Black voter support for Trump

flywallyfly

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Go Beavers

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Rasmussen polling isn’t valid. And gallup is definitely not out of the game, as they claim. trump’s approval is at 39%, so it’s dropping overall.  

rgambs

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Serious question:
Are you in the eighth grade?

flywallyfly

rgambs said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Serious question:
Are you in the eighth grade?

Typical deflective response. 

flywallyfly

Go Beavers said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Rasmussen polling isn’t valid. And gallup is definitely not out of the game, as they claim. trump’s approval is at 39%, so it’s dropping overall.  

Sure, pick and choose the poll that coincides with what you want to believe. 

flywallyfly

2 years of non stop media bashing Trump as a racist yet his approval rating among the black and hispanic communities continues to climb. I'm guessing people see right through the bullshit (except for the echo chamber on this forum, of course). 

Spiritual_Chaos

flywallyfly said:

2 years of non stop media bashing Trump as a racist yet his approval rating among the black and hispanic communities continues to climb. I'm guessing people see right through the bullshit (except for the echo chamber on this forum, of course). 

rgambs

flywallyfly said:

rgambs said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Serious question:
Are you in the eighth grade?

Typical deflective response. 

Not deflective, just disrespectful.
Ask middle school questions, get middle school answers.

josevolution

Yeah I can see why the support has risen amongs blacks & Hispanics , the shootings of unarmed blacks has stopped the random traffic stops have decreased dramatically, the kidnapping of migrant Spanish children never happened so yeah I can see the Spanish community rallying behind this turd ...

Go Beavers

flywallyfly said:

Go Beavers said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Rasmussen polling isn’t valid. And gallup is definitely not out of the game, as they claim. trump’s approval is at 39%, so it’s dropping overall.  

Sure, pick and choose the poll that coincides with what you want to believe. 

That’s what you just did. You have to pick polls that do the research correctly. Rasmussen does not. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Go Beavers said:

flywallyfly said:

Go Beavers said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Rasmussen polling isn’t valid. And gallup is definitely not out of the game, as they claim. trump’s approval is at 39%, so it’s dropping overall.  

Sure, pick and choose the poll that coincides with what you want to believe. 

That’s what you just did. You have to pick polls that do the research correctly. Rasmussen does not. 

mrussel1

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

You’re funny

mrussel1

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

You’re funny

I'm assuming the positive for the moment...  While right wing news has picked this up, it's interesting that Rasmussen themselves isn't even touting it in their summary.  That tells me it's in the internals of the polls (which you need to be platinum to read), but probably an anomaly and they know it.  
But hey, who needs critical thinking, right?

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

You’re funny

I'm assuming the positive for the moment...  While right wing news has picked this up, it's interesting that Rasmussen themselves isn't even touting it in their summary.  That tells me it's in the internals of the polls (which you need to be platinum to read), but probably an anomaly and they know it.  
But hey, who needs critical thinking, right?

Or facts. Or reality. Or truth.

JC29856

mrussel1 said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

All good questions, here's another: Did Rasmussen use the same methodology in conducting this latest poll as they did a year ago when the number was 19%?

my2hands

mrussel1 said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

Where did Wally fly off to?

Go Beavers

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

All good questions, here's another: Did Rasmussen use the same methodology in conducting this latest poll as they did a year ago when the number was 19%?

If the methodology isn’t reliable, then it doesn’t matter what the past number was. It’s not a valid poll. 

dignin

No, one-third of African Americans don’t support Trump. Not even close.

For example, Gallup has interviewed thousands of African American respondents in 2018. Its polling suggests that Trump’s black approval rating has consistently been around 10 to 15 percent through 2018.

The same is true in polling by Ipsos/Reuters:

Similarly, the polling firm Civiqs, which has interviewed more than 140,000 respondents in 2017 and 2018 suggests that Trump’s black approval rating has consistently been in the single-digits throughout his presidency:

Similarly, Trump’s average approval rating among African American respondents in seven YouGov/Economist surveys conducted in July and August was 13 percent. His average approval rating among African Americans in four Quinnipiac University surveys conducted over the past two months was just 9 percent.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/08/17/no-one-third-of-african-americans-dont-support-trump-not-even-close/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.b7ea6a20b97d

rgambs

Damn facts, always getting in the way.

Halifax2TheMax

rgambs said:

Damn facts, always getting in the way.

Alternative facts, at that.

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

flywallyfly said:

If Trump is so racist then why are black voter number in support of Trump continuing to go up? Weird. Approval rate for Trump among black voters is up to 36% (from 19% on this day last year). 

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_aug15

Hey I'm just curious about where in that link does it say that black approval rating is at 36% on the daily tracking poll.  I read the link, don't see it.  It's important because Rasmussen only surveys 500 people a day, on a rolling three day basis.  It's important to understand the MOE specific to blacks in the polls.  How many did the pollsters talk to?  It could have been very low and therefore a statistical anomaly.  Since you are posting this, I'm sure you read through the details.  Help a brother out.  

All good questions, here's another: Did Rasmussen use the same methodology in conducting this latest poll as they did a year ago when the number was 19%?

My question wasn't about method,  it was about whether this was a short term anomaly. Remember it's a three day tracking poll,  and we don't know the statistical size of the black sample. 

blackhawks

So....we now care what color likes who now?  We have stooped that low?

Bentleyspop

rgambs said:

Damn facts, always getting in the way.

As I said before it is well known that facts have a liberal bias

josevolution

blackhawks said:

So....we now care what color likes who now?  We have stooped that low?

No we care about all colors to be treated equal...

mrussel1

blackhawks said:

So....we now care what color likes who now?  We have stooped that low?

Yeah, next thing you know,  we'll care that women think.  It's crazy. 

Spiritual_Chaos

blackhawks said:

So....we now care what color likes who now?  We have stooped that low?

What's low about it?

mcgruff10

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/18/politics/poll-of-the-week-trump-black-voters/index.html

First things first: The theme song of the week is Gathering Crowds, by John Scott from the television show "This Week In Baseball."

Poll of the week: A new Quinnipiac University poll finds that President Donald Trump's approval rating is 41%, with a disapproval rating of 54%. That's largely consistent with live-interview national polling taken the last few months.

When you break it down by race, Trump's approval rating is 9% among black voters. His disapproval rating is 85% among them. 

What's the point: There is another poll out in which more than 30% of black voters supposedly approve of Trump's job performance. Trump's biggest fans have trumpeted this poll as a sign that he is breaking through with African-Americans. The problem is the poll is almost certainly incorrect. 

Polls of higher quality such as Quinnipiac's -- probability-based polls that are transparent about their data -- have consistently found Trump's approval rating to be much lower. The President's approval rating in these polls completed since July has averaged 12% with African-Americans. His disapproval rating has averaged 84%. 

Here's the thing though: It does actually seem that Trump has gained support among African-Americans since the 2016 election. 

The network exit polls had Trump winning only 8% among black voters in 2016. Hillary Clinton took 89% of their vote. That is, Clinton won black voters by an 81-percentage-point margin.

Trump's average net approval rating (approval rating minus disapproval rating) with blacks right now is -72 points. In other words, he's shrunk his deficit by 9 points.

I would argue, though, that the President has made an even bigger improvement. To make an apples-to-apples comparison, we can look at a post-election Pew Research Center study with verified voters. Pew found that Clinton had an even larger margin 85-point margin with black voters, of 91% to 6%. If this study were correct, it would mean that Trump had doubled his black support since the election. (Note: Trump's approval rating with blacks in a Pew poll in June, not included in our average, was 14%. Again, this suggests he has gained since the election.) 

Even with averaging, the African-American subsample in these polls is small enough that our current estimate of Trump's approval rating comes with a fairly wide margin of error. That's why I decided to look at the President's average approval rating since April in Gallup's tracking poll. Doing so gives us a total sample of about 2,500 black respondents, a fairly robust sample size. 

In this Gallup data since April, Trump's approval rating has averaged 13%. His disapproval rating has averaged 84%. Both of which are slightly better for Trump than our average since July. 

What's interesting is that when you compare Trump's approval rating in Gallup polling with the percentage of the vote he got against Clinton in every other ethnic or racial group, Trump is doing worse now than he did back in 2016. 

Is it possible that these high-quality pollsters are simply missing black respondents who dislike Trump? Sure. That, though, is a theory without any evidence that I know of. 

Could it be that some African-Americans are saying they approve of the President but they won't end up voting Republican in an election? Of course. Additionally, many black voters undecided on Trump may go with the Democrats in the end. That said, there doesn't seem to be any sign of that in polling from Marist College, Quinnipiac, Pew or the The Washington Post. The Democratic margin on the generic congressional ballot with black voters isn't any greater in these polls than Trump's net approval rating among them would imply. 

It just seems that for whatever reason the President has picked up a small, but statistically significant, amount of support among African-Americans. The fact that he has done so while losing support among all other racial groups makes it that much more impressive. 

It's not clear that this shift in sentiment will make much of a difference in 2018. Democrats still hold a sizable lead on the generic congressional ballot. A lead large enough that they should win control of the House, if everything holds through November. 

Still, the importance of even a slight shift in African-American voter sentiment shouldn't be underestimated. They make up greater than 10% of the US electorate, and more in key swing states like Florida, Michigan and Virginia. 

If you were to apply the changes we see in Trump's approval rating among blacks compared with his vote share in 2016 and all other groups voted the same, it would mean a shift in the national margin of about 1 percentage point toward him. In these swing states mentioned, it could be even greater.

One point may not seem like a lot, but remember that's half of Clinton's national margin in 2016. George W. Bush was able to win 2004 in part because he made a small gain among black voters similar to that Trump seems to have made since his own election. 

If Trump is able to hold on to his additional African-American support, it could aid him in 2020.

brianlux

Jesus Christ, how much are they paying these people to say these things?  I don't know any black or Hispanics who approve of Trump.  Not one.

mcgruff10

brianlux said:

Jesus Christ, how much are they paying these people to say these things?  I don't know any black or Hispanics who approve of Trump.  Not one.

It is crazy that his approval rating is going up amongst blacks.  I don't get what they see in him. 

brianlux

mcgruff10 said:

brianlux said:

Jesus Christ, how much are they paying these people to say these things?  I don't know any black or Hispanics who approve of Trump.  Not one.

It is crazy that his approval rating is going up amongst blacks.  I don't get what they see in him. 

Well, lets face it, there are stupid people of all sorts.  I suppose some people might be afraid to say there are dumb blacks or Hispanics or Indians, but it's not racist to say there are.  Dumb people come in all colors, shapes and sizes!  And I would say that people of color who support a racists are particularly stupid. I know it sounds bad for me to say that but that's how I see it.

Could it be that there is a correlation with this and how some abused women stay with the men who beat them?  Sad, isn't it?

But on the flip side, most people of color don't support Trump.  The majority of Americans don't support Trump.  At his highest level of approval he is still the worst president this country has ever had.  I would say that is far more telling than any other statistic that is getting put out there.