 09/21/11, 09/23/11, /9/30/12, 12/02/13... many more to come!0 -
jervin007 said:cellophane_star said:I plan to write 10 Club. Our ticket did say “obstructed view” but I’d like to know WHY 10 club would allow a paying fan club member to get these shitty seats in the first place. Like we pay extra annual and we don’t get a choice of location. Why wouldn’t they just black out these obviously undesirable spots (not to mention, this was quite far from the stage. I could see the screens but barely see the band)Makes much more sense to live in the Present Tense.
Shows: 05/30/03, 09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/24/05, 09/25/05, 07/22/06, 04/02/08 (EV solo), 08/08/09, 08/23/09, 08/24/09, 09/25/09, 09/21/11, 09/23/11, /9/30/12, 12/02/13... many more to come!0 -
cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?
The lotto is random...essentially, the same as always. The system in 2010 (order each show via the shop) was essentially random and the postcard system in 2003 was random.
The seat assignment, which is what I think you're referring to, is based off 10C membership number, the same as always.
The random part, where everyone seems to have difficulty understanding, is that once the window closes and everyone has their priority picks locked and the drawing happens...that is random, but it's essentially the same as it always has been.Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 -
cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?
If I remember correctly, back then was seniority for tickets in general, no lottery.
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cellophane_star said:Horse2345 said:cellophane_star said:Let me preface this by saying we feel super fortunate to be seeing Pearl Jam in Boston. First show in 5 years and first even in this city. Not everyone is so lucky. And we will enjoy the show no matter what.
But really... THIS is a 10 Club seat? This is supposed to be one of best seats in the house?
20 years of 10C fees (in Canadian funds, no less). Feels like you could get better seats on general sale :(
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Kevinman said:cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?
If I remember correctly, back then was seniority for tickets in general, no lottery.0 -
cellophane_star said:Horse2345 said:cellophane_star said:Let me preface this by saying we feel super fortunate to be seeing Pearl Jam in Boston. First show in 5 years and first even in this city. Not everyone is so lucky. And we will enjoy the show no matter what.
But really... THIS is a 10 Club seat? This is supposed to be one of best seats in the house?
20 years of 10C fees (in Canadian funds, no less). Feels like you could get better seats on general sale :(UBC 92, Vancouver 93, Vancouver 98, Seattle 02, Vancouver 03, Vancouver 05, Gorge 06, Gorge 06,Seattle 09,Seattle 09, Vancouver09, Montreal 11, Toronto 11,Toronto 11, Vancouver 11,Vancouver 13, Seattle 130 -
CopperTom said:Kevinman said:cellophane_star said:Kevinman said:whofeelslikeadrank said:in what year did your 10c membership lapse?
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I've been thinking about this since the tickets were sent out. I think the 10 Club did what they could to get as many seats as possible. The issue is that Fenway has other groups who also need seats, like Red Sox season ticket holders and major sponsors. The Sox are not about to piss them off by giving them the obstructed view seats while the Ten Club takes all of the turf and field boxes. I also don't know that it's feasible (or even possible) for the Ten Club to sort through each section and make sure they're not giving anyone these seats. I would imagine it's pretty much automated.And then there's the whole argument over what is a good seat and what isn't. I feel like even in regularly-shaped arenas, there is disagreement over what's a good seat, so, in a place like Fenway, with its irregularities and angles? Is just being closer better? You might be closer, but have a shit angle. Or, there might be a pole in front of you. Or, you might be at field level, and essentially at the back of the turf. You might be further away, but have a better sight line for the screens, if not the stage.I'm not saying any of you sitting behind poles should not be upset - just trying to give the 10C the benefit of the doubt that they might not have had many options."I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
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mpedone said:I've been thinking about this since the tickets were sent out. I think the 10 Club did what they could to get as many seats as possible. The issue is that Fenway has other groups who also need seats, like Red Sox season ticket holders and major sponsors. The Sox are not about to piss them off by giving them the obstructed view seats while the Ten Club takes all of the turf and field boxes. I also don't know that it's feasible (or even possible) for the Ten Club to sort through each section and make sure they're not giving anyone these seats. I would imagine it's pretty much automated.And then there's the whole argument over what is a good seat and what isn't. I feel like even in regularly-shaped arenas, there is disagreement over what's a good seat, so, in a place like Fenway, with its irregularities and angles? Is just being closer better? You might be closer, but have a shit angle. Or, there might be a pole in front of you. Or, you might be at field level, and essentially at the back of the turf. You might be further away, but have a better sight line for the screens, if not the stage.I'm not saying any of you sitting behind poles should not be upset - just trying to give the 10C the benefit of the doubt that they might not have had many options.0
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess most people would consider having a pole in your face all night is not a "good seat".
Season ticket holders get a presale option to purchase tix. 10C has the option to not sell garbage. Period. Personally, I'm not happy to "just be in the building" spending over $100/ticket for something that doesn't allow you to see and have horrible sound quality. You could sit out on Landsdowne Street and watch a Periscope feed and get that wonderful experience for nothing.
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I was in F75 for N2, row D at Fenway and got to watch the show through a big net. I would have been fine with these seats if not for that. In Seattle, all the nets were down but not in Boston. I would think that 10c would investigate something like this prior to assigning our seats to see whether or not the ballpark can take the nets down (would love an explanation as to why this could happen at Seattle but not Fenway) . Hopefully some lessons learned for the next time they come back to Fenway.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess most people would consider having a pole in your face all night is not a "good seat".
Season ticket holders get a presale option to purchase tix. 10C has the option to not sell garbage. Period. Personally, I'm not happy to "just be in the building" spending over $100/ticket for something that doesn't allow you to see and have horrible sound quality. You could sit out on Landsdowne Street and watch a Periscope feed and get that wonderful experience for nothing.
I think part of the issue was they weren't clear that some eats may be obstructed views. And when they said they got some seats farther back than ever before to accommodate more fans, I guess many didn't expect it to be as bad as it was.
I think it is a pretty safe assumption that they don't have rights to all field or good seats, otherwise they would. They tried to meet the higher demand and it didn't work for everyone. I'm guessing if they do this again many fans with high numbers won't put in for tickets and just gamble with what they get in the public sale.
Many fans didn't realize how far back they meant, and they did not say anything about obstructed views. I would be very upset if I had an obstructed view, but just plain bad seats (far back) I dont think anyone should complain about.0 -
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