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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,758
    She's  awesome 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    She is Hispanic and a proclaimed Democratic Socialist.  She's young and fired up.

    I will be watching more of her considering she is in my state.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    Does "democratic socialist" means the same as the european "Social democrat"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

    ?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487


    Funny how her Socialist views were not the same when she ran a business.  An opportunist that further moves the DNC to the radical far left.  This is good for the country, it'll energize the right.  Socialism is cancer.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    edited July 2018
    unsung said:


    Funny how her Socialist views were not the same when she ran a business.  An opportunist that further moves the DNC to the radical far left.  This is good for the country, it'll energize the right.  Socialism is cancer.
    You know nothing of what you're talking about.

    Pretty much every western democracy that is infused with ideas stemming from socialism are run better than your cancer-ridden-country.

    Just look at the countries in Scandinavia. 

    Ignorant little cutiepie. Now go sing your little anthem with your hand on your heart.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,078
    unsung said:


    Funny how her Socialist views were not the same when she ran a business.  An opportunist that further moves the DNC to the radical far left.  This is good for the country, it'll energize the right.  Socialism is cancer.
    Be afraid! 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,228
    unsung said:


    Funny how her Socialist views were not the same when she ran a business.  An opportunist that further moves the DNC to the radical far left.  This is good for the country, it'll energize the right.  Socialism is cancer.
    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. 
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    unsung said:


    Funny how her Socialist views were not the same when she ran a business.  An opportunist that further moves the DNC to the radical far left.  This is good for the country, it'll energize the right.  Socialism is cancer.
    funny how a meme turns into misleading propaganda
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,758
    People love her so much she won in another district as well....


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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    I'd be concerned if I were a democrat. Nothing against her, but Tom Perez (the chair of the DNC) said that she's the future of the party. In other words, the leaders democratic party seem to be moving more and more left. That might not bode well in general elections.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Does "democratic socialist" means the same as the european "Social democrat"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

    ?

    No, if you click that link you posted, you'll see that it says at the top that it's "not to be confused with democratic socialism."
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Does "democratic socialist" means the same as the european "Social democrat"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

    ?

    No, if you click that link you posted, you'll see that it says at the top that it's "not to be confused with democratic socialism."
    Haha. I'll be damned.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,807
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    Interesting assessment. Have you ever spoken in public in front of a crowd of people? An inexperienced public speaker often starts out using note cards because nerves, stage fright and random brain melt will make you forget something important. Maybe too much Trumpish has poisoned your view of how someone should gather thoughts and speak.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Opportunist to get a $174k job.

    Wool over eyes.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/ocasio-cortez-tax-cuts-business/
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    tbergs said:
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    Interesting assessment. Have you ever spoken in public in front of a crowd of people? An inexperienced public speaker often starts out using note cards because nerves, stage fright and random brain melt will make you forget something important. Maybe too much Trumpish has poisoned your view of how someone should gather thoughts and speak.
    Actually, I speak in front of groups of people on a regular basis and have no problem communicating whatever topic I'm discussing. As I said -- she needs to LEARN her talking points. Not sure how "Trumpish" figures into this at all but I am aware of Trump Derangement Syndrome that makes certain liberals blame everything under the sun on Trump. There is a cure. 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Does "democratic socialist" means the same as the european "Social democrat"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

    ?
    Liberals in the good ol USA are more conservative than conservatives in most other countries...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    unsung said:
    Opportunist to get a $174k job.

    Wool over eyes.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/ocasio-cortez-tax-cuts-business/
    Says the guy who loves Team Trump Treason’s swamp filling. Gee, have you ever criticized any of Team Trump Treason’s family or appointees? Yet a woman wins a primary and may win a general and thus be accountable to the people and it’s faux outrage from you. Too bad you don’t have the balls to run for that $174K job, huh?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,807
    flywallyfly said:
    tbergs said:
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    Interesting assessment. Have you ever spoken in public in front of a crowd of people? An inexperienced public speaker often starts out using note cards because nerves, stage fright and random brain melt will make you forget something important. Maybe too much Trumpish has poisoned your view of how someone should gather thoughts and speak.
    Actually, I speak in front of groups of people on a regular basis and have no problem communicating whatever topic I'm discussing. As I said -- she needs to LEARN her talking points. Not sure how "Trumpish" figures into this at all but I am aware of Trump Derangement Syndrome that makes certain liberals blame everything under the sun on Trump. There is a cure. 
    Good for you. I bet it has gotten a lot easier over time with experience and you have needed less and less cues because of repetition. Maybe next time I go to my son's tee ball game I can complain about how they just need to hit the damn ball and get rid of that tee. They must not really want to play baseball.

    I referenced Trump because he is a prime example of someone who should have prompts and notes because of the nonsensical communication method and is someone we see speak every damn day. It's one thing to just say that it's distracting that she uses notes, but shows your complete bias when you reference that it means she doesn't really believe what she spews out her piehole. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,078
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    Looks like you have your right winger talking points down pat. 
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited July 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:89
    unsung said:
    Opportunist to get a $174k job.

    Wool over eyes.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/ocasio-cortez-tax-cuts-business/
    Says the guy who loves Team Trump Treason’s swamp filling. Gee, have you ever criticized any of Team Trump Treason’s family or appointees? Yet a woman wins a primary and may win a general and thus be accountable to the people and it’s faux outrage from you. Too bad you don’t have the balls to run for that $174K job, huh?
    Why would I take a pay cut?

    Nothing to say about her philosophical change though, huh?
    Post edited by unsung on
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,078
    edited July 2018
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:89
    unsung said:
    Opportunist to get a $174k job.

    Wool over eyes.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/ocasio-cortez-tax-cuts-business/
    Says the guy who loves Team Trump Treason’s swamp filling. Gee, have you ever criticized any of Team Trump Treason’s family or appointees? Yet a woman wins a primary and may win a general and thus be accountable to the people and it’s faux outrage from you. Too bad you don’t have the balls to run for that $174K job, huh?
    Why would I take a pay cut?

    Nothing to say about her philosophical change though, huh?
    Did she change her thoughts on tax cuts for start up businesses? 
    Post edited by Go Beavers on
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    LETS ATTACK HER FOR LOOKING AT HER NOTES WHILE WE’RE STANDING HERE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    LETS ATTACK HER FOR LOOKING AT HER NOTES WHILE WE’RE STANDING HERE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY. 
    Or she could be like Candace Owens.  No notes, no brain.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    Yes, the US does such a great job of teaching men, women and symbols to “fish”. That’s why you don’t have any problems with poverty, poor health outcomes, or homelessness. 
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:89
    unsung said:
    Opportunist to get a $174k job.

    Wool over eyes.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/ocasio-cortez-tax-cuts-business/
    Says the guy who loves Team Trump Treason’s swamp filling. Gee, have you ever criticized any of Team Trump Treason’s family or appointees? Yet a woman wins a primary and may win a general and thus be accountable to the people and it’s faux outrage from you. Too bad you don’t have the balls to run for that $174K job, huh?

    Nothing to say about her philosophical change though, huh?
    Says the guy who was a Clinton supporter/voter 20 years ago.... you're pure though, right?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:89
    unsung said:
    Opportunist to get a $174k job.

    Wool over eyes.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/ocasio-cortez-tax-cuts-business/
    Says the guy who loves Team Trump Treason’s swamp filling. Gee, have you ever criticized any of Team Trump Treason’s family or appointees? Yet a woman wins a primary and may win a general and thus be accountable to the people and it’s faux outrage from you. Too bad you don’t have the balls to run for that $174K job, huh?
    Why would I take a pay cut?

    Nothing to say about her philosophical change though, huh?
    Because you could draft a bill that eliminates all taxes on those earning more than $174K a year and take home more than you do now. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,501
    flywallyfly said:
    tbergs said:
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    Interesting assessment. Have you ever spoken in public in front of a crowd of people? An inexperienced public speaker often starts out using note cards because nerves, stage fright and random brain melt will make you forget something important. Maybe too much Trumpish has poisoned your view of how someone should gather thoughts and speak.
    Actually, I speak in front of groups of people on a regular basis and have no problem communicating whatever topic I'm discussing. As I said -- she needs to LEARN her talking points. Not sure how "Trumpish" figures into this at all but I am aware of Trump Derangement Syndrome that makes certain liberals blame everything under the sun on Trump. There is a cure. 
    You a public speaker lol ok hey since you pay attention to Baffoon how many lies did he spew this morning 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    josevolution said:
    flywallyfly said:
    tbergs said:
    flywallyfly said:
    Give a man (woman, symbol) a fish they will be fed for the day....teach a man (woman, symbol) to fish they will be fed for a lifetime....give a man (woman,symbol) someone else"s fish they will vote for these idiots for life. 

    On a side note, she needs to learn her talking points rather than continually looking at her notes. Very distracting and shows she doesnt really believe what she spews out her piehole.
    Interesting assessment. Have you ever spoken in public in front of a crowd of people? An inexperienced public speaker often starts out using note cards because nerves, stage fright and random brain melt will make you forget something important. Maybe too much Trumpish has poisoned your view of how someone should gather thoughts and speak.
    Actually, I speak in front of groups of people on a regular basis and have no problem communicating whatever topic I'm discussing. As I said -- she needs to LEARN her talking points. Not sure how "Trumpish" figures into this at all but I am aware of Trump Derangement Syndrome that makes certain liberals blame everything under the sun on Trump. There is a cure. 
    You a public speaker lol ok hey since you pay attention to Baffoon how many lies did he spew this morning 
    Still as fiery as ever! Welcome back Jose!
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